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From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@drdos.com>
To: jonathan@jonmasters.org
Cc: "jmerkey@comcast.net" <jmerkey@comcast.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:53:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <415DD1ED.6030101@drdos.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35fb2e590410011509712b7d1@mail.gmail.com>

Jon Masters wrote:

>>Then anyone who uses the code in a commerical enterprise will be required to get a
>>license, and you can actually do something about it.
>>    
>>
>
>They have a license. If they distribute products then they are bound
>by the terms of the GPL and this is a pretty obvious license.
>
>  
>
Try enforcing it in court when they get a dozen of their engineers to 
lie and state they reviewed the code on one terminal and
converted it by writing new code on another. There's no moral anything 
with some of these big companies and their employees
will say whatever they have to. I've been there, in the real world, all 
GPL means is you are giving away your IP to whomever is running
whatever effort and you have little recourse. The GPL is tough to 
enforce the way its worded for individuals. There's too much
wiggle room for people to use. Alan Cox in a previous email basically 
stated, " they are being nice and answering emails." Doesn't look
like it takes much for these people to smooch and kiss up to folks. They 
will always come back to the table like foxes from the
henhouse, with chicken feathers all over their lips saying "show me the 
chickens."

>>Oops.  Too late.  Linux has a huge trail of everyone's code under the GPL so you cannot
>>re-release the code under another license unless the entire code base is re-written.
>>    
>>
>
>Pretty cool stuff huh?
>  
>

Yep.

Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-01 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-01 17:40 Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone jmerkey
2004-10-01 18:23 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-10-01 19:34 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-01 19:46   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-01 20:38     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-01 20:40     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-01 22:09 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 21:53   ` Jeff V. Merkey [this message]
2004-10-01 23:51     ` Michael Poole
2004-10-02  2:00     ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]       ` <20041002064620.GA8568@galt.devicelogics.com>
2004-10-02 10:27         ` Jon Masters
2004-10-02 17:34     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-03 11:46       ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-03 11:59         ` Jon Masters
2004-10-03 22:01         ` Alan Cox
2004-10-04  0:23           ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 19:21       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 20:24         ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 21:22           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:32             ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 22:57             ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-08  8:19             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2004-10-07 21:07         ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-07 21:16           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 21:40         ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 21:17           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:02             ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 21:29               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-08 12:27                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-08 18:24                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-08 18:42                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-09  9:50                       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-10-08 12:16               ` Alan Cox
2004-10-07 22:18             ` Dave Jones
2004-10-07 21:51               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:41                 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-08  0:47                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07 23:50                 ` viro
2004-10-08  0:40                 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-10-08  0:59                   ` Jon Masters
     [not found]                     ` <20041008032034.GD3528@galt.devicelogics.com>
2004-10-08  7:15                       ` Jon Masters
2004-10-08 12:38                         ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 12:50                           ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 13:48                           ` Bruce Ferrell
2004-10-08 15:14                             ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08  2:48                 ` Erik Andersen
2004-10-10  6:35               ` Brian Litzinger
2004-10-10 13:25                 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-10 22:26                   ` Jon Masters
2004-10-11 11:57                     ` Tonnerre
2004-10-08  2:40         ` Erik Andersen
2004-10-08  8:50           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-10-08 11:08             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-04 20:26     ` Jesse Pollard
2004-10-02 12:35 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-10-04 18:03 ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-29 13:44 Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 14:52 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-01 14:20   ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 15:59     ` Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 16:00       ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 16:24       ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 15:59         ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 17:18           ` Jon Masters
2005-01-07 21:48           ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-15 13:43             ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-26 16:47               ` Jonathan McDowell
2004-10-01 17:24       ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-10-01 16:14     ` James Courtier-Dutton

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