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From: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
To: avorontsov@ru.mvista.com
Cc: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	Linuxppc-dev Development <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: removing get_immrbase()??
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:02:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49F07509.8030603@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090423135005.GA18462@oksana.dev.rtsoft.ru>

Anton Vorontsov wrote:

> And note that most developers are using up-to-date firmwares
> (U-Boots), device trees, and kernels. 

Developers? Yes.
End-users? No.

Updating U-Boot itself is often unacceptable for end-users.  There's
also a strong connection between U-Boot and the device tree.  That
connection gets stronger with every release, as U-Boot makes more and
more changes to the device tree before passing it to the kernel.  This
means that if you cannot update U-Boot, you might not be able to update
your device tree either.

We've run into plenty of situations where customers will update the
kernel, but insist that U-Boot and the device tree remain unchanged.

> And that means that old
> device-tree + new kernel combination is left untested for years.
> And untested stuff is broken stuff, by definition.

I'm not saying that should officially support it.  I'm saying we should
make an effort to minimize the problem.  Adding a few isolated lines of
code to maintain that compatibility, and running a few tests, is not a
bad idea and can save headaches for some people in the future.

-- 
Timur Tabi
Linux kernel developer at Freescale

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-23 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-22 18:38 removing get_immrbase()?? Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 19:35 ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-22 20:16   ` Scott Wood
2009-04-22 20:16     ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-22 20:20       ` Scott Wood
2009-04-22 21:31       ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 21:33         ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-22 21:39           ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 21:46             ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-22 21:54               ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 21:57                 ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-22 22:07                   ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 22:00               ` Scott Wood
2009-04-22 22:00                 ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23 13:54             ` Grant Likely
2009-04-22 21:38         ` Scott Wood
2009-04-22 21:55           ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 22:33             ` Scott Wood
2009-04-23  0:03               ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23  2:26             ` David Gibson
2009-04-23  3:36               ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-23  4:06                 ` David Gibson
2009-04-23  4:41                   ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-28  4:12                     ` David Gibson
2009-04-28 13:48                       ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23 13:07                 ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23 15:56                 ` Scott Wood
2009-04-23 13:02               ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-23 13:50                 ` Anton Vorontsov
2009-04-23 14:02                   ` Timur Tabi [this message]
2009-04-23 14:06                     ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-23 14:09                       ` Timur Tabi
2009-04-24 14:40                       ` Wrobel Heinz-R39252
2009-04-23 14:13                     ` Anton Vorontsov
2009-04-23 16:00                   ` Scott Wood
2009-04-23 16:54                     ` Anton Vorontsov
2009-04-23 17:03                       ` Scott Wood
2009-04-23 17:26                         ` Anton Vorontsov
2009-04-23 17:59                           ` Scott Wood
2009-04-28  4:25                   ` David Gibson
2009-04-28  4:21                 ` David Gibson
2009-04-23 13:53         ` Grant Likely
2009-04-23 14:03           ` Anton Vorontsov
2009-04-28  4:26           ` David Gibson
2009-04-22 19:44 ` Scott Wood
2009-04-22 20:00   ` Kumar Gala
2009-04-22 20:30   ` Scott Wood
2009-04-23 13:53 ` Arnd Bergmann

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