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From: Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu>
To: Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>, Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Schumaker Anna <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	linux-nfs <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Multiple network connections for a single NFS mount.
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 13:20:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN-5tyHUah=fAsiSLb=n__q5HxRy3qeS83evf-vB59r4cpYgsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1df23ebc-ffe5-1a57-c40a-d5e9a45c8498@talpey.com>

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:05 PM Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/29/2019 8:41 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> > I've also re-arrange the patches a bit, merged two, and remove the
> > restriction to TCP and NFSV4.x,x>=1.  Discussions seemed to suggest
> > these restrictions were not needed, I can see no need.
>
> I believe the need is for the correctness of retries. Because NFSv2,
> NFSv3 and NFSv4.0 have no exactly-once semantics of their own, server
> duplicate request caches are important (although often imperfect).
> These caches use client XID's, source ports and addresses, sometimes
> in addition to other methods, to detect retry. Existing clients are
> careful to reconnect with the same source port, to ensure this. And
> existing servers won't change.

Retries are already bound to the same connection so there shouldn't be
an issue of a retransmission coming from a different source port.

> Multiple connections will result in multiple source ports, and possibly
> multiple source addresses, meaning retried client requests may be
> accepted as new, rather than having any chance of being recognized as
> retries.
>
> NFSv4.1+ don't have this issue, but removing the restrictions would
> seem to break the downlevel mounts.
>
> Tom.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-30 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-30  0:41 [PATCH 0/9] Multiple network connections for a single NFS mount NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 2/9] SUNRPC: Allow creation of RPC clients with multiple connections NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 9/9] NFS: Allow multiple connections to a NFSv2 or NFSv3 server NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 4/9] SUNRPC: enhance rpc_clnt_show_stats() to report on all xprts NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 5/9] SUNRPC: add links for all client xprts to debugfs NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 3/9] NFS: send state management on a single connection NeilBrown
2019-07-23 18:11   ` Schumaker, Anna
2019-07-23 22:54     ` NeilBrown
2019-07-31  2:05     ` [PATCH] NFS: add flags arg to nfs4_call_sync_sequence() NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 8/9] pNFS: Allow multiple connections to the DS NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 1/9] SUNRPC: Add basic load balancing to the transport switch NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 7/9] NFSv4: Allow multiple connections to NFSv4.x servers NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 6/9] NFS: Add a mount option to specify number of TCP connections to use NeilBrown
2019-05-30 17:05 ` [PATCH 0/9] Multiple network connections for a single NFS mount Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 17:20   ` Olga Kornievskaia [this message]
2019-05-30 17:41     ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 18:41       ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-05-31  1:45         ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 22:38       ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31  1:48         ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-31  2:31           ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31 12:39             ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 23:53     ` Rick Macklem
2019-05-31  0:15       ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-31  1:01       ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31  2:20         ` Rick Macklem
2019-05-31 12:36           ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-31 13:33             ` Trond Myklebust
2019-05-30 17:56 ` Chuck Lever
2019-05-30 18:59   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-05-30 22:56   ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31 13:46     ` Chuck Lever
2019-05-31 15:38       ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-06-11  1:09       ` NeilBrown
2019-06-11 14:51         ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 15:05           ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 15:20           ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-11 15:35             ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 16:41               ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-11 17:32                 ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 17:44                   ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-12 12:34                     ` Steve Dickson
2019-06-12 12:47                       ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-12 13:10                         ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-11 15:34           ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-06-11 17:46             ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 19:13               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-06-11 20:02                 ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 20:09                   ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 21:10                     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-06-11 21:35                       ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 22:55                         ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 12:55                           ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 23:02                       ` NeilBrown
2019-06-11 23:21                   ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 12:52                     ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 23:42               ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 12:39                 ` Steve Dickson
2019-06-12 17:36                 ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-12 23:03                   ` NeilBrown
2019-06-13 16:13                     ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-12  1:49           ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 18:32             ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-12 23:37               ` NeilBrown
2019-06-13 16:27                 ` Chuck Lever
2019-05-31  0:24 ` J. Bruce Fields

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