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From: "Thomas Hellström (VMware)" <thomas_os@shipmail.org>
To: Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jonas Ådahl" <jadahl@redhat.com>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: Atomic KMS API lacks the ability to set cursor hot-spot coordinates
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 23:57:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3f0b858c-aa1b-2391-a936-6d1c8e36c0df@shipmail.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <da1Sy2AQg2pW3xtrqoF7yjUF5NpTkwSyooPGrnbBX8P5AEM283ODYI-kLYU1R76B27Zx7WT3uTg3s2B9ko1-KVTYRM7S0dpkjSPJM-Ehm8w=@emersion.fr>

Hi,

On 3/19/20 10:07 PM, Simon Ser wrote:
>>>>> Is that something that should be done?
>>>>> If the hotspot property also had a "disabled" value, then Weston could
>>>>> set the hotspot to disabled when it is using the cursor plane for
>>>>> non-cursor content and not lose the feature. And of course set hotspot
>>>>> correctly when it in fact is a cursor (but for what input?).
>>>> I believe cursor planes in the affected virtual gfx-cards do not
>>>> really have a mode where they can actually be used as a generic overlay
>>>> plane, certainly not in a useful manner (if anything works it will all
>>>> be software emulation), implementing a hotspot disabled mode would be
>>>> tricky and this would needs to be duplicated in all virtual-gfx cards
>>>> kms drivers.
>>>>
>>>> If I understood Daniel's proposal for how to deal with this properly,
>>>> then only cursor planes which actually need them would get the new
>>>> hotspot x/y properties. If we do that then Weston could use the
>>>> presence of the hotspot x/y properties to detect if it is dealing
>>>> with a proper hw plane which can also be used as a generic
>>>> plane; or a virtual-gfx cards cursor-plane, and then just not
>>>> bother with trying to use the plane as a generic hw plane.
>>>>
>>>> Would that work?
>>> That would need to at least be hidden behind a DRM capability, otherwise
>>> it would break existing user-space ignoring the hotspot props (e.g.
>>> current Weston).
>> Current Weston is already broken, fixing that is what this whole
>> thread is about.
>>
>> The virtual gfx-cards drivers simply must now the hotspot for things to
>> work; and a capability is not going to help here for 2 reasons:
>>
>> 1) Short of disabling seamless mode there is nothing the virtual
>> gfx-cards drivers can do when clients do not pass the hotspot info;
>> and in some cases they cannot even do this as it is under control
>> of a userspace agent process with its own channel to the hypervisor.
>>
>> 2) Most existing clients which obviously do not set this to-be-introduced
>> capability already pass the hotspot info using the DRM_IOCTL_MODE_CURSOR2
>> ioctl. Disabling seamless mode when this to-be-introduced capability is
>> not set would cause a huge regression for all these existing clients.
> Compositors which don't support the hotspot prop are and will continue to break
> seamless mode. Setting the prop will never be mandatory, because all user-space
> today doesn't do it.
>
> Since we need to update all user-space to add support for this prop, it would
> be a good idea to recognize user-space that doesn't support it. Doing something
> sensible with user-space that doesn't support the prop is up to the virtual
> driver.
>
> If we have a capability, the virtual driver could for instance not advertise a
> cursor plane at all if user-space won't correctly set the hotspot anyway.

What compositors do we have around today that wouldn't want to support 
setting the hotspot correctly? Do we like to keep them that way, and do 
we want to encourage any new compositors to also not do this properly?

/Thomas


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-19 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-18 14:28 Atomic KMS API lacks the ability to set cursor hot-spot coordinates Hans de Goede
2020-03-18 14:38 ` Simon Ser
2020-03-18 15:04   ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-18 15:22     ` Simon Ser
2020-03-19 11:35       ` Michel Dänzer
2020-03-19 11:52         ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 12:54           ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 13:51             ` Michel Dänzer
2020-03-19 14:48               ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 15:01                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19  9:57   ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 10:00     ` Simon Ser
2020-03-18 14:39 ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-18 15:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-03-18 22:20   ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 10:00 ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 11:49   ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 12:58     ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 13:16       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-03-19 13:24         ` Simon Ser
2020-03-19 14:30       ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 15:16         ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 18:18           ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 20:14             ` Simon Ser
2020-03-19 20:49               ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 21:07                 ` Simon Ser
2020-03-19 22:57                   ` Thomas Hellström (VMware) [this message]
2020-03-20  9:13                     ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-20 10:59                       ` Thomas Hellström (VMware)
2020-03-20 11:27                         ` Simon Ser
2020-03-20 11:47                           ` Thomas Hellström (VMware)
2020-03-21  8:56                             ` Thomas Hellström (VMware)

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