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From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Wang Dong <dong.wang.pro-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org"
	<dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ixgbe:Add write memory barrier for recv pkts.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:14:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772582141626B@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP198103C46C2C7C9EBA5C96ABFE40-MsuGFMq8XAE@public.gmane.org>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: outlook_739db8e1c4bc6fae-1ViLX0X+lBJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org [mailto:outlook_739db8e1c4bc6fae-1ViLX0X+lBJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Wang Dong
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:36 PM
> To: Ananyev, Konstantin; dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ixgbe:Add write memory barrier for recv pkts.
> 
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: outlook_739db8e1c4bc6fae-1ViLX0X+lBJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org [mailto:outlook_739db8e1c4bc6fae-1ViLX0X+lBJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Dong.Wang
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:46 PM
> >> To: Ananyev, Konstantin; dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org
> >> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ixgbe:Add write memory barrier for recv pkts.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of WangDong
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 4:34 PM
> >>>> To: dev-VfR2kkLFssw@public.gmane.org
> >>>> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ixgbe:Add write memory barrier for recv pkts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Like transmit packets, before update receive descriptor's tail pointer, rte_wmb() should be added after writing recv descriptor.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Dong Wang <dong.wang.pro-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>    lib/librte_pmd_ixgbe/ixgbe_rxtx.c | 5 +++++
> >>>>    1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/lib/librte_pmd_ixgbe/ixgbe_rxtx.c b/lib/librte_pmd_ixgbe/ixgbe_rxtx.c
> >>>> index 9da2c7e..d504688 100644
> >>>> --- a/lib/librte_pmd_ixgbe/ixgbe_rxtx.c
> >>>> +++ b/lib/librte_pmd_ixgbe/ixgbe_rxtx.c
> >>>> @@ -1338,6 +1338,9 @@ ixgbe_recv_pkts(void *rx_queue, struct rte_mbuf **rx_pkts,
> >>>>    		 */
> >>>>    		rx_pkts[nb_rx++] = rxm;
> >>>>    	}
> >>>> +
> >>>> +	rte_wmb();
> >>>> +
> >>>
> >>> Why do you think it is necessary?
> >>> I can't see any good reason to put wmb() here.
> >>> I would understand if, at least you'll try to insert it just before updating RDT:
> >>>    rx_id = (uint16_t) ((rx_id == 0) ?
> >>>                                        (rxq->nb_rx_desc - 1) : (rx_id - 1));
> >>> + rte_wmb();
> >>> IXGBE_PCI_REG_WRITE(rxq->rdt_reg_addr, rx_id);
> >>>
> >>> That is not needed IA with current implementation, but would make sense for machines with relaxed memory ordering.
> >>> Though right now DPDK IXGBE PMD is supported only on IA,  anyway.
> >>> Same for ixgbe_recv_scattered_pkts().
> >>>
> >>> Konstantin
> >>
> >> Yes, current implementation works well with IA, and the transmit packets
> >> function's rte_wmb() is also unneccessary.
> >>
> >> But there are two reasons for adding rte_wmb() in recv pkts function:
> >> 1) The memory barrier in recv pkts function and xmit pkts function are
> >> inconsistent, rte_wmb() should be added to recv pkts function or be
> >> removed from xmit pkts function.
> >> 2) DPDK will support PowerPC processor (Other developers are working on
> >> it), I check the memory ordering of PowerPC, there was no mention of
> >> store-store instruction's principle in MPC8544 Reference Manual, only
> >> said it is weak memory ordering.
> >>
> >> So, I think it is neccessary to add rte_wmb() to recv pkts function.
> >>
> >> Dong
> >
> > What I was trying to say:
> >
> > 1. I think you put barrier in a wrong place.
> > Even for machines with weak memory ordering, we need a barrier only when we are goint to update RDT, i.e:
> > if (nb_hold > rxq->rx_free_thresh) { ... ; barrier; IXGBE_PCI_REG_WRITE(rxq->rdt_reg_addr, ...); }
> Yes, I put it in a wrong place, it will reduce performance. It's better
> to place it in that you suggested.
> >
> > 2. Even with putting wmb() here, you wouldn't fix  ixgbe_recv_pkts() to work on machines with weak memory ordering.
> > I think that to make it work properly, you'll need an rmb() bewtween reading DD bit and rest of RXD:
> >
> > rxdp = &rx_ring[rx_id];
> >   staterr = rxdp->wb.upper.status_error;
> > + rte_rmb();
> >   if (! (staterr & rte_cpu_to_le_32(IXGBE_RXDADV_STAT_DD)))
> >                          break;
> >   rxd = *rxdp;
> Yes, it seems wmb is not enough for weak memory ordering processor. Both
> rmb and wmb are needed.
> >
> > 3. As Stephen pointed in his mail, we shouldn't penalise IA implementation with unnecessary barriers
> > As was discussed at that thread:  http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2015-March/015202.html
> > probably the best is to introduce a new macros: rte_smp_*mb (or something) that would be architecture dependent:
> > compiler_barrier on IA, proper HW barrier on machines with weak memory ordering and update the code to use it.
> >
> > So, if you like to fix that issue, please do that in  a proper way.
> >
> > BTW, I think that for PPC support even before touching ixgbe or any other PMD,
> > step 3 (or similar) need to be done on rte_ring enqueue/dequeue code.
> >
> > Konstantin
> Yes,  a new set of macros should be introduced first, then we can update
> PMD code. Did anyone are working on it now ?

As far as I know, no one is working on it right now.
So, I suppose, you are welcome to start :) 
Konstantin

> 
> Dong
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>    	rxq->rx_tail = rx_id;
> >>>>
> >>>>    	/*
> >>>> @@ -1595,6 +1598,8 @@ ixgbe_recv_scattered_pkts(void *rx_queue, struct rte_mbuf **rx_pkts,
> >>>>    		first_seg = NULL;
> >>>>    	}
> >>>>
> >>>> +	rte_wmb();
> >>>> +
> >>>>    	/*
> >>>>    	 * Record index of the next RX descriptor to probe.
> >>>>    	 */
> >>>> --
> >>>> 1.9.1
> >>>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-16 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-11 15:33 [PATCH] ixgbe:Add write memory barrier for recv pkts WangDong
     [not found] ` <BLU436-SMTP1791A6BD70260D97089EDBFBFF90-MsuGFMq8XAE@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-14 22:50   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
     [not found]     ` <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB97725821415A3A-pww93C2UFcwu0RiL9chJVbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 13:46       ` Dong.Wang
     [not found]         ` <BLU436-SMTP22AEE6E7C0129FF42E71B2BFE50-MsuGFMq8XAE@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 16:06           ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-04-16 11:29             ` Wang Dong
2015-04-15 22:52           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
     [not found]             ` <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB97725821415E37-pww93C2UFcwu0RiL9chJVbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-16 11:36               ` Wang Dong
     [not found]                 ` <BLU436-SMTP198103C46C2C7C9EBA5C96ABFE40-MsuGFMq8XAE@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-16 15:14                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772582141626B-pww93C2UFcwu0RiL9chJVbfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-16 15:55                       ` David Marchand
2015-05-05 15:52                       ` Dong Wang
2015-04-16 15:55 Dong Wang
2015-04-16 15:58 Dong Wang

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