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From: Yassine Oudjana <yassine.oudjana@gmail.com>
To: AngeloGioacchino Del Regno  <angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>
Cc: Miles Chen <miles.chen@mediatek.com>,
	bgolaszewski@baylibre.com, chun-jie.chen@mediatek.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, ikjn@chromium.org,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	matthias.bgg@gmail.com, mturquette@baylibre.com,
	p.zabel@pengutronix.de, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	sam.shih@mediatek.com, sboyd@kernel.org,
	tinghan.shen@mediatek.com, weiyi.lu@mediatek.com,
	wenst@chromium.org, y.oudjana@protonmail.com,
	~postmarketos/upstreaming@lists.sr.ht
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] clk: mediatek: Add drivers for MediaTek MT6735 main clock drivers
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 15:08:26 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2MH6CR.16DFWCVHBCV@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7b98ee4-cd4f-d7b7-726d-1acd4fafd50a@collabora.com>


On Fri, May 20 2022 at 12:26:25 +0200, AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com> wrote:
> Il 20/05/22 11:35, Miles Chen ha scritto:
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for submitting this patch.
>>>> 
>>>> I compare this with drivers/clk/mediatek/clk-mt7986-apmixed.c,
>>>> and other clk files are using macros to make the mtk_pll_data array
>>>> more readable.
>>> 
>>> I'd actually argue that macros make it less readable. While reading
>>> other drivers I had a lot of trouble figuring out which argument
>>> is which field of the struct, and had to constantly go back to the
>>> macro definitions and count arguments to find it. Having it this
>>> way, each value is labeled clearly with the field it's in. I think
>>> the tradeoff between line count and readability here is worth it.
>> 
>> It is easier for multiple developers to work together if we have a 
>> common style.
>> 
>> How do you think?
>> 
> 
> In my opinion, Yassine is definitely right about this one: unrolling 
> these macros
> will make the code more readable, even though this has the side 
> effect of making
> it bigger in the source code form (obviously, when compiled, it's 
> going to be the
> exact same size).
> 
> I wouldn't mind getting this clock driver in without the usage of 
> macros, as much
> as I wouldn't mind converting all of the existing drivers to 
> open-code everything
> instead of using macros that you have to find in various headers... 
> this practice
> was done in multiple drivers (clock or elsewhere), so I don't think 
> that it would
> actually be a bad idea to do it here on MediaTek too, even though I'm 
> not aware of
> any *rule* that may want us to do that: if you check across 
> drivers/clk/*, there's
> a big split in how drivers are made, where some are using macros 
> (davinci, renesas,
> samsung, sprd, etc), and some are not (bcm, sunxi-ng, qcom, tegra, 
> versatile, etc),
> so it's really "do it as you wish"...
> 
> ... *but:*
> 
> Apart from that, I also don't think that it is a good idea to convert 
> the other
> MTK clock drivers right now, as this would make the upstreaming of 
> MediaTek clock
> drivers harder for some of the community in this moment... especially 
> when we look
> at how many MTK SoCs are out there in the wild, and how many we have 
> upstream:
> something like 10% of them, or less.
> 
> I see the huge benefit of having a bigger community around MediaTek 
> platforms as
> that's beneficial to get a way better support and solidity for all 
> SoCs as they
> are sharing the same drivers and same framework, and expanding the 
> support to more
> of them will only make it better with highly valuable community 
> contributions.
> 
> 
> That said, Yassine, you should've understood that you have my full 
> support on
> unrolling these macros - but it's not time to do that yet: you 
> definitely know
> that MediaTek clock drivers are going through a big cleanup phase 
> which is, at
> this point, unavoidable... if we are able to get the aid of scripts 
> (cocci and
> others), that will make our life easier in this cleanup, and will 
> also make us
> able to perform the entire cleanup with less effort and in less 
> overall time.
> 
> With that, I'm sad but I have to support Miles' decision on this one, 
> and I also
> have to ask you to use macros in this driver.
> 
> 
> I am sure - and it is my wish - to see MediaTek clock drivers 
> open-coding stuff
> instead of using macros, but that's something for the future - which 
> will happen
> after the more important cleanups.
> 
> After all, it will be just about running "gcc -E xxxx.c" and 
> copy-pasting the
> unrolled macros to the clock drivers, which will be pretty fast and 
> straightforward.
> 
> Sorry for the wall of text, by the way.
> 
> Cheers,
> Angelo

Fair enough. I'll switch to macros in the next version.

Thanks,
Yassine



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From: Yassine Oudjana <yassine.oudjana@gmail.com>
To: AngeloGioacchino Del Regno <angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>
Cc: Miles Chen <miles.chen@mediatek.com>,
	bgolaszewski@baylibre.com, chun-jie.chen@mediatek.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, ikjn@chromium.org,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	matthias.bgg@gmail.com, mturquette@baylibre.com,
	p.zabel@pengutronix.de, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	sam.shih@mediatek.com, sboyd@kernel.org,
	tinghan.shen@mediatek.com, weiyi.lu@mediatek.com,
	wenst@chromium.org, y.oudjana@protonmail.com,
	~postmarketos/upstreaming@lists.sr.ht
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] clk: mediatek: Add drivers for MediaTek MT6735 main clock drivers
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 15:08:26 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2MH6CR.16DFWCVHBCV@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7b98ee4-cd4f-d7b7-726d-1acd4fafd50a@collabora.com>


On Fri, May 20 2022 at 12:26:25 +0200, AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com> wrote:
> Il 20/05/22 11:35, Miles Chen ha scritto:
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for submitting this patch.
>>>> 
>>>> I compare this with drivers/clk/mediatek/clk-mt7986-apmixed.c,
>>>> and other clk files are using macros to make the mtk_pll_data array
>>>> more readable.
>>> 
>>> I'd actually argue that macros make it less readable. While reading
>>> other drivers I had a lot of trouble figuring out which argument
>>> is which field of the struct, and had to constantly go back to the
>>> macro definitions and count arguments to find it. Having it this
>>> way, each value is labeled clearly with the field it's in. I think
>>> the tradeoff between line count and readability here is worth it.
>> 
>> It is easier for multiple developers to work together if we have a 
>> common style.
>> 
>> How do you think?
>> 
> 
> In my opinion, Yassine is definitely right about this one: unrolling 
> these macros
> will make the code more readable, even though this has the side 
> effect of making
> it bigger in the source code form (obviously, when compiled, it's 
> going to be the
> exact same size).
> 
> I wouldn't mind getting this clock driver in without the usage of 
> macros, as much
> as I wouldn't mind converting all of the existing drivers to 
> open-code everything
> instead of using macros that you have to find in various headers... 
> this practice
> was done in multiple drivers (clock or elsewhere), so I don't think 
> that it would
> actually be a bad idea to do it here on MediaTek too, even though I'm 
> not aware of
> any *rule* that may want us to do that: if you check across 
> drivers/clk/*, there's
> a big split in how drivers are made, where some are using macros 
> (davinci, renesas,
> samsung, sprd, etc), and some are not (bcm, sunxi-ng, qcom, tegra, 
> versatile, etc),
> so it's really "do it as you wish"...
> 
> ... *but:*
> 
> Apart from that, I also don't think that it is a good idea to convert 
> the other
> MTK clock drivers right now, as this would make the upstreaming of 
> MediaTek clock
> drivers harder for some of the community in this moment... especially 
> when we look
> at how many MTK SoCs are out there in the wild, and how many we have 
> upstream:
> something like 10% of them, or less.
> 
> I see the huge benefit of having a bigger community around MediaTek 
> platforms as
> that's beneficial to get a way better support and solidity for all 
> SoCs as they
> are sharing the same drivers and same framework, and expanding the 
> support to more
> of them will only make it better with highly valuable community 
> contributions.
> 
> 
> That said, Yassine, you should've understood that you have my full 
> support on
> unrolling these macros - but it's not time to do that yet: you 
> definitely know
> that MediaTek clock drivers are going through a big cleanup phase 
> which is, at
> this point, unavoidable... if we are able to get the aid of scripts 
> (cocci and
> others), that will make our life easier in this cleanup, and will 
> also make us
> able to perform the entire cleanup with less effort and in less 
> overall time.
> 
> With that, I'm sad but I have to support Miles' decision on this one, 
> and I also
> have to ask you to use macros in this driver.
> 
> 
> I am sure - and it is my wish - to see MediaTek clock drivers 
> open-coding stuff
> instead of using macros, but that's something for the future - which 
> will happen
> after the more important cleanups.
> 
> After all, it will be just about running "gcc -E xxxx.c" and 
> copy-pasting the
> unrolled macros to the clock drivers, which will be pretty fast and 
> straightforward.
> 
> Sorry for the wall of text, by the way.
> 
> Cheers,
> Angelo

Fair enough. I'll switch to macros in the next version.

Thanks,
Yassine



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From: Yassine Oudjana <yassine.oudjana@gmail.com>
To: AngeloGioacchino Del Regno <angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>
Cc: Miles Chen <miles.chen@mediatek.com>,
	bgolaszewski@baylibre.com, chun-jie.chen@mediatek.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, ikjn@chromium.org,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	matthias.bgg@gmail.com, mturquette@baylibre.com,
	p.zabel@pengutronix.de, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	sam.shih@mediatek.com, sboyd@kernel.org,
	tinghan.shen@mediatek.com, weiyi.lu@mediatek.com,
	wenst@chromium.org, y.oudjana@protonmail.com,
	~postmarketos/upstreaming@lists.sr.ht
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] clk: mediatek: Add drivers for MediaTek MT6735 main clock drivers
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 15:08:26 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2MH6CR.16DFWCVHBCV@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7b98ee4-cd4f-d7b7-726d-1acd4fafd50a@collabora.com>


On Fri, May 20 2022 at 12:26:25 +0200, AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com> wrote:
> Il 20/05/22 11:35, Miles Chen ha scritto:
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for submitting this patch.
>>>> 
>>>> I compare this with drivers/clk/mediatek/clk-mt7986-apmixed.c,
>>>> and other clk files are using macros to make the mtk_pll_data array
>>>> more readable.
>>> 
>>> I'd actually argue that macros make it less readable. While reading
>>> other drivers I had a lot of trouble figuring out which argument
>>> is which field of the struct, and had to constantly go back to the
>>> macro definitions and count arguments to find it. Having it this
>>> way, each value is labeled clearly with the field it's in. I think
>>> the tradeoff between line count and readability here is worth it.
>> 
>> It is easier for multiple developers to work together if we have a 
>> common style.
>> 
>> How do you think?
>> 
> 
> In my opinion, Yassine is definitely right about this one: unrolling 
> these macros
> will make the code more readable, even though this has the side 
> effect of making
> it bigger in the source code form (obviously, when compiled, it's 
> going to be the
> exact same size).
> 
> I wouldn't mind getting this clock driver in without the usage of 
> macros, as much
> as I wouldn't mind converting all of the existing drivers to 
> open-code everything
> instead of using macros that you have to find in various headers... 
> this practice
> was done in multiple drivers (clock or elsewhere), so I don't think 
> that it would
> actually be a bad idea to do it here on MediaTek too, even though I'm 
> not aware of
> any *rule* that may want us to do that: if you check across 
> drivers/clk/*, there's
> a big split in how drivers are made, where some are using macros 
> (davinci, renesas,
> samsung, sprd, etc), and some are not (bcm, sunxi-ng, qcom, tegra, 
> versatile, etc),
> so it's really "do it as you wish"...
> 
> ... *but:*
> 
> Apart from that, I also don't think that it is a good idea to convert 
> the other
> MTK clock drivers right now, as this would make the upstreaming of 
> MediaTek clock
> drivers harder for some of the community in this moment... especially 
> when we look
> at how many MTK SoCs are out there in the wild, and how many we have 
> upstream:
> something like 10% of them, or less.
> 
> I see the huge benefit of having a bigger community around MediaTek 
> platforms as
> that's beneficial to get a way better support and solidity for all 
> SoCs as they
> are sharing the same drivers and same framework, and expanding the 
> support to more
> of them will only make it better with highly valuable community 
> contributions.
> 
> 
> That said, Yassine, you should've understood that you have my full 
> support on
> unrolling these macros - but it's not time to do that yet: you 
> definitely know
> that MediaTek clock drivers are going through a big cleanup phase 
> which is, at
> this point, unavoidable... if we are able to get the aid of scripts 
> (cocci and
> others), that will make our life easier in this cleanup, and will 
> also make us
> able to perform the entire cleanup with less effort and in less 
> overall time.
> 
> With that, I'm sad but I have to support Miles' decision on this one, 
> and I also
> have to ask you to use macros in this driver.
> 
> 
> I am sure - and it is my wish - to see MediaTek clock drivers 
> open-coding stuff
> instead of using macros, but that's something for the future - which 
> will happen
> after the more important cleanups.
> 
> After all, it will be just about running "gcc -E xxxx.c" and 
> copy-pasting the
> unrolled macros to the clock drivers, which will be pretty fast and 
> straightforward.
> 
> Sorry for the wall of text, by the way.
> 
> Cheers,
> Angelo

Fair enough. I'll switch to macros in the next version.

Thanks,
Yassine



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  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-20 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-19 14:22 [PATCH v2 0/4] Mediatek MT6735 main clock and reset drivers Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22 ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22 ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: clock: Add Mediatek MT6735 clock bindings Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22   ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22   ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] dt-bindings: reset: Add MT6735 reset bindings Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22   ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22   ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-20  8:55   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-05-20  8:55     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-05-20  8:55     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-05-20  9:13     ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-20  9:13       ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-20  9:13       ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-23 12:15       ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-05-23 12:15         ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-05-23 12:15         ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-05-19 14:22 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] dt-bindings: arm: mediatek: Add MT6735 clock controller compatibles Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22   ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22   ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] clk: mediatek: Add drivers for MediaTek MT6735 main clock drivers Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22   ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-19 14:22   ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-20  8:35   ` Miles Chen
2022-05-20  8:35     ` Miles Chen
2022-05-20  8:35     ` Miles Chen
2022-05-20  9:18     ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-20  9:18       ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-20  9:18       ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-20  9:35       ` Miles Chen
2022-05-20  9:35         ` Miles Chen
2022-05-20  9:35         ` Miles Chen
2022-05-20 10:26         ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-05-20 10:26           ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-05-20 10:26           ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-05-20 11:08           ` Yassine Oudjana [this message]
2022-05-20 11:08             ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-20 11:08             ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-05-22 17:02           ` Miles Chen
2022-05-22 17:02             ` Miles Chen
2022-05-22 17:02             ` Miles Chen
2022-08-13 10:44           ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-08-13 10:44             ` Yassine Oudjana
2022-08-29  9:31             ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-08-29  9:31               ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno

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