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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Archit Taneja <archit@ti.com>,
	Darren Etheridge <detheridge@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/26] ARM: omap3.dtsi: add omapdss information
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:44:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2364383.8GWpsWSoJu@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52A5BB65.5050109@ti.com>

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Hi Tomi,

On Monday 09 December 2013 14:45:25 Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> On 2013-12-05 19:05, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > * Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com> [131204 04:31]:
> > 
> > Description missing.. But other than that can you please check that
> > the latest patch I posted in thread "[PATCH] ARM: OMAP2+: Fix populating
> > the hwmod data from device" works with this?
> > 
> > The test to do is to remove the related reg, interrupt and dma entries
> > from omap_hwmod_*_data.c, and make sure the related hwmod data is
> > initialized from DT properly.
> 
> I made a quick test with panda, by applying your patch and reverting
> b38911f3472be89551bfca740adf0009562b9873. That only effectively tests
> the DISPC IRQ, but that worked fine.
> 
> > I don't know if it makes sense to have them as children of dss_core, they
> > really all seem to be completely independent devices?
> 
> The DSS subdevices depend on the dss_core. dss_core has to be powered up
> for any of the subdevices to work. This is done automatically by the
> runtime PM when the subdevices are children of the dss_core.

I'd like to get a clearer picture of the hardware here. The OMAP3 ISP is 
organized in a seemingly similar way, with the hardware subdivided in high-
level more-or-less independent modules. However, from a system point of view, 
the ISP submodules are not standalone: they're part of the same power domain 
as the ISP core, with subclocks management and interrupts being handled by the 
ISP core. For those reasons we've modeled the ISP as a single platform device.

Are the DSS submodules really independent, or are they organized similarly ? 
For instance do they each have a clock handled by the OMAP core clock IP, or 
are the clocks gated by the DSS core ? Do they have interrupts routed to the 
GIC, or does the DSS core driver demux the interrupts ?

If the submodules are not independent, would it make sense to have a single DT 
node that would be matched with the DSS core driver ? You could list 
information about the submodules in subnodes, and possibly create platform 
devices internally in the DSS core, but a single platform device would be 
instantiated from DT, and the DSS core wouldn't need a "simple-bus" compatible 
string. My gut feeling is that this would be a better representation of the 
hardware, but I might not known enough about the DSS and be completely wrong.

> > BTW, for v3.15, I'm hoping to do patches where we deprecate ti,hwmods
> > property and do the lookup based on the compatible property instead ;)
> > So from that point of view we need to get the device mapping right in
> > the .dtsi files, and don't want to start mixing up separate devices into
> > single .dtsi entry.
> 
> Hmm, was that just a general comment, or something that affects the DSS
> DT data I have in my patch? As far as I understand, the DSS nodes
> reflect the current hwmods correctly.
> 
> With the exception that DPI and SDI do not have a matching hwmod, as
> they are really part of dss_core/dispc. They are separate nodes as they
> are "video outputs" the same way as the other subnodes.
> 
> I could perhaps remove the DPI and SDI nodes, and have them as direct
> video ports from DISPC, but... That's easier said than done.

DPI and SDI indeed seem like ports to me, node devices. Have you given the 
implementation a thought ? How difficult would it be ?

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Archit Taneja <archit@ti.com>,
	Darren Etheridge <detheridge@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/26] ARM: omap3.dtsi: add omapdss information
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:44:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2364383.8GWpsWSoJu@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52A5BB65.5050109@ti.com>

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Hi Tomi,

On Monday 09 December 2013 14:45:25 Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> On 2013-12-05 19:05, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > * Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com> [131204 04:31]:
> > 
> > Description missing.. But other than that can you please check that
> > the latest patch I posted in thread "[PATCH] ARM: OMAP2+: Fix populating
> > the hwmod data from device" works with this?
> > 
> > The test to do is to remove the related reg, interrupt and dma entries
> > from omap_hwmod_*_data.c, and make sure the related hwmod data is
> > initialized from DT properly.
> 
> I made a quick test with panda, by applying your patch and reverting
> b38911f3472be89551bfca740adf0009562b9873. That only effectively tests
> the DISPC IRQ, but that worked fine.
> 
> > I don't know if it makes sense to have them as children of dss_core, they
> > really all seem to be completely independent devices?
> 
> The DSS subdevices depend on the dss_core. dss_core has to be powered up
> for any of the subdevices to work. This is done automatically by the
> runtime PM when the subdevices are children of the dss_core.

I'd like to get a clearer picture of the hardware here. The OMAP3 ISP is 
organized in a seemingly similar way, with the hardware subdivided in high-
level more-or-less independent modules. However, from a system point of view, 
the ISP submodules are not standalone: they're part of the same power domain 
as the ISP core, with subclocks management and interrupts being handled by the 
ISP core. For those reasons we've modeled the ISP as a single platform device.

Are the DSS submodules really independent, or are they organized similarly ? 
For instance do they each have a clock handled by the OMAP core clock IP, or 
are the clocks gated by the DSS core ? Do they have interrupts routed to the 
GIC, or does the DSS core driver demux the interrupts ?

If the submodules are not independent, would it make sense to have a single DT 
node that would be matched with the DSS core driver ? You could list 
information about the submodules in subnodes, and possibly create platform 
devices internally in the DSS core, but a single platform device would be 
instantiated from DT, and the DSS core wouldn't need a "simple-bus" compatible 
string. My gut feeling is that this would be a better representation of the 
hardware, but I might not known enough about the DSS and be completely wrong.

> > BTW, for v3.15, I'm hoping to do patches where we deprecate ti,hwmods
> > property and do the lookup based on the compatible property instead ;)
> > So from that point of view we need to get the device mapping right in
> > the .dtsi files, and don't want to start mixing up separate devices into
> > single .dtsi entry.
> 
> Hmm, was that just a general comment, or something that affects the DSS
> DT data I have in my patch? As far as I understand, the DSS nodes
> reflect the current hwmods correctly.
> 
> With the exception that DPI and SDI do not have a matching hwmod, as
> they are really part of dss_core/dispc. They are separate nodes as they
> are "video outputs" the same way as the other subnodes.
> 
> I could perhaps remove the DPI and SDI nodes, and have them as direct
> video ports from DISPC, but... That's easier said than done.

DPI and SDI indeed seem like ports to me, node devices. Have you given the 
implementation a thought ? How difficult would it be ?

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-11 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-04 12:28 [PATCH 00/26] OMAPDSS: DT support (Christmas edition) Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 01/26] OMAPDSS: rename display-sysfs 'name' entry Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 02/26] OMAPDSS: DSI: fix fifosize Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 03/26] ARM: OMAP: remove DSS DT hack Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 04/26] OMAPDSS: remove DT hacks for regulators Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 05/26] ARM: OMAP2+: add omapdss_init_of() Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-11 23:10   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-11 23:10     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12  7:30     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12  7:30       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13  8:32       ` Archit Taneja
2013-12-13  8:44         ` Archit Taneja
2013-12-13  8:40         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13  8:40           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13 17:07         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-13 17:07           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 06/26] OMAPDSS: if dssdev->name==NULL, use alias Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-11 23:13   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-11 23:13     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-11 23:56     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-11 23:56       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12  7:41       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12  7:41         ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]         ` <52A968BD.20304-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-12 10:05           ` Sebastian Reichel
2013-12-12 10:05             ` Sebastian Reichel
2013-12-12 13:22             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12 13:22               ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12 14:13             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12 14:13               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12 14:15               ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12 14:15                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12 14:19                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12 14:19                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12 17:31                   ` Sebastian Reichel
2013-12-12 17:31                     ` Sebastian Reichel
2013-12-13 12:01               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13 12:01                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 07/26] OMAPDSS: get dssdev->alias from DT alias Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 08/26] OMAPFB: clean up default display search Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 09/26] OMAPFB: search for default display with DT alias Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 10/26] OMAPDSS: add of helpers Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-11 23:19   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-11 23:19     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12  7:48     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12  7:48       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13  2:37       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-13  2:37         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 11/26] OMAPDSS: Add DT support to DSS, DISPC, DPI, HDMI, VENC Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 12/26] OMAPDSS: Add DT support to DSI Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 13/26] ARM: omap3.dtsi: add omapdss information Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-05 17:05   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-05 17:05     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-09 12:45     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-09 12:45       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-09 18:04       ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-09 18:04         ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-11 23:44       ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2013-12-11 23:44         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12  8:38         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12  8:38           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12 21:59           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-13  3:27             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-13  3:27               ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-13 10:18               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13 10:18                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                 ` <52AADEF3.9040808-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-13 17:10                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-13 17:10                     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-13  3:24           ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-13  3:24             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-13  9:29             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13  9:29               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-16 10:49             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-16 10:49               ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]               ` <52AEDA9F.2020609-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-16 13:55                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-16 13:55                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 14/26] ARM: omap4.dtsi: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 15/26] ARM: omap4-panda.dts: add display information Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-06  8:57   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-06  8:57     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-09 12:56     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-09 12:56       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-09 15:09       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-09 15:09         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-09 15:30         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-09 15:30           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-09 16:53           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-09 16:53             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-10 10:56             ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2013-12-10 10:56               ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2013-12-10 12:10               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-10 12:10                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 16/26] ARM: omap4-sdp.dts: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13  9:27   ` Archit Taneja
2013-12-13  9:39     ` Archit Taneja
2013-12-13  9:39     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13  9:39       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13  9:58       ` Archit Taneja
2013-12-13  9:58         ` Archit Taneja
2013-12-13 10:15         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13 10:15           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 17/26] ARM: omap3-tobi.dts: add lcd (TEST) Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-06 10:18   ` Florian Vaussard
2013-12-06 10:18     ` Florian Vaussard
2013-12-10 12:18     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-10 12:18       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 18/26] ARM: omap3-beagle.dts: add display information Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-06  8:41   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-06  8:41     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-09 12:06     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-09 12:06       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-09 12:16       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-09 12:16         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 19/26] ARM: omap3-beagle-xm.dts: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 20/26] OMAPDSS: panel-dsi-cm: Add DT support Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 21/26] OMAPDSS: encoder-tfp410: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 22/26] OMAPDSS: connector-dvi: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 23/26] OMAPDSS: encoder-tpd12s015: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 24/26] OMAPDSS: hdmi-connector: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 25/26] OMAPDSS: panel-dpi: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28 ` [PATCH 26/26] OMAPDSS: connector-analog-tv: " Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-04 12:28   ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found] ` <1386160133-24026-1-git-send-email-tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-04 16:01   ` [PATCH 00/26] OMAPDSS: DT support (Christmas edition) Sebastian Reichel
2013-12-04 16:01     ` Sebastian Reichel
2013-12-05  9:41     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-05  9:41       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12  0:39 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12  0:39   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12  8:54   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-12  8:54     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13  3:45     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-13  3:45       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-13  8:16       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-12-13  8:16         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-12-13 10:05       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13 10:05         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13 14:37         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-13 14:37           ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-13 15:47           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13 15:47             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-13 17:22             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-13 17:22               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-14  7:34               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-14  7:34                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-14 14:09                 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-14 14:09                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-16  7:24                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-16  7:24                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-18  0:30                     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-18  0:30                       ` Tony Lindgren
2013-12-07  3:48 Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-07  3:48 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-07  4:28 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-07  4:28   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-09 12:01   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-09 12:01     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-12-09 12:23     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-12-09 12:23       ` Javier Martinez Canillas

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