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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@drdos.com>
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, jmerkey@comcast.net,
	Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 22:38:23 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.61.0410012235470.25126@waterleaf.sonytel.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <415DB427.7050108@drdos.com>

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
> > So you have three choices: You can accept the terms of the GPL, and comply
> > with them, or you can not ship those pieces covered by the GPL (basically
> > the entire kernel), or you can ship it in violation and wait for the hate
> > mail to start arriving..... 
> > 
> >  
> And the hate mail is the only thing that will arrive.   The GPL doesn't really
> seem
> to protect anyone since the copyright holders really can't do much with it.
> I've
> got a bunch of people using GPL code I've put out there in all sorts of
> commercial
> products and Can't do anything to them for failing to return changes.  They
> can always
> say they didn't accept the license then convert the code into their own IP .

If they didn't accept the license, they fall back to standard copyright, and
are not allowed to distribute. End of story.

According to your reasonings, copyright holders cannot do anything neither for
other examples of copyright violation. Try distributing other copyrighted work
(non-free software or non-free music or non-free movies) on your website and
see what happens. You can always say `but I didn't accept the license' :-)

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
							    -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-01 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-01 17:40 Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone jmerkey
2004-10-01 18:23 ` Jesse Pollard
2004-10-01 19:34 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-01 19:46   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-01 20:38     ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2004-10-01 20:40     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-01 22:09 ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 21:53   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-01 23:51     ` Michael Poole
2004-10-02  2:00     ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]       ` <20041002064620.GA8568@galt.devicelogics.com>
2004-10-02 10:27         ` Jon Masters
2004-10-02 17:34     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-03 11:46       ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-03 11:59         ` Jon Masters
2004-10-03 22:01         ` Alan Cox
2004-10-04  0:23           ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 19:21       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 20:24         ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 21:22           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:32             ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 22:57             ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-08  8:19             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2004-10-07 21:07         ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-07 21:16           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 21:40         ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 21:17           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:02             ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 21:29               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-08 12:27                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-08 18:24                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-08 18:42                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-09  9:50                       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-10-08 12:16               ` Alan Cox
2004-10-07 22:18             ` Dave Jones
2004-10-07 21:51               ` Jeff V. Merkey
2004-10-07 22:41                 ` Dave Jones
2004-10-08  0:47                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07 23:50                 ` viro
2004-10-08  0:40                 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-10-08  0:59                   ` Jon Masters
     [not found]                     ` <20041008032034.GD3528@galt.devicelogics.com>
2004-10-08  7:15                       ` Jon Masters
2004-10-08 12:38                         ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 12:50                           ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08 13:48                           ` Bruce Ferrell
2004-10-08 15:14                             ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-08  2:48                 ` Erik Andersen
2004-10-10  6:35               ` Brian Litzinger
2004-10-10 13:25                 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-10 22:26                   ` Jon Masters
2004-10-11 11:57                     ` Tonnerre
2004-10-08  2:40         ` Erik Andersen
2004-10-08  8:50           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-10-08 11:08             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-04 20:26     ` Jesse Pollard
2004-10-02 12:35 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-10-04 18:03 ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-29 13:44 Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 14:52 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-01 14:20   ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 15:59     ` Ralph Corderoy
2004-10-01 16:00       ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 16:24       ` Jon Masters
2004-10-01 15:59         ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 17:18           ` Jon Masters
2005-01-07 21:48           ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-15 13:43             ` Jonathan McDowell
2005-01-26 16:47               ` Jonathan McDowell
2004-10-01 17:24       ` Tigran Aivazian
2004-10-01 16:14     ` James Courtier-Dutton

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