X not starting at all

X not starting at all

[joy]

Hello,
it's me again.
Thanks again for the help you guys gave me when I had a problem with my 
modules.
from when I had installed Woody, I was not able to startx as I have a 
Geforce4 MX 440 SE which was not supported by the nv driver in X (I have 
version 4.1.0.1)
I got a new driver from the Nvidia site (the latest is pkg2 I think, I 
have pkg0 ).I installed it and yet startx would not work.
since X loads its drivers from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers , I moved 
the new NV module (nvidia.ko ) and renamed it nv_drv.o which was the nv 
driver  (this is illogical, I know , but I was desperate.....)
and it gave me another error message module does not have nvModuledata 
data object and died on me. I just got Gnome 2.4 and I'm desperate to 
install it.
So anybody with the ideas flashing,
HELP!
thanx in advance,
Joy

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Re: X not starting at all

[joy]

Matthew Frederico wrote:

>>From the looks of it you are using a 2.6 kernel...  You have to have
>patched NVIDIA drivers to make this work.  You will probably get better
>support at http://www.nvnews.net, but IIRC, installing these drivers
>will get you working.  (It did for me)
>
>Here is the link to the 2.6 patched NVIDIA drivers:
>http://www.minion.de/
>
>Hope that helps!
>
>-- Matthew Frederico
>  
>
I did that, and all I got was the same error: X was trying to load the 
same nv driver even though the compilation process sucessfully 
installedf the nvidia.ko driver.
How do I work around this?

>On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 09:46, joy wrote:
>  
>
>>Hello,
>>it's me again.
>>Thanks again for the help you guys gave me when I had a problem with my 
>>modules.
>>from when I had installed Woody, I was not able to startx as I have a 
>>Geforce4 MX 440 SE which was not supported by the nv driver in X (I have 
>>version 4.1.0.1)
>>    
>>

>>I got a new driver from the Nvidia site (the latest is pkg2 I think, I 
>>have pkg0 ).I installed it and yet startx would not work.
>>since X loads its drivers from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers , I moved 
>>the new NV module (nvidia.ko ) and renamed it nv_drv.o which was the nv 
>>driver  (this is illogical, I know , but I was desperate.....)
>>and it gave me another error message module does not have nvModuledata 
>>data object and died on me. I just got Gnome 2.4 and I'm desperate to 
>>install it.
>>So anybody with the ideas flashing,
>>HELP!
>>thanx in advance,
>>Joy
>>
>>    
>>
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Re: X not starting at all

[beolach]

Here are the steps I used to setup X on my computer with a nVidia GeForce4 Ti4200.  You should be able to do exactly the same thing with your card.

1: Run 'xf86config'.  Choose 18 "NVIDIA (generic)" for the card definition.  This generates a good XF86Config file using XFree86's nv driver.  This command will also allow you to specify the resolution(s) X will run at (can be cycled with ctrl-alt-+ & ctrl-alt--).  After doing this, X should work, but without hardware accelerated OpenGL.

2a: These weren't available when I did it, but now you can download the latest nvidia driver already patched to word with 2.6 from:
<http://www.sh.nu/download/nvidia/linux-2.6/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5328-pkg0.run>

2b: If you don't trust that file, download nvidia's driver from nvidia's official site, and patch it with the patch from <http://minion.de>.  This is what I did, so I can personally vouch for it; but it's more work.  If you decide you want to do this, follow the instructions on the minion site; I'll outline the other (easier) method.

3: Run the patched installer as root.  It should install everything to the correct locations automatically.

4: Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (or XF86Config) and change the line that says:
	Driver	"nv"
to
	Driver	"nvidia"

For OpenGL (3D support), make sure that in the module section it has the line:
	Load		"glx"
and does NOT have (or they are commented out):
	Load		"dri"
	Load		"GLcore"

5: Should work.  Try startx now.

GL,
Conway S. Smith
>> [snip]
> 
> Thanks again, the problem was that nvidia_drv.o was not being placed in 
> the right place (/usr/...)
> I had to do a find .|grep nvidia to find the module(buried in the 
> NVIDIA...... installation directory)
> and cp it to the right place <phew>. Now xinit works fine but startx 
> hangs. Also my shiny new 2.6.1 kernel locks hard pretty often
> (considering that my 2.4 kernel never did) Any ideas as to Why???????
> and how do I change the resolution?
> 
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Re: X not starting at all

[joy]

>This (obviously) doesn't work.  What it is, is the nvidia driver has two
>parts; a kernel module (the nvidia.ko file), and a X driver.  When you run
>the installer from nvidia's website, they should install to the correct
>locations - you shouldn't need to move any files (the correct locations are
>/lib/modules/2.6.1/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko &
>/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o).  What you will need to do
>is edit the X config file, usually /etc/X11/XF86Config or XF86Config-4.
>In this file, you need to go to the display device section and change the
>line that says:
>    Driver      "nv"
>to say
>    Driver      "nvidia"
>  
>
Thanks again, the problem was that nvidia_drv.o was not being placed in 
the right place (/usr/...)
I had to do a find .|grep nvidia to find the module(buried in the 
NVIDIA...... installation directory)
and cp it to the right place <phew>. Now xinit works fine but startx 
hangs. Also my shiny new 2.6.1 kernel locks hard pretty often
(considering that my 2.4 kernel never did) Any ideas as to Why???????
and how do I change the resolution?



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Re: X not starting at all

[beolach]

Sorry if this is a repost, I thought I had already sent this (and it is in
my "Sent Messages") but I never saw it come through the list.

> Hello,
> it's me again.
> Thanks again for the help you guys gave me when I had a problem with my 
> modules.
> from when I had installed Woody, I was not able to startx as I have a 
> Geforce4 MX 440 SE which was not supported by the nv driver in X (I have 
> version 4.1.0.1)
> I got a new driver from the Nvidia site (the latest is pkg2 I think, I 
> have pkg0 ).I installed it and yet startx would not work.

The pkg-# on the nvidia driver's really don't matter; the only difference
in the different numbers is the precompiled kernel versions already in the
package; and since the package includes the source it can compile the
kernel module in a couple minutes if your kernel version doesn't happen to
be one of the supported versions in the package.

> since X loads its drivers from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers , I moved 
> the new NV module (nvidia.ko ) and renamed it nv_drv.o which was the nv 
> driver  (this is illogical, I know , but I was desperate.....)

> and it gave me another error message module does not have nvModuledata 
> data object and died on me. I just got Gnome 2.4 and I'm desperate to 
> install it.

This (obviously) doesn't work.  What it is, is the nvidia driver has two
parts; a kernel module (the nvidia.ko file), and a X driver.  When you run
the installer from nvidia's website, they should install to the correct
locations - you shouldn't need to move any files (the correct locations are
/lib/modules/2.6.1/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko &
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o).  What you will need to do
is edit the X config file, usually /etc/X11/XF86Config or XF86Config-4.
In this file, you need to go to the display device section and change the
line that says:
    Driver      "nv"
to say
    Driver      "nvidia"

Also, assuming you want OpenGL support, make sure the XF86Config file also
has a line that says:
    Load       "glx"

That should be it: run the install program & edit XF86Config.

If you still have any problems, check nvidia's README at
<ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-5328/README>

> So anybody with the ideas flashing,
> HELP!
> thanx in advance,
> Joy
> 

Hope this helps,
Conway S. Smith
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Re: X not starting at all

[joy]

Hi,
I did what was told of me (i.e apply the minion.de patch) and install to 
my 2.6.1.I tried installing using the modified nvidia installer but it 
would'nt.
So, I  did a make install . the nvidia module was loaded and my 
Xf86config-4 (using debconf) was modified to nvidia.
Now it says could not find module 'nvidia'. the nvidia.o module is in my 
/root/Nvidia/..... folder .sholud I declare this path in the XF86 config-4?
'coz it is still trying to load the modules from 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers.

Thanx in adv.,
Joy.

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