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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	bochs developers <bochs-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	kvm developers <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Add BIOS splash image support
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:35:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49492A6D.6@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200812171517.52718.paul@codesourcery.com>

Paul Brook wrote:
>> BTW, why does qemu not carry all bochs bios source? For reference, but
>> also to fully comply with the LGPL (pointing to the original source is
>> not sufficient when delivering binaries - like e.g. bios.bin...).
> 
> If this is really an issue, then I strongly suggest we fix it by moving the 
> bios into its own project, and have everyone fetch it from there.

Qemu distributes binaries that have been generated from LGPLed sources
(this is at least the case for bochs, one would have to check the
situation for the other firmware images), so it has to provide the
corresponding source code according to the license terms. But if any
bochs copyright holder will ever sue a qemu maintainer on this is a
different question.

Nevertheless, we should keep in mind that anyone else who redistributes
qemu has to comply to this terms as well, thus currently has to patch
the "license bug" out of tree. At least from this perspective, it would
be nice to fix it - however this may happen in details (wasn't there
also some idea to switch to SeaBIOS due to build simplifications, or was
this only on the kvm list?).

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 26
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	bochs developers <bochs-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	kvm developers <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Add BIOS splash image support
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:35:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49492A6D.6@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200812171517.52718.paul@codesourcery.com>

Paul Brook wrote:
>> BTW, why does qemu not carry all bochs bios source? For reference, but
>> also to fully comply with the LGPL (pointing to the original source is
>> not sufficient when delivering binaries - like e.g. bios.bin...).
> 
> If this is really an issue, then I strongly suggest we fix it by moving the 
> bios into its own project, and have everyone fetch it from there.

Qemu distributes binaries that have been generated from LGPLed sources
(this is at least the case for bochs, one would have to check the
situation for the other firmware images), so it has to provide the
corresponding source code according to the license terms. But if any
bochs copyright holder will ever sue a qemu maintainer on this is a
different question.

Nevertheless, we should keep in mind that anyone else who redistributes
qemu has to comply to this terms as well, thus currently has to patch
the "license bug" out of tree. At least from this perspective, it would
be nice to fix it - however this may happen in details (wasn't there
also some idea to switch to SeaBIOS due to build simplifications, or was
this only on the kvm list?).

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 26
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-17 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-16 15:20 [PATCH 0/3] Add BIOS splash image support Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 15:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 15:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] Correct fw_cfg_add_callback() Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 15:20   ` [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 15:20   ` [PATCH 2/3] [BIOS] Add splash image support Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 15:20     ` [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 15:20     ` [PATCH 3/3] [QEMU] Add BIOS splash image Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 15:20       ` [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 15:33       ` Andreas Färber
2008-12-16 17:22         ` Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 16:16       ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 16:16         ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 17:32         ` Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 17:41           ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 17:58             ` Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 20:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Add BIOS splash image support Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 20:06   ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 20:28   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-16 20:28     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-16 20:46     ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 20:46       ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 21:51       ` Laurent Vivier
2008-12-16 21:51         ` Laurent Vivier
2008-12-17  0:10         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2008-12-17  0:10           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2008-12-17 13:09           ` Laurent Vivier
2008-12-17 16:21             ` [Bochs-developers] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2008-12-17 16:21               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2008-12-17 22:58           ` [Bochs-developers] [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Add BIOS splashimage support Sebastian Herbszt
2008-12-17 22:58             ` Sebastian Herbszt
2008-12-17 11:03     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Add BIOS splash image support Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-17 11:03       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-17 13:18       ` Paul Brook
2008-12-17 13:18         ` Paul Brook
2008-12-17 13:45         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 13:45           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 13:55           ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-17 13:55             ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-17 14:53             ` Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 14:53               ` Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 15:06               ` Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 15:06                 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 15:17               ` Paul Brook
2008-12-17 15:17                 ` Paul Brook
2008-12-17 16:35                 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2008-12-17 16:35                   ` Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 17:14                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-17 17:14                     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-17 18:30                     ` Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 18:30                       ` Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 18:43                       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-17 18:43                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-17 18:09                   ` Andreas Färber
2008-12-17 17:15                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-17 17:15                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-17 22:28                   ` Sebastian Herbszt
2008-12-17 22:28                     ` Sebastian Herbszt
2008-12-18  8:59                     ` Volker Ruppert
2008-12-18  8:59                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Volker Ruppert
2008-12-18 21:46                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-12-18 21:46                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-12-17 17:12             ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2008-12-17 14:49           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-17 14:49             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-17 14:54             ` Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 14:54               ` Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 15:04               ` Kevin Wolf
2008-12-17 15:26                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-17 16:44                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-12-17 17:06                     ` Gildas
2008-12-17 17:22                       ` M. Warner Losh
2008-12-17 17:17                     ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-17 18:01                       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-17 22:03                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Sebastian Herbszt
2008-12-17 22:09                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-17 14:01         ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-17 14:01           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-17 13:51   ` Kevin O'Connor
2008-12-17 13:51     ` Kevin O'Connor
2008-12-17 21:58 ` [Bochs-developers] " Sebastian Herbszt
2008-12-17 21:58   ` [Qemu-devel] " Sebastian Herbszt
2008-12-17 23:24   ` Laurent Vivier
2008-12-17 23:24     ` [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Vivier

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