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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:39:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45BEF61F.7000400@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070130065457.GA23390@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> i'm wondering, could we go with Thomas' temporary patch that disables 
> sky2 MSI if CONFIG_PM is enabled - we could revert that after 2.6.20. 
> It's not like MSI is a life and death feature. On IO-APIC systems 
> vectors are abundant and in any case we share irqs just fine. The true 
> advantage of MSI is minimal. (MSI-X has the potential to be better by 
> being message based, but in reality it still goes through the full IRQ 
> layer.) MSI might be useful on really, really large systems - but i 
> really hope those really large systems dont rely on CONFIG_PM. Meanwhile 
> Thomas' patch maximizes the amount of working hardware (it has the 
> chance to produce working systems in 100% of the cases) - which is a few 
> orders of magnitude more important than IRQ management micro-costs. Am i 
> missing anything?


Sharing irqs /sucks/.  I routinely have to fight a USB device dying, 
because the ATA device is causing an interrupt storm, or vice versa. 
/Very/ common headache.

Other than that, they use a tiny bit fewer CPU cycles, and allow 
simplification of the interrupt handler (saving another few CPU cycles).

The biggest benefit is (a) for hardware designers, where MSI means a 
cleaner h/w design, and (b) preparation of drivers and the kernel 
systems for MSI-only hardware.

At present only high end hardware is MSI-only (like infiniband), but 
that's the future direction.

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-30  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-25  2:58 Linux 2.6.20-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2007-01-25 10:09 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-01-25 11:10 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - build failure Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-01-26  2:22   ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-01-26 10:49     ` [Ocfs2-devel] [2.6 patch] fix OCFS2 compile error Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:49       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 11:47       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Mark Fasheh
2007-01-26 19:47         ` Mark Fasheh
2007-01-26 11:53         ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 19:53           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:46   ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - build failure Mark Fasheh
2007-01-25 17:50 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 Arkadiusz Patyk
2007-01-25 21:05 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-01-25 21:12   ` David Miller
2007-01-26 16:52     ` Venkat Yekkirala
2007-01-26 18:10 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (part 1) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:11 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (part 2) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:11   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:11   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:16   ` Malte Schröder
2007-01-27 17:28     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:39       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-26 19:04   ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-01-26 19:04     ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-01-26 19:04     ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-01-26 19:08     ` Venkat Yekkirala
2007-01-26 18:18 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known regressions with patches Adrian Bunk
2007-01-29  8:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-29 12:58     ` Dave Jones
2007-01-27 17:32 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (v2) (part 1) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:42 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (v2) (part 2) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:42   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-28 13:33   ` Uwe Bugla
2007-01-28 13:33     ` Uwe Bugla
2007-01-28 23:21     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-02 12:58       ` Uwe Bugla
2007-01-29  6:26     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29  6:26       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29  6:48       ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-29  6:48         ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-29  7:08         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29  7:08           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29  7:13           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29  7:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29  7:04       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29  7:19         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 10:01         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 18:16           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 18:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30  4:14               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 17:16         ` Mike Christie
2007-01-29 20:37         ` Mike Christie
2007-01-29 20:58           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 22:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 23:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 23:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 23:42                   ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30  0:23                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30  0:55                       ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30  1:04                         ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30  1:45                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30  2:50                             ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30  3:02                               ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30  3:08                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-30  2:18                                 ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30  3:33                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-30  4:44                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30  4:00                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-30  3:25           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-30  4:14           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-02-02 13:07         ` Uwe Bugla
2007-01-27 17:44 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known regressions with patches (v2) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 20:47 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - supend lockdep warning Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-27 20:55 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 19:31   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 20:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 21:38       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 22:23         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:23           ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 22:31             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:37           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 22:40             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 23:04               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 23:45                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30  0:12                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30  0:16                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30  0:25                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30  0:26                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30  0:38                         ` [PATCH] sky2: revert IRQ dance on suspend/resume Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30  0:43                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30  0:41                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30  6:54                         ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage Ingo Molnar
2007-01-30  7:39                           ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-01-30  7:53                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-30  8:02                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30  8:08                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-30  8:13                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-31 15:27                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:38                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-31 17:52                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 20:13                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-30  8:03                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01  6:15                             ` [LIBATA BUG] sr.c: TEST_UNIT_READY error Conke Hu
2007-02-07 12:40                               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-02-02  5:48                                 ` Conke Hu
2007-02-13  7:30                                   ` Conke Hu
2007-02-15  6:30                                     ` Conke Hu
2007-01-30  8:57                     ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage Len Brown
2007-01-30 16:01                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-01-30 21:28                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-02-01 12:49                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-29 23:42             ` [PATCH] sky2: fix MSI related " Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:38           ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 " Frédéric Riss
2007-01-29 22:45             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:50               ` Frédéric Riss
2007-01-29 22:57                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 23:26                   ` Frédéric Riss
2007-01-29 23:37                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 23:50                       ` [PATCH] block MSI on Sony Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30  0:22                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-30  0:21                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30  0:31                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-30  0:31                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30  0:26                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-27 22:11 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - suspend / resume ata_piix Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-27 22:40   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-27 22:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-28 22:05       ` Thomas Gleixner

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