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From: Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>, Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Multiple network connections for a single NFS mount.
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 08:55:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <307dbdb1-3cbe-0c7c-fa16-39cd4641dd98@talpey.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ftofwx3n.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

On 6/11/2019 6:55 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11 2019, Tom Talpey wrote:
> 
>> On 6/11/2019 5:10 PM, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> ...
>>>
>>> Solaris has it, Microsoft has it and linux has been deprived of it,
>>> let's join the party.
>>
>> Let me be clear about one thing - SMB3 has it because the protocol
>> is designed for it. Multichannel leverages SMB2 sessions to allow
>> retransmit on any active bound connection. NFSv4.1 (and later) have
>> a similar capability.
>>
>> NFSv2 and NFSv3, however, do not, and I've already stated my concerns
>> about pushing them too far. I agree with your sentiment, but for these
>> protocols, please bear in mind the risks.
> 
> NFSv2 and NFSv3 were designed to work with UDP.  That works a lot like
> one-connection-per-message.   I don't think there is any reason to think
> NFSv2,3 would have any problems with multiple connections.

Sorry, but are you saying NFS over UDP works? It does not. There
are 10- and 20-year old reports of this.

NFSv2 was designed in the 1980's. NFSv3 came to be in 1992. Do
you truly want to spend your time fixing 30 year old protocols?

Ok, I'll be quiet now. :-)

Tom.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-12 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-30  0:41 [PATCH 0/9] Multiple network connections for a single NFS mount NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 2/9] SUNRPC: Allow creation of RPC clients with multiple connections NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 9/9] NFS: Allow multiple connections to a NFSv2 or NFSv3 server NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 4/9] SUNRPC: enhance rpc_clnt_show_stats() to report on all xprts NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 5/9] SUNRPC: add links for all client xprts to debugfs NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 3/9] NFS: send state management on a single connection NeilBrown
2019-07-23 18:11   ` Schumaker, Anna
2019-07-23 22:54     ` NeilBrown
2019-07-31  2:05     ` [PATCH] NFS: add flags arg to nfs4_call_sync_sequence() NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 8/9] pNFS: Allow multiple connections to the DS NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 1/9] SUNRPC: Add basic load balancing to the transport switch NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 7/9] NFSv4: Allow multiple connections to NFSv4.x servers NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 6/9] NFS: Add a mount option to specify number of TCP connections to use NeilBrown
2019-05-30 17:05 ` [PATCH 0/9] Multiple network connections for a single NFS mount Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 17:20   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-05-30 17:41     ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 18:41       ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-05-31  1:45         ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 22:38       ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31  1:48         ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-31  2:31           ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31 12:39             ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 23:53     ` Rick Macklem
2019-05-31  0:15       ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-31  1:01       ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31  2:20         ` Rick Macklem
2019-05-31 12:36           ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-31 13:33             ` Trond Myklebust
2019-05-30 17:56 ` Chuck Lever
2019-05-30 18:59   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-05-30 22:56   ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31 13:46     ` Chuck Lever
2019-05-31 15:38       ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-06-11  1:09       ` NeilBrown
2019-06-11 14:51         ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 15:05           ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 15:20           ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-11 15:35             ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 16:41               ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-11 17:32                 ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 17:44                   ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-12 12:34                     ` Steve Dickson
2019-06-12 12:47                       ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-12 13:10                         ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-11 15:34           ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-06-11 17:46             ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 19:13               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-06-11 20:02                 ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 20:09                   ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 21:10                     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-06-11 21:35                       ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 22:55                         ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 12:55                           ` Tom Talpey [this message]
2019-06-11 23:02                       ` NeilBrown
2019-06-11 23:21                   ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 12:52                     ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 23:42               ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 12:39                 ` Steve Dickson
2019-06-12 17:36                 ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-12 23:03                   ` NeilBrown
2019-06-13 16:13                     ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-12  1:49           ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 18:32             ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-12 23:37               ` NeilBrown
2019-06-13 16:27                 ` Chuck Lever
2019-05-31  0:24 ` J. Bruce Fields

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