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From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Keerthy <j-keerthy@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/28] arm/arm64: KVM: Rework the hyp-stub API
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:14:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3dab2f39-88c2-e10b-942c-58a1d8053b71@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170322133724.GA10969@cbox>

Hi Christoffer,

On 22/03/17 13:37, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 07:20:30PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> As noticed by RMK in this thread[1], the hyp-stub API on 32bit ARM
>> could do with some TLC (it cannot perform a soft-restart at HYP, and
>> has holes in the hyp-stub support in a number of places). In general,
>> it would be desirable for the 32bit behaviour to align on 64bit, if
>> only to ease maintenance.
>>
>> This series implements the following:
>> - Add HVC_[GS]ET_VECTORS and HVC_SOFT_RESTART to the 32bit code
>> - Add HVC_RESET_VECTORS to both arm and arm64, removing the need for
>>   __hyp_reset_vectors
>> - Implement add the stub entry points in the KVM init code, which
>>   didn't implement any so far
>> - Convert the HYP code to use the init code stubs directly
>> - Some general cleanup as a result of these changes (which includes
>>   killing HVC_GET_VECTORS)
>> - Add some API documentation that covers the above
>>
>> Patches 12 to 14 would be better squashed into 10 and 11, but I've
>> kept them separate so that I can take the blame for everything I've
>> broken.
> 
> This series looks great overall.  I'm still going through the details of
> the patches, but one high level questions:
> 
> What if we formalized the way to call a function in Hyp mode, whatever
> its current configuration may be, via a specific HVC number.  That would
> mean that the documentation say nothing of a hypervisor specific
> implementaiton.

Do you mean an actual function call indirected via an HVC? Similar to
what we already do today for KVM when we want to call HYP functions?

> Could we then use that to initialize hyp mode for a hypervisor, i.e.
> KVM, without having to actually change the vectors?  Couldn't we simply
> use the the hvc stub to call a function in the physical address space,
> and be rid of the concept of hyp-init alltogether?

My problem here is when you say "in the physical space". Do you want to
be able to call such a function from any context? That's certainly
doable now, but I'm not completely sure of what we get.

Maybe I just don't see the use case - can you enlighten me?

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: marc.zyngier@arm.com (Marc Zyngier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 00/28] arm/arm64: KVM: Rework the hyp-stub API
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:14:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3dab2f39-88c2-e10b-942c-58a1d8053b71@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170322133724.GA10969@cbox>

Hi Christoffer,

On 22/03/17 13:37, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 07:20:30PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> As noticed by RMK in this thread[1], the hyp-stub API on 32bit ARM
>> could do with some TLC (it cannot perform a soft-restart at HYP, and
>> has holes in the hyp-stub support in a number of places). In general,
>> it would be desirable for the 32bit behaviour to align on 64bit, if
>> only to ease maintenance.
>>
>> This series implements the following:
>> - Add HVC_[GS]ET_VECTORS and HVC_SOFT_RESTART to the 32bit code
>> - Add HVC_RESET_VECTORS to both arm and arm64, removing the need for
>>   __hyp_reset_vectors
>> - Implement add the stub entry points in the KVM init code, which
>>   didn't implement any so far
>> - Convert the HYP code to use the init code stubs directly
>> - Some general cleanup as a result of these changes (which includes
>>   killing HVC_GET_VECTORS)
>> - Add some API documentation that covers the above
>>
>> Patches 12 to 14 would be better squashed into 10 and 11, but I've
>> kept them separate so that I can take the blame for everything I've
>> broken.
> 
> This series looks great overall.  I'm still going through the details of
> the patches, but one high level questions:
> 
> What if we formalized the way to call a function in Hyp mode, whatever
> its current configuration may be, via a specific HVC number.  That would
> mean that the documentation say nothing of a hypervisor specific
> implementaiton.

Do you mean an actual function call indirected via an HVC? Similar to
what we already do today for KVM when we want to call HYP functions?

> Could we then use that to initialize hyp mode for a hypervisor, i.e.
> KVM, without having to actually change the vectors?  Couldn't we simply
> use the the hvc stub to call a function in the physical address space,
> and be rid of the concept of hyp-init alltogether?

My problem here is when you say "in the physical space". Do you want to
be able to call such a function from any context? That's certainly
doable now, but I'm not completely sure of what we get.

Maybe I just don't see the use case - can you enlighten me?

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-22 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-21 19:20 [PATCH v4 00/28] arm/arm64: KVM: Rework the hyp-stub API Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 01/28] arm64: hyp-stub: Stop pointlessly clobbering lr Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 02/28] arm64: KVM: Move lr save/restore to do_el2_call Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-23 11:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-23 11:57     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 03/28] arm64: hyp-stub: Don't save lr in the EL1 code Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 04/28] arm64: hyp-stub: Implement HVC_RESET_VECTORS stub hypercall Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 05/28] arm64: KVM: Implement HVC_RESET_VECTORS stub hypercall in the init code Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 14:33   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 14:33     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 14:45     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 14:45       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 06/28] arm64: KVM: Implement HVC_GET_VECTORS " Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 07/28] arm64: KVM: Allow the main HYP code to use the init hyp stub implementation Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 14:33   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 14:33     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 14:56     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 14:56       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-04-03 17:28       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-03 17:28         ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 08/28] arm64: KVM: Convert __cpu_reset_hyp_mode to using __hyp_reset_vectors Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 09/28] arm64: KVM: Implement HVC_SOFT_RESTART in the init code Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 10/28] ARM: hyp-stub: improve ABI Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 11/28] ARM: soft-reboot into same mode that we entered the kernel Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 12/28] ARM: KVM: Convert KVM to use HVC_GET_VECTORS Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 13/28] ARM: Update cpu_v7_reset documentation Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 14/28] ARM: hyp-stub: Use r1 for the soft-restart address Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 15/28] ARM: Expose the VA/IDMAP offset Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 16/28] ARM: hyp-stub: Implement HVC_RESET_VECTORS stub hypercall Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 17/28] ARM: KVM: Implement HVC_RESET_VECTORS stub hypercall in the init code Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 18/28] ARM: KVM: Implement HVC_GET_VECTORS " Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 19/28] ARM: KVM: Allow the main HYP code to use the init hyp stub implementation Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 14:34   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 14:34     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 15:01     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 15:01       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-04-03 17:32       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-03 17:32         ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-03 17:51         ` Marc Zyngier
2017-04-03 17:51           ` Marc Zyngier
2017-04-04  7:36           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04  7:36             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 20/28] ARM: KVM: Convert __cpu_reset_hyp_mode to using __hyp_reset_vectors Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 21/28] ARM: KVM: Implement HVC_SOFT_RESTART in the init code Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 22/28] arm/arm64: KVM: Use __hyp_reset_vectors() directly Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 23/28] arm/arm64: KVM: Remove kvm_get_idmap_start Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 24/28] arm/arm64: KVM: Use HVC_RESET_VECTORS to reinit HYP mode Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 25/28] ARM: decompressor: Remove __hyp_get_vectors usage Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 14:34   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 14:34     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 15:26     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 15:26       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 26/28] ARM: hyp-stub/KVM: Kill __hyp_get_vectors Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 27/28] arm64: " Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 28/28] arm/arm64: Add hyp-stub API documentation Marc Zyngier
2017-03-21 19:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 14:33   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 14:33     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 14:42     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 14:42       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 15:23       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 15:23         ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 15:57         ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 15:57           ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-24 16:03           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 16:03             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-22 13:37 ` [PATCH v4 00/28] arm/arm64: KVM: Rework the hyp-stub API Christoffer Dall
2017-03-22 13:37   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-22 16:14   ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2017-03-22 16:14     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-22 17:27     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-22 17:27       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-23 10:53       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-23 10:53         ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-23 14:39         ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-23 14:39           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-23 15:16           ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-23 15:16             ` Marc Zyngier
2017-03-23 15:45             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-23 15:45               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-22 16:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-03-22 16:20   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-03-24 14:36 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-24 14:36   ` Christoffer Dall

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