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From: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>
To: "Michal Simek" <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	"Michal Simek" <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alvaro Gamez <alvaro.gamez@hazent.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] dt-bindings: pwm: Add Xilinx AXI Timer
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 13:31:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45b3c713-952e-610f-0a98-ed8e48825e97@seco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e7c9d00-bacb-325a-c8f6-413ad9da5f73@xilinx.com>



On 7/2/21 8:40 AM, Michal Simek wrote:
>
>
> On 7/1/21 5:32 PM, Sean Anderson wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 6/30/21 9:47 AM, Michal Simek wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/28/21 11:45 PM, Sean Anderson wrote:
>>>> This adds a binding for the Xilinx LogiCORE IP AXI Timer. This device is
>>>> a "soft" block, so it has many parameters which would not be
>>>> configurable in most hardware. This binding is usually automatically
>>>> generated by Xilinx's tools, so the names and values of some properties
>>>> must be kept as they are. Replacement properties have been provided for
>>>> new device trees.
>>>>
>>>> Because we need to init timer devices so early in boot, the easiest way
>>>> to configure things is to use a device tree property. For the moment
>>>> this is 'xlnx,pwm', but this could be extended/renamed/etc. in the
>>>> future if these is a need for a generic property.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Changes in v4:
>>>> - Remove references to generate polarity so this can get merged
>>>> - Predicate PWM driver on the presence of #pwm-cells
>>>> - Make some properties optional for clocksource drivers
>>>>
>>>> Changes in v3:
>>>> - Mark all boolean-as-int properties as deprecated
>>>> - Add xlnx,pwm and xlnx,gen?-active-low properties.
>>>> - Make newer replacement properties mutually-exclusive with what they
>>>>   replace
>>>> - Add an example with non-deprecated properties only.
>>>>
>>>> Changes in v2:
>>>> - Use 32-bit addresses for example binding
>>>>
>>>>  .../bindings/pwm/xlnx,axi-timer.yaml          | 85 +++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 85 insertions(+)
>>>>  create mode 100644
>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pwm/xlnx,axi-timer.yaml
>>>>
>>>> diff --git
>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pwm/xlnx,axi-timer.yaml
>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pwm/xlnx,axi-timer.yaml
>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>> index 000000000000..48a280f96e63
>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pwm/xlnx,axi-timer.yaml
>>>
>>> I don't think this is the right location for this.
>>>
>>> I have done some grepping and I think this should be done in a different
>>> way. I pretty much like solution around "ti,omap3430-timer" which is
>>> calling dmtimer_systimer_select_best() and later dmtimer_is_preferred()
>>> which in this case would allow us to get rid of cases which are not
>>> suitable for clocksource and clockevent.
>>>
>>> And there is drivers/pwm/pwm-omap-dmtimer.c which has link to timer
>>> which is providing functions for it's functionality.
>>>
>>> I have also looked at
>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/nxp,tpm-timer.yaml which is also
>>> the same device.
>>
>> Ok, I will move this under bindings/timer.
>>
>>>
>>> And sort of curious if you look at
>>>
>> https://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/ip_documentation/axi_timer/v2_0/pg079-axi-timer.pdf
>>
>>> ( Figure 1-1)
>>> that PWM is taking input from generate out 0 and generate out 1 which is
>>> maybe can be modeled is any output and pwm driver can register inputs
>>> for pwm driver.
>>
>> I don't think that is a good model, since several bits (GENERATE, PWM,
>> etc) need to be set in the TCSR, and we need to coordinate changes
>> between timers closely to keep our contract for apply_state(). Although
>> that is how the hardware is organized, the requirements of the
>> clocksource and pwm subsystems are very different.
>
> There is another upstream solution done by samsung. Where they use
> samsung,pwm-outputs property to identify PWMs.

As I understand it, the samsung PWM/timer has 5 timers, four of which
may be independently configured as PWMs. To contrast, this device has at
most two timers, both of which must be used for a single PWM output.
Because of this, it is sufficient to have a single property whose
presence indicates that the device is to be configured as a PWM.

> I think that make sense to consider to identify which timer should be
> clocksource/clockevent because with MB SMP this has to be done to pair
> timer with cpu for clockevents.

This is not done by the current driver. The first timer in the system
always binds itself to CPU 0.

--Sean

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>
To: "Michal Simek" <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	"Michal Simek" <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alvaro Gamez <alvaro.gamez@hazent.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] dt-bindings: pwm: Add Xilinx AXI Timer
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 13:31:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45b3c713-952e-610f-0a98-ed8e48825e97@seco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e7c9d00-bacb-325a-c8f6-413ad9da5f73@xilinx.com>



On 7/2/21 8:40 AM, Michal Simek wrote:
>
>
> On 7/1/21 5:32 PM, Sean Anderson wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 6/30/21 9:47 AM, Michal Simek wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/28/21 11:45 PM, Sean Anderson wrote:
>>>> This adds a binding for the Xilinx LogiCORE IP AXI Timer. This device is
>>>> a "soft" block, so it has many parameters which would not be
>>>> configurable in most hardware. This binding is usually automatically
>>>> generated by Xilinx's tools, so the names and values of some properties
>>>> must be kept as they are. Replacement properties have been provided for
>>>> new device trees.
>>>>
>>>> Because we need to init timer devices so early in boot, the easiest way
>>>> to configure things is to use a device tree property. For the moment
>>>> this is 'xlnx,pwm', but this could be extended/renamed/etc. in the
>>>> future if these is a need for a generic property.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Changes in v4:
>>>> - Remove references to generate polarity so this can get merged
>>>> - Predicate PWM driver on the presence of #pwm-cells
>>>> - Make some properties optional for clocksource drivers
>>>>
>>>> Changes in v3:
>>>> - Mark all boolean-as-int properties as deprecated
>>>> - Add xlnx,pwm and xlnx,gen?-active-low properties.
>>>> - Make newer replacement properties mutually-exclusive with what they
>>>>   replace
>>>> - Add an example with non-deprecated properties only.
>>>>
>>>> Changes in v2:
>>>> - Use 32-bit addresses for example binding
>>>>
>>>>  .../bindings/pwm/xlnx,axi-timer.yaml          | 85 +++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 85 insertions(+)
>>>>  create mode 100644
>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pwm/xlnx,axi-timer.yaml
>>>>
>>>> diff --git
>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pwm/xlnx,axi-timer.yaml
>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pwm/xlnx,axi-timer.yaml
>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>> index 000000000000..48a280f96e63
>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pwm/xlnx,axi-timer.yaml
>>>
>>> I don't think this is the right location for this.
>>>
>>> I have done some grepping and I think this should be done in a different
>>> way. I pretty much like solution around "ti,omap3430-timer" which is
>>> calling dmtimer_systimer_select_best() and later dmtimer_is_preferred()
>>> which in this case would allow us to get rid of cases which are not
>>> suitable for clocksource and clockevent.
>>>
>>> And there is drivers/pwm/pwm-omap-dmtimer.c which has link to timer
>>> which is providing functions for it's functionality.
>>>
>>> I have also looked at
>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/nxp,tpm-timer.yaml which is also
>>> the same device.
>>
>> Ok, I will move this under bindings/timer.
>>
>>>
>>> And sort of curious if you look at
>>>
>> https://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/ip_documentation/axi_timer/v2_0/pg079-axi-timer.pdf
>>
>>> ( Figure 1-1)
>>> that PWM is taking input from generate out 0 and generate out 1 which is
>>> maybe can be modeled is any output and pwm driver can register inputs
>>> for pwm driver.
>>
>> I don't think that is a good model, since several bits (GENERATE, PWM,
>> etc) need to be set in the TCSR, and we need to coordinate changes
>> between timers closely to keep our contract for apply_state(). Although
>> that is how the hardware is organized, the requirements of the
>> clocksource and pwm subsystems are very different.
>
> There is another upstream solution done by samsung. Where they use
> samsung,pwm-outputs property to identify PWMs.

As I understand it, the samsung PWM/timer has 5 timers, four of which
may be independently configured as PWMs. To contrast, this device has at
most two timers, both of which must be used for a single PWM output.
Because of this, it is sufficient to have a single property whose
presence indicates that the device is to be configured as a PWM.

> I think that make sense to consider to identify which timer should be
> clocksource/clockevent because with MB SMP this has to be done to pair
> timer with cpu for clockevents.

This is not done by the current driver. The first timer in the system
always binds itself to CPU 0.

--Sean

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Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-28 21:45 [PATCH v4 1/3] dt-bindings: pwm: Add Xilinx AXI Timer Sean Anderson
2021-05-28 21:45 ` Sean Anderson
2021-05-28 21:45 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] clocksource: Rewrite Xilinx AXI timer driver Sean Anderson
2021-05-28 21:45   ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-01  8:47   ` Lee Jones
2021-06-01  8:47     ` Lee Jones
2021-06-01 14:24     ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-01 14:24       ` Sean Anderson
2021-05-28 21:45 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] pwm: Add support for Xilinx AXI Timer Sean Anderson
2021-05-28 21:45   ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-10 16:15   ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-10 16:15     ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-25  6:19   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-25  6:19     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-25 15:13     ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-25 15:13       ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-25 16:56       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-25 16:56         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-25 17:46         ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-25 17:46           ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-25 17:46         ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-25 17:46           ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-27 18:19           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-27 18:19             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-28 15:50             ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-28 15:50               ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-28 16:24               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-28 16:24                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-28 16:35                 ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-28 16:35                   ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-28 17:20                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-28 17:20                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-28 17:41                     ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-28 17:41                       ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-29  8:31                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-29  8:31                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-29 18:01                         ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-29 18:01                           ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-29 20:51                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-29 20:51                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-29 22:21                             ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-29 22:21                               ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-29 22:26                               ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-29 22:26                                 ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-30  8:35                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-30  8:35                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-07-08 16:59                                 ` Sean Anderson
2021-07-08 16:59                                   ` Sean Anderson
2021-07-08 19:43                                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-07-08 19:43                                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-07-12 16:26                                     ` Sean Anderson
2021-07-12 16:26                                       ` Sean Anderson
2021-07-12 19:49                                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-07-12 19:49                                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-07-13 21:49                                         ` Sean Anderson
2021-07-13 21:49                                           ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-01 13:32 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] dt-bindings: pwm: Add " Rob Herring
2021-06-01 13:32   ` Rob Herring
2021-06-01 16:47   ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-01 16:47     ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-29  8:38 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-29  8:38   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-06-29 14:53   ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-29 14:53     ` Sean Anderson
2021-06-30 13:47 ` Michal Simek
2021-06-30 13:47   ` Michal Simek
2021-06-30 13:58   ` Michal Simek
2021-06-30 13:58     ` Michal Simek
2021-07-01 15:38     ` Sean Anderson
2021-07-01 15:38       ` Sean Anderson
2021-07-02 11:36       ` Michal Simek
2021-07-02 11:36         ` Michal Simek
2021-07-01 15:32   ` Sean Anderson
2021-07-01 15:32     ` Sean Anderson
2021-07-02 12:40     ` Michal Simek
2021-07-02 12:40       ` Michal Simek
2021-07-02 17:31       ` Sean Anderson [this message]
2021-07-02 17:31         ` Sean Anderson

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