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* Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info file has moved from build/conf to build/cache
       [not found] <15F53638120140E5.26907@lists.yoctoproject.org>
@ 2020-02-20 20:42 ` Peter Kjellerstedt
  2020-02-20 22:38   ` Richard Purdie
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Peter Kjellerstedt @ 2020-02-20 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: docs, Michael Halstead

> -----Original Message-----
> From: docs@lists.yoctoproject.org <docs@lists.yoctoproject.org> 
> On Behalf Of Peter Kjellerstedt 
> via Lists.Yoctoproject.Org <peter.kjellerstedt=axis.com@lists.yoctoproject.org>
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why did that happen? When I sent the same patches 10 days ago to 
the same destination, my address came out normal without the via 
(I resent the patches because they had not appeared in Patchwork).

The reason I ask is because I expect this gives me a separate 
entry in Patchwork for this address compared to my normal entry, 
which complicates things when I want to search for my open patches.
So if possible I would like to avoid this in the future...

//Peter


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* Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info file has moved from build/conf to build/cache
  2020-02-20 20:42 ` [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info file has moved from build/conf to build/cache Peter Kjellerstedt
@ 2020-02-20 22:38   ` Richard Purdie
  2020-02-21  9:29     ` Peter Kjellerstedt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2020-02-20 22:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: docs, Michael Halstead, Peter Kjellerstedt

On Thu, 2020-02-20 at 20:42 +0000, Peter Kjellerstedt via
Lists.Yoctoproject.Org wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: docs@lists.yoctoproject.org <docs@lists.yoctoproject.org> 
> > On Behalf Of Peter Kjellerstedt 
> > via Lists.Yoctoproject.Org <
> > peter.kjellerstedt=axis.com@lists.yoctoproject.org>
>  
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> Why did that happen? When I sent the same patches 10 days ago to 
> the same destination, my address came out normal without the via 
> (I resent the patches because they had not appeared in Patchwork).
> 
> The reason I ask is because I expect this gives me a separate 
> entry in Patchwork for this address compared to my normal entry, 
> which complicates things when I want to search for my open patches.
> So if possible I would like to avoid this in the future...

It comes down to the rules your company set for the domain you're
sending from. If the mailing list isn't allowed to forward your message
its forced to rewrite the From address to something which it can send
from.

Did something in your domain's DMARC settings change?

Cheers,

Richard


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* Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info file has moved from build/conf to build/cache
  2020-02-20 22:38   ` Richard Purdie
@ 2020-02-21  9:29     ` Peter Kjellerstedt
  2020-02-21 14:32       ` Richard Purdie
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Peter Kjellerstedt @ 2020-02-21  9:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard Purdie, docs, Michael Halstead

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
> Sent: den 20 februari 2020 23:39
> To: docs@lists.yoctoproject.org; Michael Halstead
> <mhalstead@linuxfoundation.org>; Peter Kjellerstedt
> <peter.kjellerstedt@axis.com>
> Subject: Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info file
> has moved from build/conf to build/cache
> 
> On Thu, 2020-02-20 at 20:42 +0000, Peter Kjellerstedt via
> Lists.Yoctoproject.Org wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: docs@lists.yoctoproject.org <docs@lists.yoctoproject.org>
> > > On Behalf Of Peter Kjellerstedt
> > > via Lists.Yoctoproject.Org <
> > > peter.kjellerstedt=axis.com@lists.yoctoproject.org>
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > ^^^^^^^^^^
> > Why did that happen? When I sent the same patches 10 days ago to
> > the same destination, my address came out normal without the via
> > (I resent the patches because they had not appeared in Patchwork).
> >
> > The reason I ask is because I expect this gives me a separate
> > entry in Patchwork for this address compared to my normal entry,
> > which complicates things when I want to search for my open patches.
> > So if possible I would like to avoid this in the future...
> 
> It comes down to the rules your company set for the domain you're
> sending from. If the mailing list isn't allowed to forward your message
> its forced to rewrite the From address to something which it can send
> from.
> 
> Did something in your domain's DMARC settings change?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Richard

Not as far as I know. I am absolutely no expert on mail and DMARC, 
so I googled DMARC and found:

  https://www.dmarcanalyzer.com/dmarc/dmarc-record-check/

When I check our domain (axis.com) there, I get the following:

  v=DMARC1; p=none; sp=none; pct=100; rua=mailto:dmarcreports@axis.com; ruf=mailto:dmarcreports@axis.com

And if I understand that correctly, it should not be a problem 
for forwarding mails from me.

Any other ideas?

//Peter


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info file has moved from build/conf to build/cache
  2020-02-21  9:29     ` Peter Kjellerstedt
@ 2020-02-21 14:32       ` Richard Purdie
  2020-02-21 17:14         ` Peter Kjellerstedt
       [not found]         ` <15F57A48E3CAF9D8.9957@lists.yoctoproject.org>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2020-02-21 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Kjellerstedt, docs, Michael Halstead

On Fri, 2020-02-21 at 09:29 +0000, Peter Kjellerstedt wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
> > Sent: den 20 februari 2020 23:39
> > To: docs@lists.yoctoproject.org; Michael Halstead
> > <mhalstead@linuxfoundation.org>; Peter Kjellerstedt
> > <peter.kjellerstedt@axis.com>
> > Subject: Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info
> > file
> > has moved from build/conf to build/cache
> > 
> > On Thu, 2020-02-20 at 20:42 +0000, Peter Kjellerstedt via
> > Lists.Yoctoproject.Org wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: docs@lists.yoctoproject.org <docs@lists.yoctoproject.org>
> > > > On Behalf Of Peter Kjellerstedt
> > > > via Lists.Yoctoproject.Org <
> > > > peter.kjellerstedt=axis.com@lists.yoctoproject.org>
> > > 
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > ^^^^
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^
> > > Why did that happen? When I sent the same patches 10 days ago to
> > > the same destination, my address came out normal without the via
> > > (I resent the patches because they had not appeared in
> > > Patchwork).
> > > 
> > > The reason I ask is because I expect this gives me a separate
> > > entry in Patchwork for this address compared to my normal entry,
> > > which complicates things when I want to search for my open
> > > patches.
> > > So if possible I would like to avoid this in the future...
> > 
> > It comes down to the rules your company set for the domain you're
> > sending from. If the mailing list isn't allowed to forward your
> > message
> > its forced to rewrite the From address to something which it can
> > send
> > from.
> > 
> > Did something in your domain's DMARC settings change?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Richard
> 
> Not as far as I know. I am absolutely no expert on mail and DMARC, 
> so I googled DMARC and found:
> 
>   https://www.dmarcanalyzer.com/dmarc/dmarc-record-check/
> 
> When I check our domain (axis.com) there, I get the following:
> 
>   v=DMARC1; p=none; sp=none; pct=100; rua=mailto:
> dmarcreports@axis.com; ruf=mailto:dmarcreports@axis.com
> 
> And if I understand that correctly, it should not be a problem 
> for forwarding mails from me.
> 
> Any other ideas?

You can see what the server received:

https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/38

which is interesting to compare to:

https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/10

which looks like dkim was added to your domain and its marked as "fail"

 dkim=fail reason="signature has expired" header.i=@axis.com header.s=axis-central1 header.b=PiJ2ZuTp;

I then looked at another message from you:

https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/39

where dkim passes, spf fails.

then

https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/40

which is pass/pass.

https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/41

which is spf fail, dkim pass.

So there is a change in what you're sending and those pass/fails
changing like that look a little concerning. Quite what it means I'm
not sure. Did your IT department implement DKIM signatures, possibly
not quite correctly?

Cheers,

Richard




^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info file has moved from build/conf to build/cache
  2020-02-21 14:32       ` Richard Purdie
@ 2020-02-21 17:14         ` Peter Kjellerstedt
       [not found]         ` <15F57A48E3CAF9D8.9957@lists.yoctoproject.org>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Peter Kjellerstedt @ 2020-02-21 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard Purdie, docs, Michael Halstead

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
> Sent: den 21 februari 2020 15:32
> To: Peter Kjellerstedt <peter.kjellerstedt@axis.com>;
> docs@lists.yoctoproject.org; Michael Halstead
> <mhalstead@linuxfoundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info file
> has moved from build/conf to build/cache
> 
> On Fri, 2020-02-21 at 09:29 +0000, Peter Kjellerstedt wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
> > > Sent: den 20 februari 2020 23:39
> > > To: docs@lists.yoctoproject.org; Michael Halstead
> > > <mhalstead@linuxfoundation.org>; Peter Kjellerstedt
> > > <peter.kjellerstedt@axis.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info
> > > file
> > > has moved from build/conf to build/cache
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2020-02-20 at 20:42 +0000, Peter Kjellerstedt via
> > > Lists.Yoctoproject.Org wrote:
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: docs@lists.yoctoproject.org <docs@lists.yoctoproject.org>
> > > > > On Behalf Of Peter Kjellerstedt
> > > > > via Lists.Yoctoproject.Org <
> > > > > peter.kjellerstedt=axis.com@lists.yoctoproject.org>
> > > >
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > ^^^^
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > Why did that happen? When I sent the same patches 10 days ago to
> > > > the same destination, my address came out normal without the via
> > > > (I resent the patches because they had not appeared in
> > > > Patchwork).
> > > >
> > > > The reason I ask is because I expect this gives me a separate
> > > > entry in Patchwork for this address compared to my normal entry,
> > > > which complicates things when I want to search for my open
> > > > patches.
> > > > So if possible I would like to avoid this in the future...
> > >
> > > It comes down to the rules your company set for the domain you're
> > > sending from. If the mailing list isn't allowed to forward your
> > > message
> > > its forced to rewrite the From address to something which it can
> > > send
> > > from.
> > >
> > > Did something in your domain's DMARC settings change?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Richard
> >
> > Not as far as I know. I am absolutely no expert on mail and DMARC,
> > so I googled DMARC and found:
> >
> >   https://www.dmarcanalyzer.com/dmarc/dmarc-record-check/
> >
> > When I check our domain (axis.com) there, I get the following:
> >
> >   v=DMARC1; p=none; sp=none; pct=100; rua=mailto:
> > dmarcreports@axis.com; ruf=mailto:dmarcreports@axis.com
> >
> > And if I understand that correctly, it should not be a problem
> > for forwarding mails from me.
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> 
> You can see what the server received:
> 
> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/38
> 
> which is interesting to compare to:
> 
> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/10
> 
> which looks like dkim was added to your domain and its marked as "fail"
> 
>  dkim=fail reason="signature has expired" header.i=@axis.com
> header.s=axis-central1 header.b=PiJ2ZuTp;
> 
> I then looked at another message from you:
> 
> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/39
> 
> where dkim passes, spf fails.
> 
> then
> 
> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/40
> 
> which is pass/pass.
> 
> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/41
> 
> which is spf fail, dkim pass.
> 
> So there is a change in what you're sending and those pass/fails
> changing like that look a little concerning. Quite what it means I'm
> not sure. Did your IT department implement DKIM signatures, possibly
> not quite correctly?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Richard

Ok, that looks weird . But the question is who is at fault here. 
If I look at the header for 
https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/43, it says that 
the DKIM signature has expired:

  Authentication-Results: mx.groups.io;
   dkim=fail reason="signature has expired" header.i=@axis.com header.s=axis-central1 header.b=fkLlxsmo;
   spf=pass (domain: axis.com, ip: 195.60.68.18, mailfrom: peter.kjellerstedt@axis.com)
  DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
    d=axis.com; l=794; q=dns/txt; s=axis-central1;
    t=1582231361; x=1613767361;

However, the expiration time 1613767361 corresponds to Feb 19, 2021 
so it should clearly not be considered expired yet...

For https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/39, which 
marks spf as failed, it seems that groups.io has failed to 
determine the IP address of smtp2.axis.com:

 Received: from smtp2.axis.com (smtp2.axis.com [])
   by mx.groups.io with SMTP id smtpd.web10.1744.1582230457237069046
   for <docs@lists.yoctoproject.org>;
   Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:27:39 -0800
  Authentication-Results: mx.groups.io;
   dkim=pass header.i=@axis.com header.s=axis-central1 header.b=IlHR6+n9;
   spf=fail (domain: axis.com, ip: <nil>, mailfrom: peter.kjellerstedt@axis.com)

and with the "ip: <nil>" in the spf result I guess that can be 
assumed to be the cause of the spf failure. The odd thing here 
is that it managed to determine the IP address correctly for 
https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/original/38 that it 
received just a second earlier...

I have also tried the DKIM validator at https://tools.sparkpost.com/dkim 
and according to it the mails I send are ok...

The question now is if this was a temporary glitch or if it will 
continue. And if it was a glitch, has groups.io marked my address 
as "problematic" and will continue to forward my mails using the 
via address, or will it go back to normal...

//Peter


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* Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info file has moved from build/conf to build/cache
       [not found]         ` <15F57A48E3CAF9D8.9957@lists.yoctoproject.org>
@ 2020-02-21 17:17           ` Peter Kjellerstedt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Peter Kjellerstedt @ 2020-02-21 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: docs, Richard Purdie, Michael Halstead

> -----Original Message-----
> From: docs@lists.yoctoproject.org <docs@lists.yoctoproject.org> On Behalf
> Of Peter Kjellerstedt
> Sent: den 21 februari 2020 18:15
> To: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>;
> docs@lists.yoctoproject.org; Michael Halstead
> <mhalstead@linuxfoundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [docs] [Resend][PATCH 1/5] ref-manual: The sanity_info file
> has moved from build/conf to build/cache

[cut]

> The question now is if this was a temporary glitch or if it will
> continue. And if it was a glitch, has groups.io marked my address
> as "problematic" and will continue to forward my mails using the
> via address, or will it go back to normal...

I guess the header above answers that. Seems I'm back on the good 
senders list again. :)

//Peter


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