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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: "Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>, "Simon Ser" <contact@emersion.fr>
Cc: "Jonas Ådahl" <jadahl@redhat.com>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: Atomic KMS API lacks the ability to set cursor hot-spot coordinates
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 12:52:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8db6e079-c88a-6b11-b77b-337059a139ba@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e0c0cb57-8a37-f70e-045f-3243411cbf03@daenzer.net>

Hi,

On 3/19/20 12:35 PM, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On 2020-03-18 4:22 p.m., Simon Ser wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3/18/20 3:38 PM, Simon Ser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1) Letting the VM-viewer window-system draw the cursor as it normally
>>>>> would draw it.
>>>>
>>>> Why is this important? Can't the VM viewer hide the cursor and use a
>>>> sub-surface to manually draw the cursor plane configured by the guest?
>>>
>>> Because then moving the cursor as seen by the user requires a round trip
>>> through the VM and that adds latency, esp. when the VM viewer is viewing
>>> a VM which is running somewhere else over the network.
>>
>> The video output has latency anyway.
> 
> Sounds like you've never tried the two different modes yourself? :) IME
> it makes a big difference even with a local VM. Even very little latency
> can make the cursor feel awkward, like it's being held back by a rubber
> band or something.

Right not to mention that the latency may be variable, so the cursor
moves in a jittery fashion instead of having it move smoothly
matching the smooth way a user normally moves the mouse.

This totally wrecks hand-eye coordination and is just plain awefull.

Regards,

Hans

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-19 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-18 14:28 Atomic KMS API lacks the ability to set cursor hot-spot coordinates Hans de Goede
2020-03-18 14:38 ` Simon Ser
2020-03-18 15:04   ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-18 15:22     ` Simon Ser
2020-03-19 11:35       ` Michel Dänzer
2020-03-19 11:52         ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2020-03-19 12:54           ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 13:51             ` Michel Dänzer
2020-03-19 14:48               ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 15:01                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19  9:57   ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 10:00     ` Simon Ser
2020-03-18 14:39 ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-18 15:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-03-18 22:20   ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 10:00 ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 11:49   ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 12:58     ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 13:16       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-03-19 13:24         ` Simon Ser
2020-03-19 14:30       ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 15:16         ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-19 18:18           ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 20:14             ` Simon Ser
2020-03-19 20:49               ` Hans de Goede
2020-03-19 21:07                 ` Simon Ser
2020-03-19 22:57                   ` Thomas Hellström (VMware)
2020-03-20  9:13                     ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-03-20 10:59                       ` Thomas Hellström (VMware)
2020-03-20 11:27                         ` Simon Ser
2020-03-20 11:47                           ` Thomas Hellström (VMware)
2020-03-21  8:56                             ` Thomas Hellström (VMware)

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