i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

[Robert P. J. Day]

  i think it would be useful if the BSP guide was expanded just a bit
to make it much clearer that the alleged meta-intel "BSP layer" (since
that's how it's referred to) is not *really* a full BSP layer but an
umbrella over multiple intel-based BSP layers, with some common
content.

  it's obviously useful to use a real example to explain how a BSP
layer works, but it would have been more informative if the guide had
used a truly standalone layer, *then* perhaps segued nicely into
meta-layers like meta-intel and meta-ti, etc.

  as it is, i think the current explanation is a bit awkward given
that the crownbay layer.conf file is explained before the first
mention of the meta-intel layer.  a simple solution might be a
prominent <note> before all that starts, emphasizing how what follows
is a little bit different since it involves *two* layers, not just
one.  then it would make much more sense.

  thoughts?

rday

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Re: i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

[Rifenbark, Scott M]

I think what I can do here is add to the paragraph that talks about some BSP layers requiring additional layers on top.  I can call out meta-intel specifically here and describe that.  That section does have a link back to the "Understanding and Creating Layers" section in the dev manual where meta-intel is specifically discussed.

Scott

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Subject: [yocto] i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide


  i think it would be useful if the BSP guide was expanded just a bit
to make it much clearer that the alleged meta-intel "BSP layer" (since
that's how it's referred to) is not *really* a full BSP layer but an
umbrella over multiple intel-based BSP layers, with some common
content.

  it's obviously useful to use a real example to explain how a BSP
layer works, but it would have been more informative if the guide had
used a truly standalone layer, *then* perhaps segued nicely into
meta-layers like meta-intel and meta-ti, etc.

  as it is, i think the current explanation is a bit awkward given
that the crownbay layer.conf file is explained before the first
mention of the meta-intel layer.  a simple solution might be a
prominent <note> before all that starts, emphasizing how what follows
is a little bit different since it involves *two* layers, not just
one.  then it would make much more sense.

  thoughts?

rday

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Re: i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:

> I think what I can do here is add to the paragraph that talks about
> some BSP layers requiring additional layers on top.  I can call out
> meta-intel specifically here and describe that.  That section does
> have a link back to the "Understanding and Creating Layers" section
> in the dev manual where meta-intel is specifically discussed.

  i think that would do, i was just concerned about tossing the reader
an example that involved two "layers" of BSP as an introduction.  it
might be worth mentioning meta-ti as another example, just so the
reader doesn't get the impression meta-intel is the only possibility
there.

  i will think on this more.

rday

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Robert P. J. Day                                 Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
                        http://crashcourse.ca

Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
LinkedIn:                               http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
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Re: i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

[Rifenbark, Scott M]

Good points Robert.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert P. J. Day [mailto:rpjday@crashcourse.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:21 AM
To: Rifenbark, Scott M
Cc: Yocto discussion list
Subject: RE: [yocto] i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:

> I think what I can do here is add to the paragraph that talks about
> some BSP layers requiring additional layers on top.  I can call out
> meta-intel specifically here and describe that.  That section does
> have a link back to the "Understanding and Creating Layers" section
> in the dev manual where meta-intel is specifically discussed.

  i think that would do, i was just concerned about tossing the reader
an example that involved two "layers" of BSP as an introduction.  it
might be worth mentioning meta-ti as another example, just so the
reader doesn't get the impression meta-intel is the only possibility
there.

  i will think on this more.

rday

-- 

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Robert P. J. Day                                 Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
                        http://crashcourse.ca

Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
LinkedIn:                               http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
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Re: i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

[Rifenbark, Scott M]

I looked at meta-ti and I don't see other BSP Layers within it.  I see the recipe-* stuff, conf, classes, etc.  Can someone explain how meta-ti is like meta-intel?

Scott

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Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:28 AM
To: Robert P. J. Day
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Subject: Re: [yocto] i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

Good points Robert.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert P. J. Day [mailto:rpjday@crashcourse.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:21 AM
To: Rifenbark, Scott M
Cc: Yocto discussion list
Subject: RE: [yocto] i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:

> I think what I can do here is add to the paragraph that talks about
> some BSP layers requiring additional layers on top.  I can call out
> meta-intel specifically here and describe that.  That section does
> have a link back to the "Understanding and Creating Layers" section
> in the dev manual where meta-intel is specifically discussed.

  i think that would do, i was just concerned about tossing the reader
an example that involved two "layers" of BSP as an introduction.  it
might be worth mentioning meta-ti as another example, just so the
reader doesn't get the impression meta-intel is the only possibility
there.

  i will think on this more.

rday

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                        http://crashcourse.ca

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Re: i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:

> I looked at meta-ti and I don't see other BSP Layers within it.  I
> see the recipe-* stuff, conf, classes, etc.  Can someone explain how
> meta-ti is like meta-intel?

  actually, that was me misspeaking since i hadn't taken a close look
at meta-ti yet and just *assumed* it would be like meta-intel.  upon
further examination, that's clearly not true.

rday

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Robert P. J. Day                                 Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
                        http://crashcourse.ca

Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
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Re: i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

[Rifenbark, Scott M]

Okay - thanks.  I will limit it to meta-intel.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert P. J. Day [mailto:rpjday@crashcourse.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:53 AM
To: Rifenbark, Scott M
Cc: Yocto discussion list
Subject: RE: [yocto] i think the meta-intel "BSP layer" needs to be clarified in BSP guide

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:

> I looked at meta-ti and I don't see other BSP Layers within it.  I
> see the recipe-* stuff, conf, classes, etc.  Can someone explain how
> meta-ti is like meta-intel?

  actually, that was me misspeaking since i hadn't taken a close look
at meta-ti yet and just *assumed* it would be like meta-intel.  upon
further examination, that's clearly not true.

rday

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Robert P. J. Day                                 Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
                        http://crashcourse.ca

Twitter:                                       http://twitter.com/rpjday
LinkedIn:                               http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday
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