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From: Alexander Stein <alexander.stein@systec-electronic.com>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: "linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	Linux Input <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gpiolib: handle probe deferrals better
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 15:42:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3233696.TZ7kbb7G3F@ws-stein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdaynNEFGhCSkd7qAgxtNoRT=pRWbB0dJmjM89UM4NG_xQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday 01 April 2016 15:03:40, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Alexander Stein
> 
> <alexander.stein@systec-electronic.com> wrote:
> > I noticed you fiddle with late_initcall_sync. Sorry, I did not mention it:
> > gpio_mcp23s08 as well as gpio_keys are loaded as modules, so
> > late_initcall_* should not affect it.
> 
> I don't get this. I think probe deferral is only used to defer
> initcalls used for built-in drivers.

To my understanding probe deferral is for the case when the parent or some 
other required resource like DT nodes (e.g. panel node for graphics driver) is 
not available yet. IIRC all deffered device are probed once a device was 
probed sucessfully, no?
So in my case, I would expect that gpio-keys probe fails due to missing IRQ 
parent and gets deferred. Once the IRQ parent happen to be probed successfully 
at some point gpio-keys is probed again and succeeds.

> If there are dependencies among things compiled as modules,
> doesn't depmod/modprobe make sure that they are probed in
> the right order? Could it be that some module alias thingofabob
> is missing?
> 
> Or is modprobe failing because it (correctly) see that there is
> no symbol dependencies between the gpio_mcp23s08 and
> gpio-keys modules? (Not that I know how depmod works...)

I don't think modprobe can or even should do any dependencies here.
Consider the following cascading GPIO chips:

 /-------\                /---------\                 /--------\
|         |               |         |                |          |
|MCP23S17 + Pin1 <--> IRQ-+ PCA9555 + Pin 1 <--> IRQ + MCP23S17 + 
|         |               |         |                |          |
 \-------/                 \-------/                  \--------/

Probing should still work for this scenario. This is something modprobe cannot 
fix.

> If nothing else works, I guess marking mcp23s08 as bool
> and building it into the kernel will work, right?

This would merely be a workaround and I guess there might be scenarios and/or 
random device probing where even this fails.

Best regards,
Alexander


  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-01 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-01 11:44 [PATCH] gpiolib: handle probe deferrals better Linus Walleij
2016-04-01 12:16 ` Alexander Stein
2016-04-01 13:03   ` Linus Walleij
2016-04-01 13:42     ` Alexander Stein [this message]
2016-04-01 14:03       ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-01 14:35         ` Alexander Stein
2016-04-01 14:04     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-04-01 17:52     ` Bjorn Andersson
2016-04-01 12:42 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-04-01 13:28 ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-04 16:21   ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-06 13:39     ` Linus Walleij
2016-04-06 15:42       ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-07 17:09         ` Linus Walleij
2016-04-11  6:10           ` Alexander Stein

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