From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:04:06 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0701291501180.3611@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070129144055.151cfe52@freekitty>
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>
> MSI works fine for almost all systems (except AMD systems where
> MSI is broken for ALL devices).
Why do you ignore reality?
MSI does *not* work fine, exactly because the firmware screws it up.
The fact that on a "hardware level" it may work is totally irrelevant. The
*only* thing that matters is what people actually see.
"Positivism" may not be a hot philosophy these days any more, but dang, it
certainly is better than what you seem to espouse: "in theory things work
fine".
And if you don't like positivism, how about just simple scientific method:
a theory is *proven*wrong* by a single observation to the opposite. And we
have several people standing up saying that your theory is wrong.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-29 23:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-25 2:58 Linux 2.6.20-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2007-01-25 10:09 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-01-25 11:10 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - build failure Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-01-26 2:22 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-01-26 10:49 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [2.6 patch] fix OCFS2 compile error Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:49 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 11:47 ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Mark Fasheh
2007-01-26 19:47 ` Mark Fasheh
2007-01-26 11:53 ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 19:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:46 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - build failure Mark Fasheh
2007-01-25 17:50 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 Arkadiusz Patyk
2007-01-25 21:05 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-01-25 21:12 ` David Miller
2007-01-26 16:52 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2007-01-26 18:10 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (part 1) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:11 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (part 2) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:11 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:11 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:16 ` Malte Schröder
2007-01-27 17:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-26 19:04 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-01-26 19:04 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-01-26 19:04 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-01-26 19:08 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2007-01-26 18:18 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known regressions with patches Adrian Bunk
2007-01-29 8:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-29 12:58 ` Dave Jones
2007-01-27 17:32 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (v2) (part 1) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:42 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (v2) (part 2) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-28 13:33 ` Uwe Bugla
2007-01-28 13:33 ` Uwe Bugla
2007-01-28 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-02 12:58 ` Uwe Bugla
2007-01-29 6:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 6:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 6:48 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-29 6:48 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-29 7:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 7:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 7:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 7:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 7:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 7:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 10:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 18:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30 4:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 17:16 ` Mike Christie
2007-01-29 20:37 ` Mike Christie
2007-01-29 20:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 22:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 23:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 23:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 23:42 ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30 0:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30 0:55 ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30 1:04 ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30 1:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30 2:50 ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30 3:02 ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30 3:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-30 2:18 ` Mike Christie
2007-01-30 3:33 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-30 4:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30 4:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-30 3:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-30 4:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-02-02 13:07 ` Uwe Bugla
2007-01-27 17:44 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known regressions with patches (v2) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 20:47 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - supend lockdep warning Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-27 20:55 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 19:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 20:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 21:38 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 22:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 22:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 22:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 23:04 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-01-29 23:45 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30 0:16 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30 0:26 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:38 ` [PATCH] sky2: revert IRQ dance on suspend/resume Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30 0:41 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 6:54 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage Ingo Molnar
2007-01-30 7:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 7:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-30 8:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-30 8:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-31 15:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-31 17:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 20:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-30 8:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 6:15 ` [LIBATA BUG] sr.c: TEST_UNIT_READY error Conke Hu
2007-02-07 12:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-02-02 5:48 ` Conke Hu
2007-02-13 7:30 ` Conke Hu
2007-02-15 6:30 ` Conke Hu
2007-01-30 8:57 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage Len Brown
2007-01-30 16:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-01-30 21:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-02-01 12:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-29 23:42 ` [PATCH] sky2: fix MSI related " Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:38 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 " Frédéric Riss
2007-01-29 22:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:50 ` Frédéric Riss
2007-01-29 22:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 23:26 ` Frédéric Riss
2007-01-29 23:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 23:50 ` [PATCH] block MSI on Sony Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-30 0:21 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-30 0:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-27 22:11 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - suspend / resume ata_piix Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-27 22:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-27 22:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-28 22:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
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