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From: Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, avi@redhat.com, chrisw@redhat.com,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, hugh@veritas.com,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is	pointing to.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:48:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49E66450.3070404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090415112511.GH9809@random.random>

Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:09:25PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>   
>> On Thu,  9 Apr 2009 06:58:40 +0300
>> Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> replace_page() allow changing the mapping of pte from one physical page
>>> into diffrent physical page.
>>>       
>> At a high level, this is very similar to what page migration does.  Yet
>> this implementation shares nothing with the page migration code.
>>
>> Can this situation be improved?
>>     
>
> This was discussed last time too. Basically the thing is that using
> migration entry with its special page fault paths, for this looks a
> bit of an overkill complexity and unnecessary dependency on the
> migration code. 

I agree about that.

> All we need is to mark the pte readonly. replace_page
> is a no brainer then. The brainer part is page_wrprotect
> (page_wrprotect is like fork).
>
> The data visibility in the final memcmp you mentioned in the other
> mail is supposedly taken care of by page_wrprotect too. It already
> does flush_cache_page for the virtual indexed and not physically
> tagged caches. page_wrprotect has to also IPI all CPUs to nuke any not
> wrprotected tlb entry. I don't think we need further smp memory
> barriers when we're guaranteed all tlb entries are wrprotected in the
> other cpus and an IPI and invlpg run in them, to be sure we read the
> data stable during memcmp even if we read through the kernel
> pagetables and the last userland write happened through userland ptes
> before they become effective wrprotected by the IPI.
>   

Yup agree.


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From: Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, avi@redhat.com, chrisw@redhat.com,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, hugh@veritas.com,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is	pointing to.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:48:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49E66450.3070404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090415112511.GH9809@random.random>

Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:09:25PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>   
>> On Thu,  9 Apr 2009 06:58:40 +0300
>> Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> replace_page() allow changing the mapping of pte from one physical page
>>> into diffrent physical page.
>>>       
>> At a high level, this is very similar to what page migration does.  Yet
>> this implementation shares nothing with the page migration code.
>>
>> Can this situation be improved?
>>     
>
> This was discussed last time too. Basically the thing is that using
> migration entry with its special page fault paths, for this looks a
> bit of an overkill complexity and unnecessary dependency on the
> migration code. 

I agree about that.

> All we need is to mark the pte readonly. replace_page
> is a no brainer then. The brainer part is page_wrprotect
> (page_wrprotect is like fork).
>
> The data visibility in the final memcmp you mentioned in the other
> mail is supposedly taken care of by page_wrprotect too. It already
> does flush_cache_page for the virtual indexed and not physically
> tagged caches. page_wrprotect has to also IPI all CPUs to nuke any not
> wrprotected tlb entry. I don't think we need further smp memory
> barriers when we're guaranteed all tlb entries are wrprotected in the
> other cpus and an IPI and invlpg run in them, to be sure we read the
> data stable during memcmp even if we read through the kernel
> pagetables and the last userland write happened through userland ptes
> before they become effective wrprotected by the IPI.
>   

Yup agree.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-15 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-09  3:58 [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux v3 Izik Eidus
2009-04-09  3:58 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-09  3:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] MMU_NOTIFIERS: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2009-04-09  3:58   ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-09  3:58   ` [PATCH 2/4] add page_wrprotect(): write protecting page Izik Eidus
2009-04-09  3:58     ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-09  3:58     ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Izik Eidus
2009-04-09  3:58       ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-09  3:58       ` [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Izik Eidus
2009-04-09  3:58         ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-14 22:09         ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-14 22:09           ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-14 22:09           ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 22:37           ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-15 22:37             ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-15 22:50             ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 22:50               ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 23:21               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-15 23:21                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-16  0:43           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16  0:43             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16  0:57             ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-16  0:57               ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-16 11:39             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-16 11:39               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-16 16:08               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16 16:08                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-18 14:58           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-18 14:58             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-14 22:09       ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Andrew Morton
2009-04-14 22:09         ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-14 22:09         ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 11:25         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-15 11:25           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-15 22:48           ` Izik Eidus [this message]
2009-04-15 22:48             ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-14 22:09 ` [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux v3 Andrew Morton
2009-04-14 22:09   ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-14 22:09   ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-16 17:55   ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-16 17:55     ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-16 18:25     ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-16 18:25       ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-17  7:08     ` Jared Hulbert
2009-04-17  7:08       ` Jared Hulbert
2009-04-21  2:59       ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-21  2:59         ` Nick Piggin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-04 14:35 [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux v2 Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35 ` [PATCH 1/4] MMU_NOTIFIERS: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35   ` [PATCH 2/4] add page_wrprotect(): write protecting page Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35     ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35       ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] MMU_NOTIFIERS: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59   ` [PATCH 2/4] add page_wrprotect(): write protecting page Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59     ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59       ` Izik Eidus

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