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* [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
@ 2017-10-26 15:25 Olaf Hering
  2017-10-26 15:45 ` Andrew Cooper
  2017-10-27 13:58 ` Wei Liu
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Olaf Hering @ 2017-10-26 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel, Ian Jackson, Wei Liu; +Cc: Olaf Hering, Vasilis Liaskovitis

An upcoming change in systemd will mount xenfs right away, along with
all other system mounts. This improves the detection of the
virtualization environment, which is currently racy. Some parts of
systemd rely on the presence of /proc/xen/capabilities, which will only
exist if xenfs is mounted. Since xenfs is mounted by the proc-xen.mount
unit, it will be processed very late. Other units may be processed
earlier, and if they make use of ConditionVirtualization*= failures may
occour.

Unfortunately mounting xenfs by systemd as an API filesystem will lead
to errors when proc-xen.mount is processed. Since that mount point
already exists the unit is considered as failed, and other units that
depend on proc-xen.mount will not start. To avoid this the existing
proc-xen.mount will be converted into proc-xen.service, which just
mounts xenfs manually. All dependencies are updated by this change.

The existing conditionals in proc-xen.mount will prevent failures with
existing systemd based installations:
ConditionPathExists=!/proc/xen/capabilities will prevent execution with
a new systemd that mounts xenfs. And this conditional, in combination
with ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen, will trigger execution with an old
systemd.

An absolute path to the mount binary has to be used. /bin/mount is
expected to be universally available, nowaways it is a symlink to
/usr/bin/mount.

Signed-off-by: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>
---

based on 4.10.0-rc2
Please run autogen.sh:

 tools/configure.ac                                                | 2 +-
 tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/Makefile                              | 6 +++---
 .../Linux/systemd/{proc-xen.mount.in => proc-xen.service.in}      | 8 ++++----
 tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/var-lib-xenstored.mount.in            | 4 ++--
 tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-init-dom0.service.in              | 4 ++--
 tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-qemu-dom0-disk-backend.service.in | 4 ++--
 tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-watchdog.service.in               | 4 ++--
 tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xenconsoled.service.in                | 4 ++--
 tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xendomains.service.in                 | 4 ++--
 tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xendriverdomain.service.in            | 4 ++--
 tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xenstored.service.in                  | 6 +++---
 11 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-)
 rename tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/{proc-xen.mount.in => proc-xen.service.in} (60%)

diff --git a/tools/configure.ac b/tools/configure.ac
index d1a3a78d87..7b18421fa0 100644
--- a/tools/configure.ac
+++ b/tools/configure.ac
@@ -441,7 +441,7 @@ AX_AVAILABLE_SYSTEMD()
 
 AS_IF([test "x$systemd" = "xy"], [
     AC_CONFIG_FILES([
-    hotplug/Linux/systemd/proc-xen.mount
+    hotplug/Linux/systemd/proc-xen.service
     hotplug/Linux/systemd/var-lib-xenstored.mount
     hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-init-dom0.service
     hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-qemu-dom0-disk-backend.service
diff --git a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/Makefile b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/Makefile
index a5d41d86ef..855ff3747f 100644
--- a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/Makefile
+++ b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/Makefile
@@ -3,10 +3,10 @@ include $(XEN_ROOT)/tools/Rules.mk
 
 XEN_SYSTEMD_MODULES = xen.conf
 
-XEN_SYSTEMD_MOUNT =  proc-xen.mount
-XEN_SYSTEMD_MOUNT += var-lib-xenstored.mount
+XEN_SYSTEMD_MOUNT  = var-lib-xenstored.mount
 
-XEN_SYSTEMD_SERVICE  = xenstored.service
+XEN_SYSTEMD_SERVICE  = proc-xen.service
+XEN_SYSTEMD_SERVICE += xenstored.service
 XEN_SYSTEMD_SERVICE += xenconsoled.service
 XEN_SYSTEMD_SERVICE += xen-qemu-dom0-disk-backend.service
 XEN_SYSTEMD_SERVICE += xendomains.service
diff --git a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/proc-xen.mount.in b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/proc-xen.service.in
similarity index 60%
rename from tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/proc-xen.mount.in
rename to tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/proc-xen.service.in
index 64ebe7f9b1..76f0097b75 100644
--- a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/proc-xen.mount.in
+++ b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/proc-xen.service.in
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen
 ConditionPathExists=!/proc/xen/capabilities
 RefuseManualStop=true
 
-[Mount]
-What=xenfs
-Where=/proc/xen
-Type=xenfs
+[Service]
+Type=oneshot
+RemainAfterExit=true
+ExecStart=/bin/mount -t xenfs xenfs /proc/xen
diff --git a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/var-lib-xenstored.mount.in b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/var-lib-xenstored.mount.in
index 11a7d50edc..5d171f82e8 100644
--- a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/var-lib-xenstored.mount.in
+++ b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/var-lib-xenstored.mount.in
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 [Unit]
 Description=mount xenstore file system
-Requires=proc-xen.mount
-After=proc-xen.mount
+Requires=proc-xen.service
+After=proc-xen.service
 ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen/capabilities
 RefuseManualStop=true
 
diff --git a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-init-dom0.service.in b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-init-dom0.service.in
index 3befadcea3..c560fbe1b7 100644
--- a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-init-dom0.service.in
+++ b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-init-dom0.service.in
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 [Unit]
 Description=xen-init-dom0, initialise Dom0 configuration (xenstore nodes, JSON configuration stub)
-Requires=xenstored.service proc-xen.mount
-After=xenstored.service proc-xen.mount
+Requires=xenstored.service proc-xen.service
+After=xenstored.service proc-xen.service
 ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen/capabilities
 
 [Service]
diff --git a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-qemu-dom0-disk-backend.service.in b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-qemu-dom0-disk-backend.service.in
index f56775bc87..1b95104823 100644
--- a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-qemu-dom0-disk-backend.service.in
+++ b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-qemu-dom0-disk-backend.service.in
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 [Unit]
 Description=qemu for xen dom0 disk backend
-Requires=proc-xen.mount xenstored.service
-After=proc-xen.mount xenstored.service xenconsoled.service
+Requires=proc-xen.service xenstored.service
+After=proc-xen.service xenstored.service xenconsoled.service
 Before=xendomains.service libvirtd.service libvirt-guests.service
 RefuseManualStop=true
 ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen/capabilities
diff --git a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-watchdog.service.in b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-watchdog.service.in
index 1eecd2a616..3b9aff5e3b 100644
--- a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-watchdog.service.in
+++ b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xen-watchdog.service.in
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 [Unit]
 Description=Xen-watchdog - run xen watchdog daemon
-Requires=proc-xen.mount
-After=proc-xen.mount xendomains.service
+Requires=proc-xen.service
+After=proc-xen.service xendomains.service
 ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen/capabilities
 
 [Service]
diff --git a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xenconsoled.service.in b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xenconsoled.service.in
index 8e333b114e..2a01262ecd 100644
--- a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xenconsoled.service.in
+++ b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xenconsoled.service.in
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 [Unit]
 Description=Xenconsoled - handles logging from guest consoles and hypervisor
-Requires=proc-xen.mount xenstored.service
-After=proc-xen.mount xenstored.service
+Requires=proc-xen.service xenstored.service
+After=proc-xen.service xenstored.service
 ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen/capabilities
 
 [Service]
diff --git a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xendomains.service.in b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xendomains.service.in
index c7bfb61eb4..f89460da35 100644
--- a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xendomains.service.in
+++ b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xendomains.service.in
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 [Unit]
 Description=Xendomains - start and stop guests on boot and shutdown
-Requires=proc-xen.mount xenstored.service
-After=proc-xen.mount xenstored.service xenconsoled.service xen-init-dom0.service
+Requires=proc-xen.service xenstored.service
+After=proc-xen.service xenstored.service xenconsoled.service xen-init-dom0.service
 After=network-online.target
 After=remote-fs.target
 ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen/capabilities
diff --git a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xendriverdomain.service.in b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xendriverdomain.service.in
index c39ec04182..c3b0a32147 100644
--- a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xendriverdomain.service.in
+++ b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xendriverdomain.service.in
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 [Unit]
 Description=Xen driver domain device daemon
-Requires=proc-xen.mount
-After=proc-xen.mount
+Requires=proc-xen.service
+After=proc-xen.service
 ConditionVirtualization=xen
 
 [Service]
diff --git a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xenstored.service.in b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xenstored.service.in
index 80c1d408a5..da1f197d11 100644
--- a/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xenstored.service.in
+++ b/tools/hotplug/Linux/systemd/xenstored.service.in
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 [Unit]
 Description=The Xen xenstore
-Requires=proc-xen.mount var-lib-xenstored.mount
-After=proc-xen.mount var-lib-xenstored.mount
+Requires=proc-xen.service var-lib-xenstored.mount
+After=proc-xen.service var-lib-xenstored.mount
 Before=libvirtd.service libvirt-guests.service
 RefuseManualStop=true
 ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen/capabilities
@@ -15,5 +15,5 @@ ExecStart=@XEN_SCRIPT_DIR@/launch-xenstore
 
 [Install]
 WantedBy=multi-user.target
-Also=proc-xen.mount
+Also=proc-xen.service
 Also=var-lib-xenstored.mount

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* Re: [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
  2017-10-26 15:25 [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service Olaf Hering
@ 2017-10-26 15:45 ` Andrew Cooper
  2017-10-26 15:59   ` Olaf Hering
  2017-10-30 10:08   ` Wei Liu
  2017-10-27 13:58 ` Wei Liu
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Cooper @ 2017-10-26 15:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Olaf Hering, xen-devel, Ian Jackson, Wei Liu; +Cc: Vasilis Liaskovitis

On 26/10/17 16:25, Olaf Hering wrote:
> An upcoming change in systemd will mount xenfs right away, along with
> all other system mounts. This improves the detection of the
> virtualization environment, which is currently racy. Some parts of
> systemd rely on the presence of /proc/xen/capabilities, which will only
> exist if xenfs is mounted. Since xenfs is mounted by the proc-xen.mount
> unit, it will be processed very late. Other units may be processed
> earlier, and if they make use of ConditionVirtualization*= failures may
> occour.
>
> Unfortunately mounting xenfs by systemd as an API filesystem will lead
> to errors when proc-xen.mount is processed. Since that mount point
> already exists the unit is considered as failed, and other units that
> depend on proc-xen.mount will not start. To avoid this the existing
> proc-xen.mount will be converted into proc-xen.service, which just
> mounts xenfs manually. All dependencies are updated by this change.
>
> The existing conditionals in proc-xen.mount will prevent failures with
> existing systemd based installations:
> ConditionPathExists=!/proc/xen/capabilities will prevent execution with
> a new systemd that mounts xenfs. And this conditional, in combination
> with ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen, will trigger execution with an old
> systemd.
>
> An absolute path to the mount binary has to be used. /bin/mount is
> expected to be universally available, nowaways it is a symlink to
> /usr/bin/mount.
>
> Signed-off-by: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>

Can't all information be obtained from /sys/hypervisor?  If not, how
hard would it be to make happen?

What happens to all the software which currently has a dependency on
proc-xen.mount ?

Independently, how does this interact with having a xenfs entries in
/etc/fstab, which might plausibly still exist for compatibility with
other init systems?

~Andrew

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* Re: [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
  2017-10-26 15:45 ` Andrew Cooper
@ 2017-10-26 15:59   ` Olaf Hering
  2017-10-26 16:14     ` Andrew Cooper
  2017-10-30 10:08   ` Wei Liu
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Olaf Hering @ 2017-10-26 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Cooper; +Cc: Wei Liu, Ian Jackson, Vasilis Liaskovitis, xen-devel


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On Thu, Oct 26, Andrew Cooper wrote:

> Can't all information be obtained from /sys/hypervisor?  If not, how
> hard would it be to make happen?

Likely not that hard. Not sure why that was not added in the first place.

> What happens to all the software which currently has a dependency on
> proc-xen.mount ?

All software gets converted by this change.

> Independently, how does this interact with having a xenfs entries in
> /etc/fstab, which might plausibly still exist for compatibility with
> other init systems?

mount(1) will continue to consider them.


Olaf

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* Re: [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
  2017-10-26 15:59   ` Olaf Hering
@ 2017-10-26 16:14     ` Andrew Cooper
  2017-10-26 17:05       ` Olaf Hering
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Cooper @ 2017-10-26 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Olaf Hering; +Cc: Wei Liu, Ian Jackson, Vasilis Liaskovitis, xen-devel

On 26/10/17 16:59, Olaf Hering wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 26, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>
>> Can't all information be obtained from /sys/hypervisor?  If not, how
>> hard would it be to make happen?
> Likely not that hard. Not sure why that was not added in the first place.

I've never really understood why xenfs exists in the first place
(although I expect the answer is "Because that is how someone did it in
the past"), and I'm not aware of any other project which needs its own
custom filesystem driver for device nodes.

These days, /dev/xen/ is the preferred location for devices anyway.

Either way, I don't mean to bikeshed the issue, but we should at least
consider whether cleaning this up fully is the easiest course of action.

>
>> What happens to all the software which currently has a dependency on
>> proc-xen.mount ?
> All software gets converted by this change.

Is it possible to express a dependency on proc-xen.mount ||
proc-xen.service?

If not, then out-of-tree packages are going to have compatibility
problems with this change.

>
>> Independently, how does this interact with having a xenfs entries in
>> /etc/fstab, which might plausibly still exist for compatibility with
>> other init systems?
> mount(1) will continue to consider them.

Right, but ISTR that Systemd deals with /etc/fstab by auto-generating
*.mount targets, and from what is said here, it is the proc-xen.mount
target which is now broken by the change in systemd behaviour.

~Andrew`

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* Re: [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
  2017-10-26 16:14     ` Andrew Cooper
@ 2017-10-26 17:05       ` Olaf Hering
  2017-11-08 16:24         ` Olaf Hering
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Olaf Hering @ 2017-10-26 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Cooper; +Cc: Wei Liu, Ian Jackson, Vasilis Liaskovitis, xen-devel


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On Thu, Oct 26, Andrew Cooper wrote:

> I've never really understood why xenfs exists in the first place
> (although I expect the answer is "Because that is how someone did it in
> the past"), and I'm not aware of any other project which needs its own
> custom filesystem driver for device nodes.

Perhaps in the early days, before udev, new nodes would not magically
appear in /dev. It was likely easy to be compatible that way, just like
claiming /dev/hda to please existing installation programs.

> Is it possible to express a dependency on proc-xen.mount ||
> proc-xen.service?

As ordering yes, an additional After=proc-xen.service line is needed.
An existing Requires=proc-xen.mount can not be used anymore, I have not
verified that.

> If not, then out-of-tree packages are going to have compatibility
> problems with this change.

Only if they use Requires=proc-xen.mount.

> Right, but ISTR that Systemd deals with /etc/fstab by auto-generating
> *.mount targets, and from what is said here, it is the proc-xen.mount
> target which is now broken by the change in systemd behaviour.

No, existing fstab entries will continue to work. /dev/shm is
automounted, and my own fstab entry for /dev/shm always worked.

Olaf

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* Re: [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
  2017-10-26 15:25 [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service Olaf Hering
  2017-10-26 15:45 ` Andrew Cooper
@ 2017-10-27 13:58 ` Wei Liu
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Wei Liu @ 2017-10-27 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Olaf Hering
  Cc: Wei Liu, Ian Jackson, Jan Beulich, Vasilis Liaskovitis, xen-devel

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 05:25:36PM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:
> An upcoming change in systemd will mount xenfs right away, along with
> all other system mounts. This improves the detection of the
> virtualization environment, which is currently racy. Some parts of
> systemd rely on the presence of /proc/xen/capabilities, which will only
> exist if xenfs is mounted. Since xenfs is mounted by the proc-xen.mount
> unit, it will be processed very late. Other units may be processed
> earlier, and if they make use of ConditionVirtualization*= failures may
> occour.
> 
> Unfortunately mounting xenfs by systemd as an API filesystem will lead
> to errors when proc-xen.mount is processed. Since that mount point
> already exists the unit is considered as failed, and other units that
> depend on proc-xen.mount will not start. To avoid this the existing
> proc-xen.mount will be converted into proc-xen.service, which just
> mounts xenfs manually. All dependencies are updated by this change.
> 
> The existing conditionals in proc-xen.mount will prevent failures with
> existing systemd based installations:
> ConditionPathExists=!/proc/xen/capabilities will prevent execution with
> a new systemd that mounts xenfs. And this conditional, in combination
> with ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen, will trigger execution with an old
> systemd.
> 
> An absolute path to the mount binary has to be used. /bin/mount is
> expected to be universally available, nowaways it is a symlink to
> /usr/bin/mount.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>

The code itself looks OK at a glance.

What is unsaid is that we need to backport this to older Xen releases so
that old Xen can work with new systemd.

Ian and Jan?

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* Re: [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
  2017-10-26 15:45 ` Andrew Cooper
  2017-10-26 15:59   ` Olaf Hering
@ 2017-10-30 10:08   ` Wei Liu
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Wei Liu @ 2017-10-30 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Cooper
  Cc: Wei Liu, Olaf Hering, Ian Jackson, Vasilis Liaskovitis, xen-devel

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 04:45:38PM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 26/10/17 16:25, Olaf Hering wrote:
> > An upcoming change in systemd will mount xenfs right away, along with
> > all other system mounts. This improves the detection of the
> > virtualization environment, which is currently racy. Some parts of
> > systemd rely on the presence of /proc/xen/capabilities, which will only
> > exist if xenfs is mounted. Since xenfs is mounted by the proc-xen.mount
> > unit, it will be processed very late. Other units may be processed
> > earlier, and if they make use of ConditionVirtualization*= failures may
> > occour.
> >
> > Unfortunately mounting xenfs by systemd as an API filesystem will lead
> > to errors when proc-xen.mount is processed. Since that mount point
> > already exists the unit is considered as failed, and other units that
> > depend on proc-xen.mount will not start. To avoid this the existing
> > proc-xen.mount will be converted into proc-xen.service, which just
> > mounts xenfs manually. All dependencies are updated by this change.
> >
> > The existing conditionals in proc-xen.mount will prevent failures with
> > existing systemd based installations:
> > ConditionPathExists=!/proc/xen/capabilities will prevent execution with
> > a new systemd that mounts xenfs. And this conditional, in combination
> > with ConditionPathExists=/proc/xen, will trigger execution with an old
> > systemd.
> >
> > An absolute path to the mount binary has to be used. /bin/mount is
> > expected to be universally available, nowaways it is a symlink to
> > /usr/bin/mount.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>
> 
> Can't all information be obtained from /sys/hypervisor?  If not, how
> hard would it be to make happen?

It is not possible to tell from /sys/hypervisor at the moment.

There is /sys/hypervisor/properties/features but that only contains
feature bits from hypervisor. And XENFEAT_dom0 is not a reliable
indicator for Dom0.

I suppose it requires a small mount of work to make /sys/hypervisor
contain such information, but that won't get propagated to older kernel
so we need to deal with the problem at hand nonetheless.

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* Re: [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
  2017-10-26 17:05       ` Olaf Hering
@ 2017-11-08 16:24         ` Olaf Hering
  2017-11-08 17:28           ` Wei Liu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Olaf Hering @ 2017-11-08 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Cooper; +Cc: Wei Liu, Ian Jackson, Vasilis Liaskovitis, xen-devel


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On Thu, Oct 26, Olaf Hering wrote:

> > If not, then out-of-tree packages are going to have compatibility
> > problems with this change.
> Only if they use Requires=proc-xen.mount.

Any other objections to this change?

How to proceed with this?

Olaf

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* Re: [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
  2017-11-08 16:24         ` Olaf Hering
@ 2017-11-08 17:28           ` Wei Liu
  2017-11-08 17:38             ` Olaf Hering
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Wei Liu @ 2017-11-08 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Olaf Hering
  Cc: Andrew Cooper, Ian Jackson, Wei Liu, Vasilis Liaskovitis, xen-devel

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 05:24:14PM +0100, Olaf Hering wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 26, Olaf Hering wrote:
> 
> > > If not, then out-of-tree packages are going to have compatibility
> > > problems with this change.
> > Only if they use Requires=proc-xen.mount.
> 
> Any other objections to this change?
> 
> How to proceed with this?

Regardless of the decision whether we should backport this to older
branch, I think we should accept this patch going forward to avoid
breakage.

But is there really no way to ask nicely to see if systemd would accept
a change in behaviour? That is, to make proc-xen.mount (or any attempt
to mount API fs) a nop when xenfs is added to API file system.

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* Re: [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
  2017-11-08 17:28           ` Wei Liu
@ 2017-11-08 17:38             ` Olaf Hering
  2017-11-09 10:48               ` Ian Jackson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Olaf Hering @ 2017-11-08 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Liu; +Cc: Andrew Cooper, Ian Jackson, Vasilis Liaskovitis, xen-devel


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On Wed, Nov 08, Wei Liu wrote:

> But is there really no way to ask nicely to see if systemd would accept
> a change in behaviour? That is, to make proc-xen.mount (or any attempt
> to mount API fs) a nop when xenfs is added to API file system.

I have considered that as well. If the failing unit is "proc-xen.mount"
and /proc/xen exists, just ignore the error. I will check if and how
that can be done.


Olaf

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* Re: [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service
  2017-11-08 17:38             ` Olaf Hering
@ 2017-11-09 10:48               ` Ian Jackson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Ian Jackson @ 2017-11-09 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Olaf Hering; +Cc: Andrew Cooper, Wei Liu, Vasilis Liaskovitis, xen-devel

Olaf Hering writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v1] tools/hotplug: convert proc-xen.mount to proc-xen.service"):
> On Wed, Nov 08, Wei Liu wrote:
> > But is there really no way to ask nicely to see if systemd would accept
> > a change in behaviour? That is, to make proc-xen.mount (or any attempt
> > to mount API fs) a nop when xenfs is added to API file system.
> 
> I have considered that as well. If the failing unit is "proc-xen.mount"
> and /proc/xen exists, just ignore the error. I will check if and how
> that can be done.

It seems to me that this should be the case for all mount units.
Nothing here is Xen-specific, apart from the particular details of the
consequential lossage.

Ie, mount units should be idempotent even if something else has
already mounted them.  Certainly mount units should be a no-op if
their functionality has been moved into the systemd internal mount
table.

Can we please see what systemd upstream think of that proposal ?

Ian.

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