Rv: Re: ATI TV Wonder PCI

Rv: Re: ATI TV Wonder PCI

[Harol Hunter]

--- El jue 16-abr-09, Harol Hunter <hawk_eyes80@yahoo.com.mx> escribió:

> De:: Harol Hunter <hawk_eyes80@yahoo.com.mx>
> Asunto: Re: ATI TV Wonder PCI
> A: "stuart" <stuart@xnet.com>
> Fecha: jueves, 16 abril, 2009, 11:21 am
> ----- Mensaje original ----
> De: stuart <stuart@xnet.com>
> Para: Harol Hunter <hawk_eyes80@yahoo.com.mx>
> CC: video4linux-list@redhat.com
> Enviado: miércoles, 15 de abril, 2009 14:15:45
> Asunto: Re: ATI TV Wonder PCI
> 
> 
> 
> Harol Hunter wrote:
> > Hi there people:
> > 
> > I have an ATI TV Wonder 550 PCI card and I can't
> make linux recognize it properly. I've been googling a
> lot with no result. Here I let you my lscpi results:
> > 
> > 01:0b.0 Multimedia controller [0480]: ATI Technologies
> Inc Theater 550 PRO PCI [ATI TV Wonder 550] [1002:4d52]
> >     Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device
> [1002:a346]
> >     Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ
> 5
> >     Memory at bff00000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
> [size=1M]
> >     Memory at de000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
> [size=32M]
> >     Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
> > 
> > I read that I have to load the right modules for it
> and this is what I've done 'till now
> > 
> > $ sudo modprobe bttv card=63 tuner=44 radio=1
> > 
> > and with no parameters also. Bttv loads properly but
> still won't recognize the cards. Am I doing anything
> wrong or it's just my card. I must say I can watch TV on
> Windows with this very same card
> > 
> > Thanks in advance
> > Harol
> 
> Got to ask, if you are in the state, why are you fooling
> w/an NTSC tuner (unless you are connected to a subscription
> service - then pardon my dribble!).
> 
> Any ways - I just installed some ATI tuners as well - but,
> I checked (lspci) and they are not the same type.  You will
> find that ATI / AMD named almost all their tuners "ATI
> Wonder" making it very difficult to distinguish which
> is which (let alone which are well, partially and not
> supported here in linux land).
> 
> That said, have you googled to find like minded people
> w/the same problem?  So far, what I have found leads me to
> think you are at a dead end w/this particular ATI:
> 
> http://lists.linuxcoding.com/rhl/2008q1/msg04270.html
> 
> Further evidence that your card might not work can be found
> here (search for "ATI "):
> 
> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html
> 
> I say "might not work" as, again, ATI / AMD's
> crappy naming is confusing.  I think you have an "ATI
> Wonder" card and I have an "ATI
> All-in-Wonder" card.  But from our lspci's I can
> not be sure.  I'm basing the true name of your card from
> the ATI / AMD's web site:
> 
> http://ati.amd.com/products/tvwonder550/index.html
> 
> Ah, here's the coffin nail (search for your 550 card):
> 
> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI/AMD#ATI_Graphic_cards_with_TV_Tuners_and.2For_Capture_facilities
> 
> Regardless, if you are serious about using a tuner in linux
> (i.e. going to build a mythtv box) I would approach the
> problem the other way around.  First check for support then
> go out and buy a tuner.
> 
> In case you want to get what I have, this is one of the
> results from my lspci (I think I get 3 per ATI card). 
> I'm still putting together this mythtv box.  But the
> ATSC feature of this card appears to be working (in a Debian
> system):
> 
> 01:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc.
> CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Vi
> deo and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
>         Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc HDTV Wonder
>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ
> 17
>         Memory at fa000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
> [size=16M]
>         Capabilities: <access denied>
>         Kernel driver in use: cx8800
>         Kernel modules: cx8800
> 
> 
> Let's begging by saying that I live in Cuba, so Digital
> TV is quite far, about my card as I say it's an ATI TV
> Wonder 550 PCI, reading CARDLIST.bttv in kernel Doc I found
> out it's supported by bttv driver so I thought it might
> be easy to configure, but the real problem is that even when
> then kernel sees the card it wont recognize it, anyone who
> has had this problem?
> 
> Harol
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Rv: Re: ATI TV Wonder PCI

[CityK]

Harol Hunter wrote:
>>> I have an ATI TV Wonder 550 PCI card and I can't make linux recognize it properly. I've been googling a
>>> lot with no result. Here I let you my lscpi results:
>>>
>>> 01:0b.0 Multimedia controller [0480]: ATI Technologies Inc Theater 550 PRO PCI [ATI TV Wonder 550] [1002:4d52]
>>>     Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device [1002:a346]
>>>
>>> ....
>>>
>>> I read that I have to load the right modules for it and this is what I've done 'till now 
>>> $ sudo modprobe bttv card=63 tuner=44 radio=1
>>> and with no parameters also. Bttv loads properly but still won't recognize the cards. Am I doing anything
>>> wrong or it's just my card. I must say I can watch TV on
>>> Windows with this very same card
>> You will find that ATI / AMD named almost all their tuners "ATI
>> Wonder" making it very difficult to distinguish which
>> is which 
>> ....
>> evidence that your card might not work can be found
>> here ... Ah, here's the coffin nail (search for your 550 card):
>> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI/AMD 
>
> about my card as I say it's an ATI TV
> Wonder 550 PCI, reading CARDLIST.bttv in kernel Doc I found
> out it's supported by bttv driver so I thought it might
> be easy to configure, but the real problem is that even when
> then kernel sees the card it wont recognize it, anyone who
> has had this problem?
>   


Harol,

you have misunderstood -- your card is NOT supported.  Your device does
not use one of the PCI bridges supported by the bttv driver .  Your card
uses the Theater 550 Pro as its PCI bridge (as well as for some other
functions; A/V decoding, MPEG2 encoding) , and there is no driver for
that IC; and, consequently, no support for your card.

As an FYI, look again at the bttv card list and you will see that the
subsystem ID for entry 63 is different from your own card (which you
will see listed above in the output of lspci you generated;
specifically:[1002:a346]).  Also take note of the pertinent information
that Stuart previously provided and which I have included above in the
quotation.

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Re: ATI TV Wonder PCI

[Harol Hunter]

Harol Hunter wrote:

>>> I have an ATI TV Wonder 550 PCI card and I can't make linux recognize it properly. I've been googling a
>>> lot with no result. Here I let you my lscpi results:
>>>
>>> 01:0b.0 Multimedia controller [0480]: ATI Technologies Inc Theater 550 PRO PCI [ATI TV Wonder 550] [1002:4d52]
>>>     Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device [1002:a346]
>>>
>>> ....
>>>
>>> I read that I have to load the right modules for it and this is what I've done 'till now 
>>> $ sudo modprobe bttv card=63 tuner=44 radio=1
>>> and with no parameters also. Bttv loads properly but still won't recognize the cards. Am I doing anything
>>> wrong or it's just my card. I must say I can watch TV on
>>> Windows with this very same card
>> You will find that ATI / AMD named almost all their tuners "ATI
>> Wonder" making it very difficult to distinguish which
>> is which 
>> ....
>> evidence that your card might not work can be found
>> here ... Ah, here's the coffin nail (search for your 550 card):
>> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI/AMD 
>
> about my card as I say it's an ATI TV
> Wonder 550 PCI, reading CARDLIST.bttv in kernel Doc I found
> out it's supported by bttv driver so I thought it might
> be easy to configure, but the real problem is that even when
> then kernel sees the card it wont recognize it, anyone who
> has had this problem?
>  


Harol,

you have misunderstood -- your card is NOT supported.  Your device does
not use one of the PCI bridges supported by the bttv driver .  Your card
uses the Theater 550 Pro as its PCI bridge (as well as for some other
functions; A/V decoding, MPEG2 encoding) , and there is no driver for
that IC; and, consequently, no support for your card.

As an FYI, look again at the bttv card list and you will see that the
subsystem ID for entry 63 is different from your own card (which you
will see listed above in the output of lspci you generated;
specifically:[1002:a346]).  Also take note of the pertinent information
that Stuart previously provided and which I have included above in the
quotation.


That explains a lot, so my card it's not supported by bttv driver, I'm quite disappointed. I guess I'll have to install a Virtual Machine with XP just to watch TV on my Linux,  thanks for your help anyway people.

Saludos
Harol



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Re: ATI TV Wonder PCI

[Devin Heitmueller]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Harol Hunter <hawk_eyes80@yahoo.com.mx> wrote:
> That explains a lot, so my card it's not supported by bttv driver, I'm quite disappointed. I guess I'll have to install a Virtual Machine with XP just to watch TV on my Linux,  thanks for your help anyway people.
>
> Saludos
> Harol

ATI has been less than cooperative in this area.  And now that the
division that makes the Theatre chipsets has been sold to Broadcom,
it's safe to support is not going to be coming for their cards anytime
soon (based on the discussions I've had with them).

Dedicated capture cards have gotten dirt cheap, so if you want to
watch TV under Linux your best bet is to get a supported device.

Devin

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