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From: Rex-BC Chen <rex-bc.chen@mediatek.com>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: <rafael@kernel.org>, <robh+dt@kernel.org>, <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	<matthias.bgg@gmail.com>, <jia-wei.chang@mediatek.com>,
	<roger.lu@mediatek.com>, <hsinyi@google.com>,
	<khilman@baylibre.com>, <angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	<Project_Global_Chrome_Upstream_Group@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 07/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Add .get function
Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 19:33:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27a5dddd91b3dcbd69f08c10108cdec808237ace.camel@mediatek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220428114835.3ktimyz2tzzqdcbg@vireshk-i7>

On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 17:18 +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 28-04-22, 19:16, Rex-BC Chen wrote:
> > Yes, the call stack will eventually go to __cpufreq_driver_target.
> > However, we can observe the mismatch between target_freq and
> > policy-cur 
> > with a tiny difference.
> > e.g.
> > [ 553.065356] cpufreq: target for CPU 0: 500000 kHz, relation 0,
> > requested 500000 kHz
> > [ 553.066366] cpufreq: target_freq/policy->cur: 500000/499999 kHz
> 
> So you are trying to set the frequency to 500 MHz now, but policy-
> >cur says it
> is 499 MHz.
> 
Hello Viresh,

Yes.

> > We check the assignment of policy->cur could be either from
> > cpufreq_driver->get_intermediate or from cpufreq_driver->get.
> 
> policy->cur is set only at two places, in your case:
> - CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE
> - cpufreq_online()
> 
> From what I understand, it is possible that cpufreq_online() is
> setting your
> frequency to 499999 (once at boot), but as soon as a frequency change
> has
> happened after that, policy->cur should be set to 500 MHz and you
> should see
> this problem only once.
> 

Our observation tells us cpufreq_online is setting only once at boot
for one cpu cluster.
But we can see the problem repeatly occurs once cpufreq_get is invoked.

e.g.
[ 71.154560] cpufreq: Warning: CPU frequency out of sync: cpufreq and
timing core thinks of 500000, is 499999 kHz
[ 71.155880] cpufreq: notification 0 of frequency transition to 499999
kHz
[ 71.156777] cpufreq: notification 1 of frequency transition to 499999
kHz
[ 71.187241] cpufreq: target for CPU 0: 500000 kHz, relation 0,
requested 500000 kHz
[ 71.188246] cpufreq: target_freq/policy->cur: 500000/499999 kHz

> From CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE notifier, we always set policy->cur from the
> table
> itself, which should be 500000 MHz.
> 

Our observation tells me it can be either 499999 kHz or 500000 kHz.
This can be printed at the last line of CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE within
'cpufreq_notify_transition'

> I wonder how you see policy->cur to be 499999 here. Does this happen
> only once ?
> Or repeatedly ?
> 

It repeatly happens.

> > But it is strange to have the frequency value like 499999 kHz.
> > Is the result of tiny frequency difference expected from your point
> > of
> > view?
> 
> Clock driver can give this value, that is fine.
> 

Thanks for your answer.

> > > What do you mean by "voltage pulse" here? What actually happens
> > > which
> > > you want to avoid.
> > > 
> > 
> > When cpufreq is fixed to lowest opp, "voltage pulse" is a quick
> > voltage
> > rising and falling phenomenon which can be observed if
> > 'cpufreq_get' is
> > invoked.
> 
> Do check if the call is reaching your driver's ->target_index(), it
> should be
> which it should not, ideally.
> 

Yes, 'cpufreq_get' will eventually go to '->target_index()' because of
inequality between target_freq and policy->cur.

And we realized that the "voltage pulse" is generated by quick
switching voltage from 500 MHz to intermediate voltage and back to 500
MHz in current mediatek-cpufreq.c.
To fix it, we think two possible ways to approach.
One is from cpufreq framework side. Is it expected to update the
cpufreq platform driver repeatly for this case?
If it is expected, then from platform driver side, mediatek-cpufreq
should handle a condition to avoid unnecessary intermediate voltage
switching.

BRs,
Rex

> > Thank you for sharing the correct information.
> > Is it possible to get frequency (API) a simple way, like get
> > current
> > opp frequency?
> 
> Lets dig/debug a bit further and fix this if a real problem exists.
> 


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rex-BC Chen <rex-bc.chen@mediatek.com>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: <rafael@kernel.org>, <robh+dt@kernel.org>, <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	<matthias.bgg@gmail.com>, <jia-wei.chang@mediatek.com>,
	<roger.lu@mediatek.com>, <hsinyi@google.com>,
	<khilman@baylibre.com>, <angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	 <Project_Global_Chrome_Upstream_Group@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 07/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Add .get function
Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 19:33:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27a5dddd91b3dcbd69f08c10108cdec808237ace.camel@mediatek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220428114835.3ktimyz2tzzqdcbg@vireshk-i7>

On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 17:18 +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 28-04-22, 19:16, Rex-BC Chen wrote:
> > Yes, the call stack will eventually go to __cpufreq_driver_target.
> > However, we can observe the mismatch between target_freq and
> > policy-cur 
> > with a tiny difference.
> > e.g.
> > [ 553.065356] cpufreq: target for CPU 0: 500000 kHz, relation 0,
> > requested 500000 kHz
> > [ 553.066366] cpufreq: target_freq/policy->cur: 500000/499999 kHz
> 
> So you are trying to set the frequency to 500 MHz now, but policy-
> >cur says it
> is 499 MHz.
> 
Hello Viresh,

Yes.

> > We check the assignment of policy->cur could be either from
> > cpufreq_driver->get_intermediate or from cpufreq_driver->get.
> 
> policy->cur is set only at two places, in your case:
> - CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE
> - cpufreq_online()
> 
> From what I understand, it is possible that cpufreq_online() is
> setting your
> frequency to 499999 (once at boot), but as soon as a frequency change
> has
> happened after that, policy->cur should be set to 500 MHz and you
> should see
> this problem only once.
> 

Our observation tells us cpufreq_online is setting only once at boot
for one cpu cluster.
But we can see the problem repeatly occurs once cpufreq_get is invoked.

e.g.
[ 71.154560] cpufreq: Warning: CPU frequency out of sync: cpufreq and
timing core thinks of 500000, is 499999 kHz
[ 71.155880] cpufreq: notification 0 of frequency transition to 499999
kHz
[ 71.156777] cpufreq: notification 1 of frequency transition to 499999
kHz
[ 71.187241] cpufreq: target for CPU 0: 500000 kHz, relation 0,
requested 500000 kHz
[ 71.188246] cpufreq: target_freq/policy->cur: 500000/499999 kHz

> From CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE notifier, we always set policy->cur from the
> table
> itself, which should be 500000 MHz.
> 

Our observation tells me it can be either 499999 kHz or 500000 kHz.
This can be printed at the last line of CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE within
'cpufreq_notify_transition'

> I wonder how you see policy->cur to be 499999 here. Does this happen
> only once ?
> Or repeatedly ?
> 

It repeatly happens.

> > But it is strange to have the frequency value like 499999 kHz.
> > Is the result of tiny frequency difference expected from your point
> > of
> > view?
> 
> Clock driver can give this value, that is fine.
> 

Thanks for your answer.

> > > What do you mean by "voltage pulse" here? What actually happens
> > > which
> > > you want to avoid.
> > > 
> > 
> > When cpufreq is fixed to lowest opp, "voltage pulse" is a quick
> > voltage
> > rising and falling phenomenon which can be observed if
> > 'cpufreq_get' is
> > invoked.
> 
> Do check if the call is reaching your driver's ->target_index(), it
> should be
> which it should not, ideally.
> 

Yes, 'cpufreq_get' will eventually go to '->target_index()' because of
inequality between target_freq and policy->cur.

And we realized that the "voltage pulse" is generated by quick
switching voltage from 500 MHz to intermediate voltage and back to 500
MHz in current mediatek-cpufreq.c.
To fix it, we think two possible ways to approach.
One is from cpufreq framework side. Is it expected to update the
cpufreq platform driver repeatly for this case?
If it is expected, then from platform driver side, mediatek-cpufreq
should handle a condition to avoid unnecessary intermediate voltage
switching.

BRs,
Rex

> > Thank you for sharing the correct information.
> > Is it possible to get frequency (API) a simple way, like get
> > current
> > opp frequency?
> 
> Lets dig/debug a bit further and fix this if a real problem exists.
> 


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From: Rex-BC Chen <rex-bc.chen@mediatek.com>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: <rafael@kernel.org>, <robh+dt@kernel.org>, <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	<matthias.bgg@gmail.com>, <jia-wei.chang@mediatek.com>,
	<roger.lu@mediatek.com>, <hsinyi@google.com>,
	<khilman@baylibre.com>, <angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	 <Project_Global_Chrome_Upstream_Group@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 07/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Add .get function
Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 19:33:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27a5dddd91b3dcbd69f08c10108cdec808237ace.camel@mediatek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220428114835.3ktimyz2tzzqdcbg@vireshk-i7>

On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 17:18 +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 28-04-22, 19:16, Rex-BC Chen wrote:
> > Yes, the call stack will eventually go to __cpufreq_driver_target.
> > However, we can observe the mismatch between target_freq and
> > policy-cur 
> > with a tiny difference.
> > e.g.
> > [ 553.065356] cpufreq: target for CPU 0: 500000 kHz, relation 0,
> > requested 500000 kHz
> > [ 553.066366] cpufreq: target_freq/policy->cur: 500000/499999 kHz
> 
> So you are trying to set the frequency to 500 MHz now, but policy-
> >cur says it
> is 499 MHz.
> 
Hello Viresh,

Yes.

> > We check the assignment of policy->cur could be either from
> > cpufreq_driver->get_intermediate or from cpufreq_driver->get.
> 
> policy->cur is set only at two places, in your case:
> - CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE
> - cpufreq_online()
> 
> From what I understand, it is possible that cpufreq_online() is
> setting your
> frequency to 499999 (once at boot), but as soon as a frequency change
> has
> happened after that, policy->cur should be set to 500 MHz and you
> should see
> this problem only once.
> 

Our observation tells us cpufreq_online is setting only once at boot
for one cpu cluster.
But we can see the problem repeatly occurs once cpufreq_get is invoked.

e.g.
[ 71.154560] cpufreq: Warning: CPU frequency out of sync: cpufreq and
timing core thinks of 500000, is 499999 kHz
[ 71.155880] cpufreq: notification 0 of frequency transition to 499999
kHz
[ 71.156777] cpufreq: notification 1 of frequency transition to 499999
kHz
[ 71.187241] cpufreq: target for CPU 0: 500000 kHz, relation 0,
requested 500000 kHz
[ 71.188246] cpufreq: target_freq/policy->cur: 500000/499999 kHz

> From CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE notifier, we always set policy->cur from the
> table
> itself, which should be 500000 MHz.
> 

Our observation tells me it can be either 499999 kHz or 500000 kHz.
This can be printed at the last line of CPUFREQ_POSTCHANGE within
'cpufreq_notify_transition'

> I wonder how you see policy->cur to be 499999 here. Does this happen
> only once ?
> Or repeatedly ?
> 

It repeatly happens.

> > But it is strange to have the frequency value like 499999 kHz.
> > Is the result of tiny frequency difference expected from your point
> > of
> > view?
> 
> Clock driver can give this value, that is fine.
> 

Thanks for your answer.

> > > What do you mean by "voltage pulse" here? What actually happens
> > > which
> > > you want to avoid.
> > > 
> > 
> > When cpufreq is fixed to lowest opp, "voltage pulse" is a quick
> > voltage
> > rising and falling phenomenon which can be observed if
> > 'cpufreq_get' is
> > invoked.
> 
> Do check if the call is reaching your driver's ->target_index(), it
> should be
> which it should not, ideally.
> 

Yes, 'cpufreq_get' will eventually go to '->target_index()' because of
inequality between target_freq and policy->cur.

And we realized that the "voltage pulse" is generated by quick
switching voltage from 500 MHz to intermediate voltage and back to 500
MHz in current mediatek-cpufreq.c.
To fix it, we think two possible ways to approach.
One is from cpufreq framework side. Is it expected to update the
cpufreq platform driver repeatly for this case?
If it is expected, then from platform driver side, mediatek-cpufreq
should handle a condition to avoid unnecessary intermediate voltage
switching.

BRs,
Rex

> > Thank you for sharing the correct information.
> > Is it possible to get frequency (API) a simple way, like get
> > current
> > opp frequency?
> 
> Lets dig/debug a bit further and fix this if a real problem exists.
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-03 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-22  7:52 [PATCH V4 00/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Cleanup and support MT8183 and MT8186 Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52 ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52 ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 01/14] dt-bindings: cpufreq: mediatek: Add MediaTek CCI property Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  8:21   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  8:21     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  8:21     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22 17:26   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-22 17:26     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-22 17:26     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-22 17:34     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-22 17:34       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-22 17:34       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-25  6:19       ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  6:19         ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  6:19         ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  8:55         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-25  8:55           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-25  8:55           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-25 10:20           ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25 10:20             ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25 10:20             ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25 10:52             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-25 10:52               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-25 10:52               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-26  8:26               ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-26  8:26                 ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-26  8:26                 ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 02/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Use device print to show logs Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  5:10   ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:10     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:10     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 03/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Replace old_* with pre_* Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  5:11   ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:11     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:11     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 04/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Record previous target vproc value Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  8:21   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  8:21     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  8:21     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-25  5:12     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:12       ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:12       ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 05/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Add opp notification support Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  5:20   ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:20     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:20     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  7:28     ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  7:28       ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25 10:38     ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25 10:38       ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 06/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Move voltage limits to platform data Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 07/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Add .get function Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  8:21   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  8:21     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  8:21     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-25  5:35   ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:35     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:35     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  9:34     ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  9:34       ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  9:34       ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25 10:00       ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25 10:00         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25 10:00         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-26 11:13         ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-26 11:13           ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-26 11:13           ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-27  3:11           ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-27  3:11             ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-27  3:11             ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-28 11:16             ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-28 11:16               ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-28 11:16               ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-28 11:48               ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-28 11:48                 ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-28 11:48                 ` Viresh Kumar
2022-05-03 11:33                 ` Rex-BC Chen [this message]
2022-05-03 11:33                   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-05-03 11:33                   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-05-04  8:22                   ` Viresh Kumar
2022-05-04  8:22                     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-05-04  8:22                     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-05-04 11:57                     ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-05-04 11:57                       ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-05-04 11:57                       ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-05-04 11:58                       ` Viresh Kumar
2022-05-04 11:58                         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-05-04 11:58                         ` Viresh Kumar
2022-05-04 12:03                         ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-05-04 12:03                           ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-05-04 12:03                           ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 08/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Make sram regulator optional Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  5:36   ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:36     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-25  5:36     ` Viresh Kumar
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 09/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Refine mtk_cpufreq_voltage_tracking() Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  8:20   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  8:20     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  8:20     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 10/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Link CCI device to CPU Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 11/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Add support for MT8186 Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 12/14] arm64: dts: mediatek: Add opp table and clock property for MT8183 cpufreq Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  8:20   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  8:20     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  8:20     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 13/14] arm64: dts: mediatek: Add MediaTek CCI node for MT8183 Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52 ` [PATCH V4 14/14] arm64: dts: mediatek: Add mediatek,cci property for MT8183 cpufreq Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` [PATCH V4 14/14] arm64: dts: mediatek: Add mediatek, cci " Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22  7:52   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-22 17:23 ` [PATCH V4 00/14] cpufreq: mediatek: Cleanup and support MT8183 and MT8186 Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-22 17:23   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-22 17:23   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-04-25  6:20   ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  6:20     ` Rex-BC Chen
2022-04-25  6:20     ` Rex-BC Chen

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