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* [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
@ 2022-11-22 11:11 Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-11-22 11:11 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog Christoph Niedermaier
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Niedermaier @ 2022-11-22 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, Pavel Machek, Rob Herring,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, Jacek Anaszewski, Marek Vasut, kernel,
	linux-leds, devicetree

Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
in the description.

Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
---
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
Cc: Jacek Anaszewski <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>
Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
Cc: linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
---
 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/common.yaml | 1 +
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/common.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/common.yaml
index f5c57a580078..c1ce846f7676 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/common.yaml
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/common.yaml
@@ -52,6 +52,7 @@ properties:
     $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
 
   label:
+    deprecated: true
     description:
       The label for this LED. If omitted, the label is taken from the node name
       (excluding the unit address). It has to uniquely identify a device, i.e.
-- 
2.11.0


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* [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog
  2022-11-22 11:11 [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated Christoph Niedermaier
@ 2022-11-22 11:11 ` Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-11-29 12:33   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2022-11-22 11:11 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-11-22 12:23 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated Pavel Machek
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Niedermaier @ 2022-11-22 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, Support Opensource, Lee Jones,
	Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Marek Vasut, kernel,
	devicetree

Replace the watchdog file name with the name currently in use.

Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
---
Cc: Support Opensource <support.opensource@diasemi.com>
Cc: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
---
 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
index bab0d0e66cb3..e96629eb9f48 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
@@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ Sub-nodes:
 
 - onkey : See ../input/da9062-onkey.txt
 
-- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-watchdog.txt
+- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-wdt.txt
 
 - thermal : See ../thermal/da9062-thermal.txt
 
-- 
2.11.0


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* [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing
  2022-11-22 11:11 [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-11-22 11:11 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog Christoph Niedermaier
@ 2022-11-22 11:11 ` Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-11-29 12:06   ` Ulf Hansson
  2022-11-29 12:35   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2022-11-22 12:23 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated Pavel Machek
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Niedermaier @ 2022-11-22 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, Ulf Hansson, Rob Herring,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, Marek Vasut, kernel, linux-mmc, devicetree

The current comment on wakeup-source is a bit confusing, because it isn't
clear at first sight which property is actually deprecated.
Change the comment to one that is less confusing.

Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
---
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
Cc: linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
---
 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
index 802e3ca8be4d..a921442c6c1d 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
@@ -293,7 +293,7 @@ properties:
     description:
       SDIO only. Preserves card power during a suspend/resume cycle.
 
-  # Deprecated: enable-sdio-wakeup
+  # Use wakeup-source instead of the deprecated enable-sdio-wakeup
   wakeup-source:
     $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/flag
     description:
-- 
2.11.0


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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-11-22 11:11 [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-11-22 11:11 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-11-22 11:11 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing Christoph Niedermaier
@ 2022-11-22 12:23 ` Pavel Machek
  2022-11-25 21:26   ` Marek Vasut
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2022-11-22 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Niedermaier
  Cc: linux-kernel, Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Jacek Anaszewski,
	Marek Vasut, kernel, linux-leds, devicetree

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Hi!

> Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
> in the description.

Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.

Best regards,
								Pavel

> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/common.yaml
> @@ -52,6 +52,7 @@ properties:
>      $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
>  
>    label:
> +    deprecated: true
>      description:
>        The label for this LED. If omitted, the label is taken from the node name
>        (excluding the unit address). It has to uniquely identify a device, i.e.

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-11-22 12:23 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated Pavel Machek
@ 2022-11-25 21:26   ` Marek Vasut
  2022-11-29  9:03     ` Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-11-30 19:19     ` Rob Herring
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Marek Vasut @ 2022-11-25 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pavel Machek, Christoph Niedermaier
  Cc: linux-kernel, Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Jacek Anaszewski,
	kernel, linux-leds, devicetree

On 11/22/22 13:23, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!

Hi,

>> Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
>> in the description.
> 
> Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
> good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.

Can you please provide a clear explanation which property or approach is 
the correct one for new DTs ?

So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users 
should replace it with "function" and "color".

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* RE: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-11-25 21:26   ` Marek Vasut
@ 2022-11-29  9:03     ` Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-11-30 19:19     ` Rob Herring
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Niedermaier @ 2022-11-29  9:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marek Vasut, Pavel Machek
  Cc: linux-kernel, Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Jacek Anaszewski,
	kernel, linux-leds, devicetree

From: Marek Vasut [mailto:marex@denx.de]
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 10:27 PM
> On 11/22/22 13:23, Pavel Machek wrote:
>> Hi!
> 
> Hi,
> 

Hi,

>>> Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
>>> in the description.
>>
>> Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
>> good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.
> 
> Can you please provide a clear explanation which property or approach is
> the correct one for new DTs ?
> 
> So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users
> should replace it with "function" and "color".

I'm a little confused because the direction seems to have changed here.
Do you want label and functions (etc.) to be able to be used equally
side by side, or should one of them be preferred?

I also do DTs and it would be good to know what to go for.
Could you please provide further explanation?


Regards
Christoph

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing
  2022-11-22 11:11 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing Christoph Niedermaier
@ 2022-11-29 12:06   ` Ulf Hansson
  2022-11-29 12:33     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2022-11-29 12:35   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Hansson @ 2022-11-29 12:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel, Marek Vasut, kernel,
	linux-mmc, devicetree

On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 at 12:43, Christoph Niedermaier
<cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com> wrote:
>
> The current comment on wakeup-source is a bit confusing, because it isn't
> clear at first sight which property is actually deprecated.
> Change the comment to one that is less confusing.
>
> Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
> ---
> Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
> Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
> Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
> Cc: linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> ---
>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
> index 802e3ca8be4d..a921442c6c1d 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
> @@ -293,7 +293,7 @@ properties:
>      description:
>        SDIO only. Preserves card power during a suspend/resume cycle.
>
> -  # Deprecated: enable-sdio-wakeup
> +  # Use wakeup-source instead of the deprecated enable-sdio-wakeup
>    wakeup-source:
>      $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/flag
>      description:

Rob, Krzysztof - do we have a preferred pattern for how to express
deprecated bindings - or is the above okay to you?

Kind regards
Uffe

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing
  2022-11-29 12:06   ` Ulf Hansson
@ 2022-11-29 12:33     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski @ 2022-11-29 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Hansson, Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel, Marek Vasut, kernel,
	linux-mmc, devicetree

On 29/11/2022 13:06, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 at 12:43, Christoph Niedermaier
> <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com> wrote:
>>
>> The current comment on wakeup-source is a bit confusing, because it isn't
>> clear at first sight which property is actually deprecated.
>> Change the comment to one that is less confusing.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
>> ---
>> Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
>> Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
>> Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
>> Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
>> Cc: linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org
>> Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
>> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>> ---
>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml | 2 +-
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
>> index 802e3ca8be4d..a921442c6c1d 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
>> @@ -293,7 +293,7 @@ properties:
>>      description:
>>        SDIO only. Preserves card power during a suspend/resume cycle.
>>
>> -  # Deprecated: enable-sdio-wakeup
>> +  # Use wakeup-source instead of the deprecated enable-sdio-wakeup
>>    wakeup-source:
>>      $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/flag
>>      description:
> 
> Rob, Krzysztof - do we have a preferred pattern for how to express
> deprecated bindings - or is the above okay to you?

Yes, we have:
  deprecated: true

I don't get why this is in response to LED patch? I entirely ignored
this thread because of it.


Best regards,
Krzysztof


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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog
  2022-11-22 11:11 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog Christoph Niedermaier
@ 2022-11-29 12:33   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2022-11-30 10:10     ` Lee Jones
  2022-11-30 10:18     ` Christoph Niedermaier
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski @ 2022-11-29 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel
  Cc: Support Opensource, Lee Jones, Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Marek Vasut, kernel, devicetree

On 22/11/2022 12:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote:
> Replace the watchdog file name with the name currently in use.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
> ---
> Cc: Support Opensource <support.opensource@diasemi.com>
> Cc: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
> Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
> Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
> Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> ---
>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
> index bab0d0e66cb3..e96629eb9f48 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
> @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ Sub-nodes:
>  
>  - onkey : See ../input/da9062-onkey.txt
>  
> -- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-watchdog.txt
> +- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-wdt.txt

How is this related to LED patch? Don't mix threads.

Best regards,
Krzysztof


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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing
  2022-11-22 11:11 ` [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-11-29 12:06   ` Ulf Hansson
@ 2022-11-29 12:35   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2022-11-29 15:30     ` Ulf Hansson
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski @ 2022-11-29 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel
  Cc: Ulf Hansson, Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Marek Vasut,
	kernel, linux-mmc, devicetree

On 22/11/2022 12:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote:
> The current comment on wakeup-source is a bit confusing, because it isn't
> clear at first sight which property is actually deprecated.
> Change the comment to one that is less confusing.

It's still confusing - you mention some non-existing property. I don't
think it's worth to touch it. If you insist, drop entire comment...

> 
> Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
> ---
> Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
> Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
> Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
> Cc: linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> ---
>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
> index 802e3ca8be4d..a921442c6c1d 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
> @@ -293,7 +293,7 @@ properties:
>      description:
>        SDIO only. Preserves card power during a suspend/resume cycle.
>  
> -  # Deprecated: enable-sdio-wakeup
> +  # Use wakeup-source instead of the deprecated enable-sdio-wakeup
>    wakeup-source:
>      $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/flag
>      description:

Best regards,
Krzysztof


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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing
  2022-11-29 12:35   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
@ 2022-11-29 15:30     ` Ulf Hansson
  2022-11-29 15:37       ` Marek Vasut
  2022-11-29 15:59       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Hansson @ 2022-11-29 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Krzysztof Kozlowski
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel, Rob Herring,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, Marek Vasut, kernel, linux-mmc, devicetree

On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 13:36, Krzysztof Kozlowski
<krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On 22/11/2022 12:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote:
> > The current comment on wakeup-source is a bit confusing, because it isn't
> > clear at first sight which property is actually deprecated.
> > Change the comment to one that is less confusing.
>
> It's still confusing - you mention some non-existing property. I don't
> think it's worth to touch it. If you insist, drop entire comment...

Hmm, it doesn't look that easy to me. The "enable-sdio-wakeup" is
indeed a deprecated wakeup property [1], but it seems like it's not
really described somewhere. I wouldn't mind removing it (as it seems
to add some confusions), but in that case it needs to be entirely
removed from the DT docs, right?

Another option, would be to add a proper description of the property
and mark it with "deprecated: true".

>
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
> > ---
> > Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
> > Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> > Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
> > Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
> > Cc: linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org
> > Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> > To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > ---
> >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml | 2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
> > index 802e3ca8be4d..a921442c6c1d 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml
> > @@ -293,7 +293,7 @@ properties:
> >      description:
> >        SDIO only. Preserves card power during a suspend/resume cycle.
> >
> > -  # Deprecated: enable-sdio-wakeup
> > +  # Use wakeup-source instead of the deprecated enable-sdio-wakeup
> >    wakeup-source:
> >      $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/flag
> >      description:

Kind regards
Uffe

[1]
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/wakeup-source.txt

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing
  2022-11-29 15:30     ` Ulf Hansson
@ 2022-11-29 15:37       ` Marek Vasut
  2022-11-29 15:59       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Marek Vasut @ 2022-11-29 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Hansson, Krzysztof Kozlowski
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel, Rob Herring,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, kernel, linux-mmc, devicetree

On 11/29/22 16:30, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 13:36, Krzysztof Kozlowski
> <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 22/11/2022 12:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote:
>>> The current comment on wakeup-source is a bit confusing, because it isn't
>>> clear at first sight which property is actually deprecated.
>>> Change the comment to one that is less confusing.
>>
>> It's still confusing - you mention some non-existing property. I don't
>> think it's worth to touch it. If you insist, drop entire comment...
> 
> Hmm, it doesn't look that easy to me. The "enable-sdio-wakeup" is
> indeed a deprecated wakeup property [1], but it seems like it's not
> really described somewhere. I wouldn't mind removing it (as it seems
> to add some confusions), but in that case it needs to be entirely
> removed from the DT docs, right?
> 
> Another option, would be to add a proper description of the property
> and mark it with "deprecated: true".

There are no in-tree DTs which use the property, so maybe we should just 
drop it altogether from the bindings ?

next-20221128$ git grep enable-sdio-wakeup
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller.yaml:  # 
Deprecated: enable-sdio-wakeup
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/wakeup-source.txt:1. 
"enable-sdio-wakeup" 
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt
drivers/mmc/core/host.c:            device_property_read_bool(dev, 
"enable-sdio-wakeup")) /* legacy */
drivers/mmc/host/sdhci-pltfm.c:     device_property_read_bool(dev, 
"enable-sdio-wakeup")) /* legacy */

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mmc: Make comment on wakeup-source less confusing
  2022-11-29 15:30     ` Ulf Hansson
  2022-11-29 15:37       ` Marek Vasut
@ 2022-11-29 15:59       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski @ 2022-11-29 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Hansson
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel, Rob Herring,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, Marek Vasut, kernel, linux-mmc, devicetree

On 29/11/2022 16:30, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 13:36, Krzysztof Kozlowski
> <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 22/11/2022 12:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote:
>>> The current comment on wakeup-source is a bit confusing, because it isn't
>>> clear at first sight which property is actually deprecated.
>>> Change the comment to one that is less confusing.
>>
>> It's still confusing - you mention some non-existing property. I don't
>> think it's worth to touch it. If you insist, drop entire comment...
> 
> Hmm, it doesn't look that easy to me. The "enable-sdio-wakeup" is
> indeed a deprecated wakeup property [1], but it seems like it's not
> really described somewhere. I wouldn't mind removing it (as it seems
> to add some confusions), but in that case it needs to be entirely
> removed from the DT docs, right?

Yes, from the bindings and from DTSes. It's already gone from
mmc-controller.yaml bindings, so basically we already did the most of
such removal.

> 
> Another option, would be to add a proper description of the property
> and mark it with "deprecated: true".


Best regards,
Krzysztof


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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog
  2022-11-29 12:33   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
@ 2022-11-30 10:10     ` Lee Jones
  2022-11-30 10:13       ` kernel
  2022-11-30 10:19       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2022-11-30 10:18     ` Christoph Niedermaier
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Lee Jones @ 2022-11-30 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Krzysztof Kozlowski
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel, Support Opensource,
	Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Marek Vasut, kernel,
	devicetree

On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:

> On 22/11/2022 12:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote:
> > Replace the watchdog file name with the name currently in use.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
> > ---
> > Cc: Support Opensource <support.opensource@diasemi.com>
> > Cc: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> > Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
> > Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
> > Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> > To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > ---
> >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt | 2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
> > index bab0d0e66cb3..e96629eb9f48 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
> > @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ Sub-nodes:
> >  
> >  - onkey : See ../input/da9062-onkey.txt
> >  
> > -- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-watchdog.txt
> > +- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-wdt.txt
> 
> How is this related to LED patch? Don't mix threads.

Que?

  [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]

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* RE: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog
  2022-11-30 10:10     ` Lee Jones
@ 2022-11-30 10:13       ` kernel
  2022-11-30 10:19       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: kernel @ 2022-11-30 10:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lee Jones, Krzysztof Kozlowski
  Cc: linux-kernel, Support Opensource, Rob Herring,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, Marek Vasut, kernel, devicetree

From: Lee Jones [mailto:lee@kernel.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:10 AM
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> 
>> On 22/11/2022 12:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote:
>>> Replace the watchdog file name with the name currently in use.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
>>> ---
>>> Cc: Support Opensource <support.opensource@diasemi.com>
>>> Cc: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
>>> Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
>>> Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
>>> Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
>>> Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
>>> Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
>>> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>>> ---
>>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt | 2 +-
>>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
>>> index bab0d0e66cb3..e96629eb9f48 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
>>> @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ Sub-nodes:
>>>
>>>  - onkey : See ../input/da9062-onkey.txt
>>>
>>> -- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-watchdog.txt
>>> +- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-wdt.txt
>>
>> How is this related to LED patch? Don't mix threads.
> 
> Que?
> 
>   [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog
> 
> --
> Lee Jones [李琼斯]

I am sorry. I used git send-email the wrong way. Thanks for pointing this out.
Don't answer to this E-Mail. I will send a new patch.


Regards
Christoph

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* RE: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog
  2022-11-29 12:33   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2022-11-30 10:10     ` Lee Jones
@ 2022-11-30 10:18     ` Christoph Niedermaier
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Niedermaier @ 2022-11-30 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Krzysztof Kozlowski, linux-kernel
  Cc: Support Opensource, Lee Jones, Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Marek Vasut, kernel, devicetree

From: Krzysztof Kozlowski [mailto:krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 1:34 PM
> On 22/11/2022 12:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote:
>> Replace the watchdog file name with the name currently in use.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
>> ---
>> Cc: Support Opensource <support.opensource@diasemi.com>
>> Cc: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
>> Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
>> Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
>> Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
>> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>> ---
>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt | 2 +-
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
>> index bab0d0e66cb3..e96629eb9f48 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
>> @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ Sub-nodes:
>>
>>  - onkey : See ../input/da9062-onkey.txt
>>
>> -- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-watchdog.txt
>> +- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-wdt.txt
> 
> How is this related to LED patch? Don't mix threads.

I am sorry. I used git send-email the wrong way. Thanks for pointing this out.
Don't answer to this E-Mail. I will send a new patch.


Regards
Christoph

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog
  2022-11-30 10:10     ` Lee Jones
  2022-11-30 10:13       ` kernel
@ 2022-11-30 10:19       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
  2022-11-30 10:20         ` Lee Jones
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski @ 2022-11-30 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lee Jones
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel, Support Opensource,
	Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Marek Vasut, kernel,
	devicetree

On 30/11/2022 11:10, Lee Jones wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> 
>> On 22/11/2022 12:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote:
>>> Replace the watchdog file name with the name currently in use.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
>>> ---
>>> Cc: Support Opensource <support.opensource@diasemi.com>
>>> Cc: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
>>> Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
>>> Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
>>> Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
>>> Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
>>> Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
>>> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>>> ---
>>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt | 2 +-
>>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
>>> index bab0d0e66cb3..e96629eb9f48 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
>>> @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ Sub-nodes:
>>>  
>>>  - onkey : See ../input/da9062-onkey.txt
>>>  
>>> -- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-watchdog.txt
>>> +- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-wdt.txt
>>
>> How is this related to LED patch? Don't mix threads.
> 
> Que?
> 
>   [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog

It's a response to a LED patch (single, not thread).

Best regards,
Krzysztof


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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog
  2022-11-30 10:19       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
@ 2022-11-30 10:20         ` Lee Jones
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Lee Jones @ 2022-11-30 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Krzysztof Kozlowski
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel, Support Opensource,
	Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Marek Vasut, kernel,
	devicetree

On Wed, 30 Nov 2022, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:

> On 30/11/2022 11:10, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > 
> >> On 22/11/2022 12:11, Christoph Niedermaier wrote:
> >>> Replace the watchdog file name with the name currently in use.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Christoph Niedermaier <cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com>
> >>> ---
> >>> Cc: Support Opensource <support.opensource@diasemi.com>
> >>> Cc: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
> >>> Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> >>> Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> >>> Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
> >>> Cc: kernel@dh-electronics.com
> >>> Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> >>> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> >>> ---
> >>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt | 2 +-
> >>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
> >>> index bab0d0e66cb3..e96629eb9f48 100644
> >>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
> >>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mfd/da9062.txt
> >>> @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ Sub-nodes:
> >>>  
> >>>  - onkey : See ../input/da9062-onkey.txt
> >>>  
> >>> -- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-watchdog.txt
> >>> +- watchdog: See ../watchdog/da9062-wdt.txt
> >>
> >> How is this related to LED patch? Don't mix threads.
> > 
> > Que?
> > 
> >   [PATCH] dt-bindings: mfd: da9062: Correct file name for watchdog
> 
> It's a response to a LED patch (single, not thread).

Didn't show up like that of me.

I guess I wasn't included on the LED patch.

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-11-25 21:26   ` Marek Vasut
  2022-11-29  9:03     ` Christoph Niedermaier
@ 2022-11-30 19:19     ` Rob Herring
  2022-11-30 19:26       ` Pavel Machek
  2022-12-01 23:41       ` Marek Vasut
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Rob Herring @ 2022-11-30 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marek Vasut
  Cc: Pavel Machek, Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, Jacek Anaszewski, kernel, linux-leds,
	devicetree

On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:26:30PM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 11/22/22 13:23, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > > Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
> > > in the description.
> > 
> > Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
> > good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.
> 
> Can you please provide a clear explanation which property or approach is the
> correct one for new DTs ?
> 
> So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users
> should replace it with "function" and "color".

'function' is what activity/operation the LED is associated with. It is 
a fixed set of strings which s/w may use. It is a replacement for 
'linux,default-trigger'.

'label' is what is printed next to the LED for a human to read. 'label' 
can be anything and the OS shouldn't care what it is.


They serve 2 different purposes.

Rob

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-11-30 19:19     ` Rob Herring
@ 2022-11-30 19:26       ` Pavel Machek
  2022-12-01 21:47         ` Rob Herring
  2022-12-01 23:44         ` Marek Vasut
  2022-12-01 23:41       ` Marek Vasut
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2022-11-30 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rob Herring
  Cc: Marek Vasut, Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, Jacek Anaszewski, kernel, linux-leds,
	devicetree

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On Wed 2022-11-30 13:19:05, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:26:30PM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > On 11/22/22 13:23, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > > Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
> > > > in the description.
> > > 
> > > Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
> > > good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.
> > 
> > Can you please provide a clear explanation which property or approach is the
> > correct one for new DTs ?
> > 
> > So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users
> > should replace it with "function" and "color".
> 
> 'function' is what activity/operation the LED is associated with. It is 
> a fixed set of strings which s/w may use. It is a replacement for 
> 'linux,default-trigger'.
> 
> 'label' is what is printed next to the LED for a human to read. 'label' 
> can be anything and the OS shouldn't care what it is.

Unfortunately, no.

We use label as a path in /sys/class/leds. And it looks like integer
"function" is not really adequate for describing what LED does. There
are too many LEDs and not enough integers, and it is common to have
same function ("activity") on multiple devices ("wifi", "mmc", "eth").

Best regards,
								Pavel
-- 
People of Russia, stop Putin before his war on Ukraine escalates.

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-11-30 19:26       ` Pavel Machek
@ 2022-12-01 21:47         ` Rob Herring
  2022-12-02  9:25           ` Pavel Machek
  2022-12-01 23:44         ` Marek Vasut
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Rob Herring @ 2022-12-01 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pavel Machek
  Cc: Marek Vasut, Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, Jacek Anaszewski, kernel, linux-leds,
	devicetree

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 1:27 PM Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
>
> On Wed 2022-11-30 13:19:05, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:26:30PM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > On 11/22/22 13:23, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > > Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
> > > > > in the description.
> > > >
> > > > Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
> > > > good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.
> > >
> > > Can you please provide a clear explanation which property or approach is the
> > > correct one for new DTs ?
> > >
> > > So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users
> > > should replace it with "function" and "color".
> >
> > 'function' is what activity/operation the LED is associated with. It is
> > a fixed set of strings which s/w may use. It is a replacement for
> > 'linux,default-trigger'.
> >
> > 'label' is what is printed next to the LED for a human to read. 'label'
> > can be anything and the OS shouldn't care what it is.
>
> Unfortunately, no.

That's why I said 'shouldn't care', not 'doesn't care'.

'label' is also not just an LED property. It's used elsewhere, but
unfortunately the LED subsystem makes more use of it than it perhaps
should.

> We use label as a path in /sys/class/leds.

Yes, or node name if no label. That's still not really caring what the
value of label is. At least the kernel doesn't. A well behaved
userspace wouldn't either and doesn't for most classes.

> And it looks like integer
> "function" is not really adequate for describing what LED does. There
> are too many LEDs and not enough integers, and it is common to have
> same function ("activity") on multiple devices ("wifi", "mmc", "eth").

Whatever the problems are, 'label' is not the solution.

There is a way to associate leds with devices. 'trigger-source' IIRC.

Rob

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-11-30 19:19     ` Rob Herring
  2022-11-30 19:26       ` Pavel Machek
@ 2022-12-01 23:41       ` Marek Vasut
  2022-12-05 18:44         ` Jacek Anaszewski
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Marek Vasut @ 2022-12-01 23:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rob Herring
  Cc: Pavel Machek, Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, Jacek Anaszewski, kernel, linux-leds,
	devicetree

On 11/30/22 20:19, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:26:30PM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
>> On 11/22/22 13:23, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>>> Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
>>>> in the description.
>>>
>>> Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
>>> good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.
>>
>> Can you please provide a clear explanation which property or approach is the
>> correct one for new DTs ?
>>
>> So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users
>> should replace it with "function" and "color".
> 
> 'function' is what activity/operation the LED is associated with. It is
> a fixed set of strings which s/w may use. It is a replacement for
> 'linux,default-trigger'.

Isn't this 'function' more of a standardized replacement for 'label' ?

$ git grep LED_FUNCTION_ include/
...
include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_PLAYER5 "player-5"
include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_ACTIVITY "activity"
include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_ALARM "alarm"
include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BACKLIGHT "backlight"
include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BLUETOOTH "bluetooth"
include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BOOT "boot"
...

Seems to me that ^ is closer to a "standardized" form of 'label' .

The LED subsystem does not infer any behavior of those LEDs based on 
their 'function' property as far as I can tell, at least not in the way 
'linux,default-trigger' behaves.

> 'label' is what is printed next to the LED for a human to read. 'label'
> can be anything and the OS shouldn't care what it is.

This part I understand. What is not clear to me is, why is 'label' being 
un-deprecated.

We newly have 'function', 'function-enumerator' and 'color' DT 
properties for LEDs, which seem to be standardized forms of describing 
what the LED is used for, which LED it is (if there are multiple), and 
color of that LED. This was previously described in the 'label' 
property, usually in free form of e.g. "beaglebone:green:usr2" .

> They serve 2 different purposes.

[...]

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-11-30 19:26       ` Pavel Machek
  2022-12-01 21:47         ` Rob Herring
@ 2022-12-01 23:44         ` Marek Vasut
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Marek Vasut @ 2022-12-01 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pavel Machek, Rob Herring
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	Jacek Anaszewski, kernel, linux-leds, devicetree

On 11/30/22 20:26, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Wed 2022-11-30 13:19:05, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:26:30PM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>> On 11/22/22 13:23, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>>> Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
>>>>> in the description.
>>>>
>>>> Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
>>>> good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.
>>>
>>> Can you please provide a clear explanation which property or approach is the
>>> correct one for new DTs ?
>>>
>>> So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users
>>> should replace it with "function" and "color".
>>
>> 'function' is what activity/operation the LED is associated with. It is
>> a fixed set of strings which s/w may use. It is a replacement for
>> 'linux,default-trigger'.
>>
>> 'label' is what is printed next to the LED for a human to read. 'label'
>> can be anything and the OS shouldn't care what it is.
> 
> Unfortunately, no.
> 
> We use label as a path in /sys/class/leds. And it looks like integer
> "function" is not really adequate for describing what LED does. There
> are too many LEDs and not enough integers, and it is common to have
> same function ("activity") on multiple devices ("wifi", "mmc", "eth").

The Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/common.yaml schema indicates 
that function is a string, not an integer:

"
  32   function:
  33     description:
  34       LED function. Use one of the LED_FUNCTION_* prefixed definitions
  35       from the header include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h. If there is no
  36       matching LED_FUNCTION available, add a new one.
  37     $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
"

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-12-01 21:47         ` Rob Herring
@ 2022-12-02  9:25           ` Pavel Machek
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2022-12-02  9:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rob Herring
  Cc: Marek Vasut, Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, Jacek Anaszewski, kernel, linux-leds,
	devicetree

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Hi!

> > > > So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users
> > > > should replace it with "function" and "color".
> > >
> > > 'function' is what activity/operation the LED is associated with. It is
> > > a fixed set of strings which s/w may use. It is a replacement for
> > > 'linux,default-trigger'.
> > >
> > > 'label' is what is printed next to the LED for a human to read. 'label'
> > > can be anything and the OS shouldn't care what it is.
> >
> > Unfortunately, no.
> 
> That's why I said 'shouldn't care', not 'doesn't care'.
> 
> 'label' is also not just an LED property. It's used elsewhere, but
> unfortunately the LED subsystem makes more use of it than it perhaps
> should.
> 
> > We use label as a path in /sys/class/leds.
> 
> Yes, or node name if no label. That's still not really caring what the
> value of label is. At least the kernel doesn't. A well behaved
> userspace wouldn't either and doesn't for most classes.

A well behaved userspace needs that to tell what kind of LED it is. It
is important to tell keyboard backlight from HDD activity LED and from
fllash on back camera for example.

> > And it looks like integer
> > "function" is not really adequate for describing what LED does. There
> > are too many LEDs and not enough integers, and it is common to have
> > same function ("activity") on multiple devices ("wifi", "mmc", "eth").
> 
> Whatever the problems are, 'label' is not the solution.
> 
> There is a way to associate leds with devices. 'trigger-source'
> IIRC.

Neither is trigger-source a solution.

Can we have linux,sysfs-path or something?

								Pavel
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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-12-01 23:41       ` Marek Vasut
@ 2022-12-05 18:44         ` Jacek Anaszewski
  2022-12-22  9:36           ` Christoph Niedermaier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Jacek Anaszewski @ 2022-12-05 18:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marek Vasut, Rob Herring
  Cc: Pavel Machek, Christoph Niedermaier, linux-kernel,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, kernel, linux-leds, devicetree

Hi all,

On 12/2/22 00:41, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 11/30/22 20:19, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:26:30PM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>> On 11/22/22 13:23, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>>> Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
>>>>> in the description.
>>>>
>>>> Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
>>>> good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.
>>>
>>> Can you please provide a clear explanation which property or approach 
>>> is the
>>> correct one for new DTs ?
>>>
>>> So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users
>>> should replace it with "function" and "color".
>>
>> 'function' is what activity/operation the LED is associated with. It is
>> a fixed set of strings which s/w may use. It is a replacement for
>> 'linux,default-trigger'.
> 
> Isn't this 'function' more of a standardized replacement for 'label' ?

Yes it is. Introduction of function and color properties aimed at 
standardizing LED naming. Before there was only 'label' used for that,
with DT node name as fallback if 'label' property was not provided.
With introduction of 'function' and 'color' label was deprecated in
the sense that if the former two are present, they are used for
composing the LED name.

In LED documentation [0] people are encouraged to use definitions from
include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h to keep LED naming uniform.
It allows to avoid duplicates like "wlan" and "wifi".

> $ git grep LED_FUNCTION_ include/
> ...
> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_PLAYER5 "player-5"
> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_ACTIVITY "activity"
> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_ALARM "alarm"
> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BACKLIGHT 
> "backlight"
> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BLUETOOTH 
> "bluetooth"
> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BOOT "boot"
> ...
> 
> Seems to me that ^ is closer to a "standardized" form of 'label' .
> 
> The LED subsystem does not infer any behavior of those LEDs based on 
> their 'function' property as far as I can tell, at least not in the way 
> 'linux,default-trigger' behaves.
> 
>> 'label' is what is printed next to the LED for a human to read. 'label'
>> can be anything and the OS shouldn't care what it is.
> 
> This part I understand. What is not clear to me is, why is 'label' being 
> un-deprecated.

It shouldn't be. It seems to be Pavel's ad-hoc decision.

> We newly have 'function', 'function-enumerator' and 'color' DT 
> properties for LEDs, which seem to be standardized forms of describing 
> what the LED is used for, which LED it is (if there are multiple), and 
> color of that LED. This was previously described in the 'label' 
> property, usually in free form of e.g. "beaglebone:green:usr2" .
> 
>> They serve 2 different purposes.
> 
> [...]

[0] Documentation/leds/leds-class.rst
-- 
Best regards,
Jacek Anaszewski

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* RE: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-12-05 18:44         ` Jacek Anaszewski
@ 2022-12-22  9:36           ` Christoph Niedermaier
  2022-12-22 13:50             ` Pavel Machek
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Niedermaier @ 2022-12-22  9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jacek Anaszewski, Marek Vasut, Rob Herring, Pavel Machek
  Cc: linux-kernel, Krzysztof Kozlowski, kernel, linux-leds, devicetree

From: Jacek Anaszewski [mailto:jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 7:44 PM
> 
> Hi all,
>

Hi all,

> On 12/2/22 00:41, Marek Vasut wrote:
>> On 11/30/22 20:19, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:26:30PM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>>> On 11/22/22 13:23, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>>> Mark the label property as deprecated as it is mentioned
>>>>>> in the description.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets do it the other way around. Functions (etc) don't really provide
>>>>> good enough description of LED, and label is still needed.
>>>>
>>>> Can you please provide a clear explanation which property or approach
>>>> is the
>>>> correct one for new DTs ?
>>>>
>>>> So far, the documentation states that "label" is deprecated, and users
>>>> should replace it with "function" and "color".
>>>
>>> 'function' is what activity/operation the LED is associated with. It is
>>> a fixed set of strings which s/w may use. It is a replacement for
>>> 'linux,default-trigger'.
>>
>> Isn't this 'function' more of a standardized replacement for 'label' ?
> 
> Yes it is. Introduction of function and color properties aimed at
> standardizing LED naming. Before there was only 'label' used for that,
> with DT node name as fallback if 'label' property was not provided.
> With introduction of 'function' and 'color' label was deprecated in
> the sense that if the former two are present, they are used for
> composing the LED name.
> 
> In LED documentation [0] people are encouraged to use definitions from
> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h to keep LED naming uniform.
> It allows to avoid duplicates like "wlan" and "wifi".
> 
>> $ git grep LED_FUNCTION_ include/
>> ...
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_PLAYER5 "player-5"
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_ACTIVITY "activity"
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_ALARM "alarm"
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BACKLIGHT
>> "backlight"
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BLUETOOTH
>> "bluetooth"
>> include/dt-bindings/leds/common.h:#define LED_FUNCTION_BOOT "boot"
>> ...
>>
>> Seems to me that ^ is closer to a "standardized" form of 'label' .
>>
>> The LED subsystem does not infer any behavior of those LEDs based on
>> their 'function' property as far as I can tell, at least not in the way
>> 'linux,default-trigger' behaves.
>>
>>> 'label' is what is printed next to the LED for a human to read. 'label'
>>> can be anything and the OS shouldn't care what it is.
>>
>> This part I understand. What is not clear to me is, why is 'label' being
>> un-deprecated.
> 
> It shouldn't be. It seems to be Pavel's ad-hoc decision.

Is there a majority agreement that the "label" property remains deprecated?
If so, I would say we can mark the label as deprecated.

On the other hand, the new generated standardized sysfs name does not seem
to provide a full replacement for the "label" property.
What is still missing?
How can the current state be extended to find more acceptance?

[...]

Regards
Christoph

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-12-22  9:36           ` Christoph Niedermaier
@ 2022-12-22 13:50             ` Pavel Machek
  2022-12-22 14:01               ` Marek Vasut
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2022-12-22 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Niedermaier
  Cc: Jacek Anaszewski, Marek Vasut, Rob Herring, linux-kernel,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski, kernel, linux-leds, devicetree

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Hi!

> >> This part I understand. What is not clear to me is, why is 'label' being
> >> un-deprecated.
> > 
> > It shouldn't be. It seems to be Pavel's ad-hoc decision.
> 
> Is there a majority agreement that the "label" property remains
> deprecated?


> If so, I would say we can mark the label as deprecated.
> 
> On the other hand, the new generated standardized sysfs name does not seem
> to provide a full replacement for the "label" property.
> What is still missing?

Having reasonable naming of the LEDs is pre-requisite for deprecating
label property.

And no, kernel community does not operate by "majority agreement"s.

Best regards,
								Pavel
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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-12-22 13:50             ` Pavel Machek
@ 2022-12-22 14:01               ` Marek Vasut
  2022-12-22 14:56                 ` Pavel Machek
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Marek Vasut @ 2022-12-22 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pavel Machek, Christoph Niedermaier
  Cc: Jacek Anaszewski, Rob Herring, linux-kernel, Krzysztof Kozlowski,
	kernel, linux-leds, devicetree

On 12/22/22 14:50, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>>>> This part I understand. What is not clear to me is, why is 'label' being
>>>> un-deprecated.
>>>
>>> It shouldn't be. It seems to be Pavel's ad-hoc decision.
>>
>> Is there a majority agreement that the "label" property remains
>> deprecated?
> 
> 
>> If so, I would say we can mark the label as deprecated.
>>
>> On the other hand, the new generated standardized sysfs name does not seem
>> to provide a full replacement for the "label" property.
>> What is still missing?
> 
> Having reasonable naming of the LEDs is pre-requisite for deprecating
> label property.

As far as I can tell, function and function-enumerator is the reasonable 
naming. Jacek seem to confirm that. I would say, label can be deprecated 
. What is the counter-argument for why it should NOT be deprecated ?

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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-12-22 14:01               ` Marek Vasut
@ 2022-12-22 14:56                 ` Pavel Machek
  2022-12-22 15:21                   ` Marek Vasut
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2022-12-22 14:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marek Vasut
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, Jacek Anaszewski, Rob Herring,
	linux-kernel, Krzysztof Kozlowski, kernel, linux-leds,
	devicetree

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On Thu 2022-12-22 15:01:44, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 12/22/22 14:50, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > > > > This part I understand. What is not clear to me is, why is 'label' being
> > > > > un-deprecated.
> > > > 
> > > > It shouldn't be. It seems to be Pavel's ad-hoc decision.
> > > 
> > > Is there a majority agreement that the "label" property remains
> > > deprecated?
> > 
> > 
> > > If so, I would say we can mark the label as deprecated.
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, the new generated standardized sysfs name does not seem
> > > to provide a full replacement for the "label" property.
> > > What is still missing?
> > 
> > Having reasonable naming of the LEDs is pre-requisite for deprecating
> > label property.
> 
> As far as I can tell, function and function-enumerator is the reasonable
> naming. Jacek seem to confirm that. I would say, label can be deprecated .
> What is the counter-argument for why it should NOT be deprecated ?

When the label is no longer neccessary for naming leds, it can be
deprecated. AFAICT, that is currently not the case.

Best regards,
									Pavel
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* Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Mark label property as deprecated
  2022-12-22 14:56                 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2022-12-22 15:21                   ` Marek Vasut
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Marek Vasut @ 2022-12-22 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pavel Machek
  Cc: Christoph Niedermaier, Jacek Anaszewski, Rob Herring,
	linux-kernel, Krzysztof Kozlowski, kernel, linux-leds,
	devicetree

On 12/22/22 15:56, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Thu 2022-12-22 15:01:44, Marek Vasut wrote:
>> On 12/22/22 14:50, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>>>> This part I understand. What is not clear to me is, why is 'label' being
>>>>>> un-deprecated.
>>>>>
>>>>> It shouldn't be. It seems to be Pavel's ad-hoc decision.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a majority agreement that the "label" property remains
>>>> deprecated?
>>>
>>>
>>>> If so, I would say we can mark the label as deprecated.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, the new generated standardized sysfs name does not seem
>>>> to provide a full replacement for the "label" property.
>>>> What is still missing?
>>>
>>> Having reasonable naming of the LEDs is pre-requisite for deprecating
>>> label property.
>>
>> As far as I can tell, function and function-enumerator is the reasonable
>> naming. Jacek seem to confirm that. I would say, label can be deprecated .
>> What is the counter-argument for why it should NOT be deprecated ?
> 
> When the label is no longer neccessary for naming leds, it can be
> deprecated. AFAICT, that is currently not the case.

I'm sorry, this is not a counter-argument, this is hand-waving .

Do you have anything to back your claim that the label is currently 
still needed, contrary to what the DT bindings document claims for 
years? "This property is deprecated - use 'function' and 'color' 
properties instead. function-enumerator has no effect when this property 
is present."

"
commit c5d18dd6b64e09dd6984bda9bdd55160af537a8c
Date:   Sun Jun 9 20:19:04 2019 +0200

     dt-bindings: leds: Add properties for LED name construction

     Introduce dedicated properties for conveying information about
     LED function and color. Mark old "label" property as deprecated.

     Additionally function-enumerator property is being provided
     for the cases when neither function nor color can be used
     for LED differentiation.
"

It seems the function and function-enumerator is very much the 
replacement for label, except standardized. If that's not the case, do 
elaborate. If there is a special case that is not covered by it, do 
point it out.

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