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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Dominik Brugger <ml.dominik83@gmx.net>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: OHCI problems with suspend/resume
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:16:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F22EFAD.4020207@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030726210123.GD266@elf.ucw.cz>

Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> 
>>>>I'm not sure how the design is intended to work, but either way something 
>>>>needs to be fixed.
>>
>>Yes, it seems like all the HCDs (and the hub driver) need attention.
> 
> 
> Why the hub driver?
> 
> For basic functionality, you simply power it down (doing virtual
> unplug), and power it back up on resume (doing virtual plug of all
> devices). That should work reasonably for everything but mass-storage.

For non-basic functionality such as "remote wakeup", where you
can wake the system up from its suspension by doing things like
typing on the USB keyboard.


>>Plus, the enumeration process should respect hubs' power budgets,
>>and handle overcurrent better.  I had a hub re-enumerate over forty
>>times not that long ago, just because it enabled too many things at
>>once and the surge currents made lots of trouble.  Plenty of power,
>>if it got turned on carefully enough... :)
> 
> 
> Havin enough juice in "common case", but not in "worst case" is not
> too legal situation, is it?

This was a perfectly legal configuration, with what I recall as
four devices.  It was pretty far from "worst case".

- Dave



  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-26 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-23 22:08 OHCI problems with suspend/resume Pavel Machek
2003-07-24  1:19 ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2003-07-24 10:24   ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-24 17:10     ` David Brownell
2003-07-24 22:10       ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-24 12:37 ` Dominik Brugger
2003-07-24 12:56   ` Dominik Brugger
2003-07-24 22:04   ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-24 22:46   ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-25  7:52     ` Dominik Brugger
2003-07-25 15:06       ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2003-07-25 17:20         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-07-25 22:48           ` David Brownell
2003-07-26 16:02             ` Alan Stern
2003-07-26 21:01             ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-26 21:16               ` David Brownell [this message]
2003-07-27 14:57               ` Alan Stern
2003-07-31  3:27               ` David Brownell
2003-07-31  3:51                 ` David Brownell
2003-07-31  9:42                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-31 13:37                   ` David Brownell
2003-07-31 14:09                     ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-31 17:32                       ` David Brownell
2003-07-31 17:31                         ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-31 21:32                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-07-31 21:30                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-07-31 21:29                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-07-31  9:47                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-31 13:30                   ` David Brownell
2003-07-31 16:06                     ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-31  9:49                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-31 13:23                   ` David Brownell
2003-07-31 16:07                     ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-31 21:25                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-07-31 21:25                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-07-31 22:08                     ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-31 21:23                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-07-31 21:55                   ` David Brownell
2003-07-31 22:05                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-07-31 22:09                       ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-31 23:12                         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-08-01  9:33                           ` Pavel Machek
2003-07-31 22:03                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-01  0:27                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-08-04 19:25                       ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-01 18:20       ` Dominik Brugger
2003-07-29 13:16 ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2003-07-31 14:18   ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-01 17:41     ` David Brownell
2003-08-07 22:35       ` Pavel Machek

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