RE: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

RE: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

[Grover, Andrew]

> From: Eric Valette [mailto:eric.valette-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org] 
> I happily run 2.4.21-pre5 with ACPI enabled and everything works just 
> fine. I tried today 2.6-pre1 with exactly the same hardware 
> configuration as the 2.4 one and the laptop does not boot. It hangs 
> while dispaying : "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods" 
> allthough it has already printed several '.'

That's weird. They should have the same version of the ACPI code...

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RE: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

[Grover, Andrew]

> From: Eric Valette [mailto:eric.valette@free.fr] 
> I happily run 2.4.21-pre5 with ACPI enabled and everything works just 
> fine. I tried today 2.6-pre1 with exactly the same hardware 
> configuration as the 2.4 one and the laptop does not boot. It hangs 
> while dispaying : "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods" 
> allthough it has already printed several '.'

That's weird. They should have the same version of the ACPI code...

-- Andy

Re: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

[Eric Valette]

Grover, Andrew wrote:
>>From: Eric Valette [mailto:eric.valette-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org] 
>>I happily run 2.4.21-pre5 with ACPI enabled and everything works just 
>>fine. I tried today 2.6-pre1 with exactly the same hardware 
>>configuration as the 2.4 one and the laptop does not boot. It hangs 
>>while dispaying : "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods" 
>>allthough it has already printed several '.'
> 
> 
> That's weird. They should have the same version of the ACPI code...

Thanks for responding. Note I have never seen such messages on 2.4 so...

FYI : I tested today with the latest version 0714 and it doesn't change 
  anything... 2.4.22-pre6 + the patch works fine... Someone suggested 
problem with the APIC but its enabled in 2.4...

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Re: Re: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

[Karol Kozimor]

Thus wrote Eric Valette:
> >That's weird. They should have the same version of the ACPI code...
> Thanks for responding. Note I have never seen such messages on 2.4 so...
> 
> FYI : I tested today with the latest version 0714 and it doesn't change 
>  anything... 2.4.22-pre6 + the patch works fine... Someone suggested 
> problem with the APIC but its enabled in 2.4...

That's how it works for me on the same machine: if APIC and IO-APIC is
compiled in, the kernel hangs at the place you mentioned. noapic doesn't
help, acpi=off does, as well as not compiling APIC in at all.

According to my experience, APIC should not work under 2.4.x and 2.5.x 
where x < 74, since it is magically disabled by BIOS and the kernel doesn't
know anything about it. Do you have any evidence that APIC works at all 
on these kernels?

Best regards,

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Re: Re: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

[Nils Faerber]

Am Die, 2003-07-15 um 23.20 schrieb Karol Kozimor:
> Thus wrote Eric Valette:
> > >That's weird. They should have the same version of the ACPI code...
> > Thanks for responding. Note I have never seen such messages on 2.4 so...
> > FYI : I tested today with the latest version 0714 and it doesn't change 
> >  anything... 2.4.22-pre6 + the patch works fine... Someone suggested 
> > problem with the APIC but its enabled in 2.4...
> That's how it works for me on the same machine: if APIC and IO-APIC is
> compiled in, the kernel hangs at the place you mentioned. noapic doesn't
> help, acpi=off does, as well as not compiling APIC in at all.
> 
> According to my experience, APIC should not work under 2.4.x and 2.5.x 
> where x < 74, since it is magically disabled by BIOS and the kernel doesn't
> know anything about it. Do you have any evidence that APIC works at all 
> on these kernels?

Even worse, APIC does not work at all on those machines.
I tried by bashing the kernel, re-enabling it etc.
Afterwards you'll get a system that boots sometimes (!) with APIC,
sometime does not boot at all. You will get the APIC but not IO-APIC
which is what I was looking for to get more IRQs than 16 (silly me :)

So not compiling APIC support on those machines is no loss.

> Best regards,
CU
  nils faerber

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Re: Re: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

[Eric Valette]

Nils Faerber wrote:
> Am Die, 2003-07-15 um 23.20 schrieb Karol Kozimor:
> 
>>Thus wrote Eric Valette:
>>
>>>>That's weird. They should have the same version of the ACPI code...
>>>
>>>Thanks for responding. Note I have never seen such messages on 2.4 so...
>>>FYI : I tested today with the latest version 0714 and it doesn't change 
>>> anything... 2.4.22-pre6 + the patch works fine... Someone suggested 
>>>problem with the APIC but its enabled in 2.4...
>>
>>That's how it works for me on the same machine: if APIC and IO-APIC is
>>compiled in, the kernel hangs at the place you mentioned. noapic doesn't
>>help, acpi=off does, as well as not compiling APIC in at all.
>>
>>According to my experience, APIC should not work under 2.4.x and 2.5.x 
>>where x < 74, since it is magically disabled by BIOS and the kernel doesn't
>>know anything about it. Do you have any evidence that APIC works at all 
>>on these kernels?
> 
> 
> Even worse, APIC does not work at all on those machines.
> I tried by bashing the kernel, re-enabling it etc.
> Afterwards you'll get a system that boots sometimes (!) with APIC,
> sometime does not boot at all. You will get the APIC but not IO-APIC
> which is what I was looking for to get more IRQs than 16 (silly me :)
> 
> So not compiling APIC support on those machines is no loss.

So OK, I will back out I/OAPIC but frankly the fact that the kernel lock
is a real problem. Think a minute to all people converting their 2.4 
config like I did...


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Re: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

[Eric Valette]

Grover, Andrew wrote:
>>From: Eric Valette [mailto:eric.valette-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org] 
>>I happily run 2.4.21-pre5 with ACPI enabled and everything works just 
>>fine. I tried today 2.6-pre1 with exactly the same hardware 
>>configuration as the 2.4 one and the laptop does not boot. It hangs 
>>while dispaying : "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods" 
>>allthough it has already printed several '.'
> 
> 
> That's weird. They should have the same version of the ACPI code...


Just to try to help, as suggested by Karol Kasimor, disabling the APIC 
make the code pass this section. The APIC is now really unconditionnaly 
enabled (regardless of BIOS settings) due to this change in 2.5.74...

<http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Jun/5840.html>

So this is an interaction between APIC and ACPI... I still think it 
should not crash at least...

BTW : I still cannot boot as the radeon framebuffer driver make things 
unreable. I will stcik with 2.4 for a while...

-- eric

Re: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

[Eric Valette]

Grover, Andrew wrote:
>>From: Eric Valette [mailto:eric.valette@free.fr] 
>>I happily run 2.4.21-pre5 with ACPI enabled and everything works just 
>>fine. I tried today 2.6-pre1 with exactly the same hardware 
>>configuration as the 2.4 one and the laptop does not boot. It hangs 
>>while dispaying : "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods" 
>>allthough it has already printed several '.'
> 
> 
> That's weird. They should have the same version of the ACPI code...


Just to try to help, as suggested by Karol Kasimor, disabling the APIC 
make the code pass this section. The APIC is now really unconditionnaly 
enabled (regardless of BIOS settings) due to this change in 2.5.74...

<http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Jun/5840.html>

So this is an interaction between APIC and ACPI... I still think it 
should not crash at least...

BTW : I still cannot boot as the radeon framebuffer driver make things 
unreable. I will stcik with 2.4 for a while...

-- eric

Re: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

[Karol Kozimor]

Thus wrote Eric Valette:
> BTW : I still cannot boot as the radeon framebuffer driver make things 
> unreable. I will stcik with 2.4 for a while...

Boot the framebuffer into 1024x768@60 mode, every other I tried simply
doesn't work.
Best regards,

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sziwan-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org

Re: Linux 2.6-pre1 Does not boot on ASUS L3800C: lock up in acpi while "Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

[Karol Kozimor]

Thus wrote Eric Valette:
> BTW : I still cannot boot as the radeon framebuffer driver make things 
> unreable. I will stcik with 2.4 for a while...

Boot the framebuffer into 1024x768@60 mode, every other I tried simply
doesn't work.
Best regards,

-- 
Karol 'sziwan' Kozimor
sziwan@hell.org.pl

[PATCH] Linux 2.6-pre-mm2 Fix crash on boot on ASUS L3800C if enabing APIC => add this machine to DMI black list

[Eric Valette]

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The following patch integrated in 2.5.74,

<http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Jun/5840.html>

really enables the APIC even if BIOS disabled it. Unfortunately, 
enabling APIC really does not seem to work on this ASUS laptop and ACPI 
(which is mandatory) crash the kernel in ACPI code at boot time while 
"Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

Unless someones find a bug in ACPI code related to APIC management, It 
is safer to add this machine in the DMI black list (along with DELL, 
IBM, ...).

So, as suggested by the author of the problematic change, I added and 
entry in the DMI black list. But my guess is that most laptop will soon 
be present in this list....

-- eric

[-- Attachment #2: dmi_scan_black_list --]
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--- linux-2.6.0-test1/arch/i386/kernel/dmi_scan.c.orig	2003-07-20 17:09:10.000000000 +0200
+++ linux-2.6.0-test1/arch/i386/kernel/dmi_scan.c	2003-07-20 21:25:02.000000000 +0200
@@ -706,6 +706,12 @@
 			NO_MATCH, NO_MATCH
 			} },
 
+	{ local_apic_kills_bios, "ASUS L3C", {
+			MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VENDOR, "ASUSTeK Computer INC."),
+			MATCH(DMI_BOARD_NAME, "P4_L3C"),
+			NO_MATCH, NO_MATCH
+			} },
+
 	/* Problem Intel 440GX bioses */
 
 	{ broken_pirq, "SABR1 Bios", {			/* Bad $PIR */

[PATCH] Linux 2.6-pre-mm2 Fix crash on boot on ASUS L3800C if enabing APIC => add this machine to DMI black list

[Eric Valette]

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The following patch integrated in 2.5.74,

<http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Jun/5840.html>

really enables the APIC even if BIOS disabled it. Unfortunately, 
enabling APIC really does not seem to work on this ASUS laptop and ACPI 
(which is mandatory) crash the kernel in ACPI code at boot time while 
"Executing all Devices _STA and_INIT methods"

Unless someones find a bug in ACPI code related to APIC management, It 
is safer to add this machine in the DMI black list (along with DELL, 
IBM, ...).

So, as suggested by the author of the problematic change, I added and 
entry in the DMI black list. But my guess is that most laptop will soon 
be present in this list....

-- eric

[-- Attachment #2: dmi_scan_black_list --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --]

--- linux-2.6.0-test1/arch/i386/kernel/dmi_scan.c.orig	2003-07-20 17:09:10.000000000 +0200
+++ linux-2.6.0-test1/arch/i386/kernel/dmi_scan.c	2003-07-20 21:25:02.000000000 +0200
@@ -706,6 +706,12 @@
 			NO_MATCH, NO_MATCH
 			} },
 
+	{ local_apic_kills_bios, "ASUS L3C", {
+			MATCH(DMI_BOARD_VENDOR, "ASUSTeK Computer INC."),
+			MATCH(DMI_BOARD_NAME, "P4_L3C"),
+			NO_MATCH, NO_MATCH
+			} },
+
 	/* Problem Intel 440GX bioses */
 
 	{ broken_pirq, "SABR1 Bios", {			/* Bad $PIR */