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From: "Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>
To: "GitList" <git@vger.kernel.org>, "Marc Branchaud" <marcnarc@xiplink.com>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/8] doc: give headings for the two and three dot notations
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 22:41:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37D91D4F45C6444792E9B9205EF88BE1@PhilipOakley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5784F43E.3080400@xiplink.com

From: "Marc Branchaud" <marcnarc@xiplink.com>
> On 2016-07-11 04:25 PM, Philip Oakley wrote:
>> While there, also break out the other shorthand notations and
>> add a title for the revision range summary (which also appears
>> in git-rev-parse, so keep it mixed case).
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org>
>> ---
>>   Documentation/revisions.txt | 23 +++++++++++++++++------
>>   1 file changed, 17 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/revisions.txt b/Documentation/revisions.txt
>> index 79f6d03..1c59e87 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/revisions.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/revisions.txt
>> @@ -242,35 +242,46 @@ specifying a single revision with the notation 
>> described in the
>>   previous section means the set of commits reachable from that
>>   commit, following the commit ancestry chain.
>>
>> +The '{caret}' (caret) notation
>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>   To exclude commits reachable from a commit, a prefix '{caret}'
>>   notation is used.  E.g. '{caret}r1 r2' means commits reachable
>>   from 'r2' but exclude the ones reachable from 'r1'.
>
> All of these headings render poorly in the manpage, at least for me 
> (Ubuntu 16.04).  Only the first word appears in bold; the '-quoted text is 
> not bold but underlined, and the rest of the header is plain.

Which doc package is that with? It had formatted OK for the html web pages.

>
>
> Also, I think calling this "The ^ notation" is confusing, because there's 
> already an earlier paragraph on the "<rev>^" syntax.

Yes, I noticed that after sending. Maybe "^<rev>" (i.e. include the <rev> 
part) to show that its a prefix not a suffix

>
> Maybe we don't need a header here?  I only suggest that because I'm having 
> trouble coming up with a nice alternative.  "Commit Exclusion"?
>

Part of the earlier discussions as about avoiding new termininologies just 
for the sake of it.

>>
>> -This set operation appears so often that there is a shorthand
>> +The '..' (two-dot) range notation
>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Perhaps "Range notation", to mirror the capitalization of "Symmetric 
> Difference" in the next header?


OK
>
>> +The '{caret}r1 r2' set operation appears so often that there is a 
>> shorthand
>>   for it.  When you have two commits 'r1' and 'r2' (named according
>>   to the syntax explained in SPECIFYING REVISIONS above), you can ask
>>   for commits that are reachable from r2 excluding those that are 
>> reachable
>>   from r1 by '{caret}r1 r2' and it can be written as 'r1..r2'.
>>
>> +The '...' (three dot) Symmetric Difference notation
>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>   A similar notation 'r1\...r2' is called symmetric difference
>>   of 'r1' and 'r2' and is defined as
>>   'r1 r2 --not $(git merge-base --all r1 r2)'.
>>   It is the set of commits that are reachable from either one of
>>   'r1' (Left side) or 'r2' (Right side) but not from both.
>>
>> -In these two shorthands, you can omit one end and let it default to 
>> HEAD.
>> +In these two shorthand notations, you can omit one end and let it 
>> default to HEAD.
>>   For example, 'origin..' is a shorthand for 'origin..HEAD' and asks 
>> "What
>>   did I do since I forked from the origin branch?"  Similarly, '..origin'
>>   is a shorthand for 'HEAD..origin' and asks "What did the origin do 
>> since
>>   I forked from them?"  Note that '..' would mean 'HEAD..HEAD' which is 
>> an
>>   empty range that is both reachable and unreachable from HEAD.
>
> Unfortunately the new headings make it appear that this paragraph is 
> exclusively part of the '...' notation section.  Folks reading the '..' 
> section are likely to skip it.

OK

>
> I like the examples, though.  I think it would be worthwhile to remove 
> this paragraph and fold it explicitly into the '..' and '...' notation 
> sections.
>
> So add something like this to the '..' section (only the first sentence 
> here is new):
>
> Either r1 or r2 can be omitted, in which case HEAD is used as
> the default.  For example, 'origin..' is a shorthand for
> 'origin..HEAD' and asks "What did I do since I forked from the
> origin branch?"  Similarly, '..origin' is a shorthand for
> 'HEAD..origin' and asks "What did the origin do since I forked
> from them?"  Note that '..' would mean 'HEAD..HEAD' which is an
> empty range that is both reachable and unreachable from HEAD.
>
> And also, add the same first sentence and a different example to the '...' 
> section.  Something like this:
>
> Either r1 or r2 can be omitted, in which case HEAD is used as
> the default.  For example, 'origin...' is a shorthand for
> 'origin...HEAD' and asks "What have I and origin both done
> since I forked from the origin branch?"  Note that 'origin...'
> and '...origin' ask the same question.
>
>>
>> +Additional '{caret}' Shorthand notations
>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>   Two other shorthands for naming a set that is formed by a commit
>> -and its parent commits exist.  The 'r1{caret}@' notation means all
>> -parents of 'r1'.  'r1{caret}!' includes commit 'r1' but excludes
>> -all of its parents.
>> +and its parent commits exist.
>
> I think descriptions of <rev>^@ and <rev>^! should live under the main 
> description of <rev>^.  That part already describes the numeric suffix, so 
> describing a couple of special suffixes there seems like a natural fit.

Isn't it that these are ranges of commits, rather than a single commit, so 
would go in this part of the docs, but I see your point.

>
> However, if you choose to keep this little section, you need to move the 
> word "exist" earlier in the sentence:

OK.
>
> Two other shorthands exist for naming a set that is formed
> by a commit and its parent commits.
>
>>
>> -To summarize:
>> +The 'r1{caret}@' notation means all parents of 'r1'.
>> +
>> +'r1{caret}!' includes commit 'r1' but excludes all of its parents.
>> +
>> +Revision Range Summary
>> +----------------------
>
> I think this should be a sub-heading (~~~~~~~), not a top-level heading.
>

In the contect of the other pages it's included in, the use of lower case, 
is the next down level. ALL CAPS would be the top level heading.

I'll review.
--
Philip 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-12 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-22  7:25 name for A..B ranges? Philip Oakley
2016-06-24 16:09 ` Jeff King
2016-06-24 16:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-25 13:50     ` Philip Oakley
2016-06-25 16:46       ` [PATCH 0/2] " Philip Oakley
2016-06-25 16:46         ` [PATCH 1/2] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-06-25 16:46         ` [PATCH 2/2] doc: give headings for the two and three dot notations Philip Oakley
2016-06-25 18:47         ` [PATCH] doc: show the actual left, right, and boundary marks Philip Oakley
2016-06-30 20:25         ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Name for A..B ranges? Philip Oakley
2016-06-30 20:25           ` [PATCH v2 1/4] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-06-30 20:25           ` [PATCH v2 2/4] doc: show the actual left, right, and boundary marks Philip Oakley
2016-06-30 20:25           ` [PATCH v2 3/4] doc: give headings for the two and three dot notations Philip Oakley
2016-06-30 20:25           ` [PATCH v2 4/4] doc: clarify that `^r1` will exclude `r1` itself Philip Oakley
2016-07-01 21:16             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01 22:08               ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-01 22:14                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01 23:01                   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-10 21:17                     ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-01 21:27           ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Name for A..B ranges? Junio C Hamano
2016-07-11 20:25           ` [PATCH v3 0/8] " Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25             ` [PATCH v3 1/8] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25             ` [PATCH v3 2/8] doc: revisions - name the Left and Right sides Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 16:47               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12 21:47                 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25             ` [PATCH v3 3/8] doc: show the actual left, right, and boundary marks Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25             ` [PATCH v3 4/8] doc: give headings for the two and three dot notations Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 13:44               ` Marc Branchaud
2016-07-12 17:04                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12 22:11                   ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-19 16:03                     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-19 19:15                       ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 21:41                 ` Philip Oakley [this message]
2016-07-12 22:12                   ` Jeff King
2016-07-11 20:25             ` [PATCH v3 5/8] doc: gitrevisions - use 'reachable' in page description Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25             ` [PATCH v3 6/8] doc: gitrevisions - clarify 'latter case' is revision walk Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25             ` [PATCH v3 7/8] doc: revisions - define `reachable` Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 13:48               ` Marc Branchaud
2016-07-12 21:44                 ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-11 20:25             ` [PATCH v3 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify reachability examples Philip Oakley
2016-07-12 19:29             ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Name for A..B ranges? Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12 22:29               ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v4 " Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10               ` [PATCH v4 1/8] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10               ` [PATCH v4 2/8] doc: revisions - name the left and right sides Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10               ` [PATCH v4 3/8] doc: show the actual left, right, and boundary marks Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10               ` [PATCH v4 4/8] doc: give headings for the two and three dot notations Philip Oakley
2016-07-21 14:42                 ` Marc Branchaud
2016-07-21 19:54                   ` Philip Oakley
2016-07-21 21:20                     ` Marc Branchaud
2016-07-22 22:46                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-20 21:10               ` [PATCH v4 5/8] doc: gitrevisions - use 'reachable' in page description Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10               ` [PATCH v4 6/8] doc: gitrevisions - clarify 'latter case' is revision walk Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10               ` [PATCH v4 7/8] doc: revisions - define `reachable` Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 21:10               ` [PATCH v4 8/8] doc: revisions - clarify reachability examples Philip Oakley
2016-07-20 22:22               ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Name for A..B ranges? Junio C Hamano
2016-08-11 21:50               ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Philip Oakley
2016-08-11 21:50                 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-08-26 11:33                   ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-26 16:09                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-11 22:32                 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 23:45                 ` [PATCH v6 " Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 23:45                   ` [PATCH v6 05/12] doc: revisions: extra clarification of <rev>^! notation effects Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 23:45                   ` [PATCH v6 06/12] doc: revisions: single vs multi-parent notation comparison Philip Oakley
2016-08-26 15:30                     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-26 16:19                       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-12 23:45                   ` [PATCH v6 11/12] doc: revisions: show revision expansion in examples Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 23:45                   ` [PATCH v6 12/12] doc: revisions: sort examples and fix alignment of the unchanged Philip Oakley
2016-08-15 14:30                   ` [PATCH v6 00/12] Update git revisions Marc Branchaud
2016-08-15 15:00                     ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-15 16:55                       ` BUG: indent-with-non-tab always on (was: Re: [PATCH v6 00/12] Update git revisions) Marc Branchaud
2016-08-15 17:54                         ` BUG: indent-with-non-tab always on Marc Branchaud
2016-08-15 17:06                     ` [PATCH v6 00/12] Update git revisions Junio C Hamano
2016-08-31 16:22                   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-11 23:03               ` [PATCH v5 " Philip Oakley
2016-08-11 23:03                 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07               ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] doc: use 'symmetric difference' consistently Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] doc: revisions - name the left and right sides Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] doc: show the actual left, right, and boundary marks Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] doc: revisions: give headings for the two and three dot notations Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:10                   ` Jeff King
2016-08-12 14:37                   ` Marc Branchaud
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] doc: revisions: extra clarification of <rev>^! notation effects Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 14:39                   ` Marc Branchaud
2016-08-12 22:17                     ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] doc: revisions: single vs multi-parent notation comparison Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 14:40                   ` Marc Branchaud
2016-08-12 22:23                     ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] doc: gitrevisions - use 'reachable' in page description Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] doc: gitrevisions - clarify 'latter case' is revision walk Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] doc: revisions - define `reachable` Philip Oakley
2016-08-28 13:01                   ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-29 13:21                     ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-29 14:43                       ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-29 19:27                         ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] doc: revisions - clarify reachability examples Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] doc: revisions: show revision expansion in examples Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 15:22                   ` Marc Branchaud
2016-08-12 22:45                     ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-12  7:07                 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] doc: revisions: sort examples and fix alignment of the unchanged Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 15:28                 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Update git revisions Marc Branchaud
2016-08-12 19:20                   ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-12 21:27                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-25 19:49       ` name for A..B ranges? Junio C Hamano
2016-06-27 13:37         ` Philip Oakley
2016-06-27 15:08           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-27 15:39             ` Philip Oakley

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