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From: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, dyoung@redhat.com,
	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kernel: add panic_on_taint
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 20:28:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <438575BA-00CA-44BF-8C4C-693DCC00FDD1@lca.pw> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200507233634.GA367616@optiplex-lnx>



> On May 7, 2020, at 7:36 PM, Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 07:07:20PM -0400, Qian Cai wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's a reasonable and self-contained feature that we have a valid use for. 
>>> I honestly fail to see it causing that amount of annoyance as you are 
>>> suggesting here.
>> 
>> It is not a big trouble yet, but keeping an obsolete patch that not very straightforward to figure out that it will be superseded by the panic_on_taint patch will only cause more confusion the longer it has stayed in linux-next.
>> 
>> The thing is that even if you can’t get this panic_on_taint (the superior solution) patch accepted for some reasons, someone else could still work on it until it get merged.
>> 
>> Thus, I failed to see any possibility we will go back to the inferior solution (mm-slub-add-panic_on_error-to-the-debug-facilities.patch) by all means.
>> 
> 
> There are plenty of examples of things being added, changed, and
> removed in -next. IOW, living in a transient state. I think it's 
> a reasonable compromise to keep it while the other one is beind 
> ironed out.
> 
> The fact that you prefer one solution to another doesn't
> invalidate the one you dislike. 

As far I can tell, the bar of the other core subsystems are quite high even for linux-next. People have been voiced over and over again to urge Andrew not picking up patches so eagerly, but I will save that discussion for the next time.

Anyway, thanks for working for the panic_on_taint patch. I believe it could be useful for all testing agents to catch those bad pages earlier.

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From: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	dyoung@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kernel: add panic_on_taint
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 20:28:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <438575BA-00CA-44BF-8C4C-693DCC00FDD1@lca.pw> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200507233634.GA367616@optiplex-lnx>



> On May 7, 2020, at 7:36 PM, Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 07:07:20PM -0400, Qian Cai wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's a reasonable and self-contained feature that we have a valid use for. 
>>> I honestly fail to see it causing that amount of annoyance as you are 
>>> suggesting here.
>> 
>> It is not a big trouble yet, but keeping an obsolete patch that not very straightforward to figure out that it will be superseded by the panic_on_taint patch will only cause more confusion the longer it has stayed in linux-next.
>> 
>> The thing is that even if you can’t get this panic_on_taint (the superior solution) patch accepted for some reasons, someone else could still work on it until it get merged.
>> 
>> Thus, I failed to see any possibility we will go back to the inferior solution (mm-slub-add-panic_on_error-to-the-debug-facilities.patch) by all means.
>> 
> 
> There are plenty of examples of things being added, changed, and
> removed in -next. IOW, living in a transient state. I think it's 
> a reasonable compromise to keep it while the other one is beind 
> ironed out.
> 
> The fact that you prefer one solution to another doesn't
> invalidate the one you dislike. 

As far I can tell, the bar of the other core subsystems are quite high even for linux-next. People have been voiced over and over again to urge Andrew not picking up patches so eagerly, but I will save that discussion for the next time.

Anyway, thanks for working for the panic_on_taint patch. I believe it could be useful for all testing agents to catch those bad pages earlier.
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-08  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-06 22:28 [PATCH] kernel: add panic_on_taint Rafael Aquini
2020-05-06 22:28 ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-06 23:24 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-06 23:24   ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-07  0:12   ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-07  0:12     ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-07  0:20 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-05-07  0:20   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-05-07  2:50 ` Qian Cai
2020-05-07  2:50   ` Qian Cai
2020-05-07 20:42   ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-07 20:42     ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-07 22:05     ` Qian Cai
2020-05-07 22:05       ` Qian Cai
2020-05-07 22:15       ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-07 22:15         ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-07 23:07         ` Qian Cai
2020-05-07 23:07           ` Qian Cai
2020-05-07 23:36           ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-07 23:36             ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-08  0:28             ` Qian Cai [this message]
2020-05-08  0:28               ` Qian Cai

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