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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vgoyal@redhat.com,
	hbabu@us.ibm.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	ying.huang@intel.com, mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de,
	ebiederm@xmission.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/14] x86, config: change defaults PHYSICAL_START and PHYSICAL_ALIGN
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:01:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A046550.6050007@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090508073606.GC12808@uranus.ravnborg.org>

Sam Ravnborg wrote:
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> index 039c3f0..13b3a5a 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> @@ -1455,17 +1455,20 @@ config KEXEC_JUMP
>>  
>>  config PHYSICAL_START
>>  	hex "Physical address where the kernel is loaded" if (EMBEDDED || CRASH_DUMP)
>> -	default "0x1000000" if X86_NUMAQ
>> -	default "0x200000" if X86_64
>> -	default "0x100000"
>> +	default "0x400000" if EMBEDDED
>> +	default "0x1000000"
>>  	---help---
>>  	  This gives the physical address where the kernel is loaded.
>>  
>>  	  If kernel is a not relocatable (CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n) then
>>  	  bzImage will decompress itself to above physical address and
>> -	  run from there. Otherwise, bzImage will run from the address where
>> -	  it has been loaded by the boot loader and will ignore above physical
>> -	  address.
>> +	  run from there. Otherwise, bzImage will run from the either
>> +	  the above physical address or where it has been loaded by
>> +	  the boot loader, whichever is higher.
>> +
>> +	  For embedded machines with very small memory (less than
>> +	  about 24 MB) this may need to be adjusted downward from the
>> +	  default value of 0x1000000 (16 MB).
> 
> But in the above you say that default is "0x400000" if EMBEDDED
> That is in contradiction with the help - no?
> 

0x1000000 really should be the default value.  The "0x400000" if
EMBEDDED I put in to make the risk of throwing something surprising on
embedded people somewhat smaller; I'm not sure if it should go away
entirely.  Even if it doesn't, I do think referring to 16 MB as the
"default value" is right.

BTW, it would be nice to have Kconfig deal with:

a) numbers that must be powers of 2;
b) suffixes like "16M" instead of "0x1000000".  ;)

	-hpa

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.


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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hbabu@us.ibm.com, ebiederm@xmission.com, ying.huang@intel.com,
	mingo@elte.hu, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/14] x86, config: change defaults PHYSICAL_START and PHYSICAL_ALIGN
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:01:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A046550.6050007@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090508073606.GC12808@uranus.ravnborg.org>

Sam Ravnborg wrote:
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> index 039c3f0..13b3a5a 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> @@ -1455,17 +1455,20 @@ config KEXEC_JUMP
>>  
>>  config PHYSICAL_START
>>  	hex "Physical address where the kernel is loaded" if (EMBEDDED || CRASH_DUMP)
>> -	default "0x1000000" if X86_NUMAQ
>> -	default "0x200000" if X86_64
>> -	default "0x100000"
>> +	default "0x400000" if EMBEDDED
>> +	default "0x1000000"
>>  	---help---
>>  	  This gives the physical address where the kernel is loaded.
>>  
>>  	  If kernel is a not relocatable (CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n) then
>>  	  bzImage will decompress itself to above physical address and
>> -	  run from there. Otherwise, bzImage will run from the address where
>> -	  it has been loaded by the boot loader and will ignore above physical
>> -	  address.
>> +	  run from there. Otherwise, bzImage will run from the either
>> +	  the above physical address or where it has been loaded by
>> +	  the boot loader, whichever is higher.
>> +
>> +	  For embedded machines with very small memory (less than
>> +	  about 24 MB) this may need to be adjusted downward from the
>> +	  default value of 0x1000000 (16 MB).
> 
> But in the above you say that default is "0x400000" if EMBEDDED
> That is in contradiction with the help - no?
> 

0x1000000 really should be the default value.  The "0x400000" if
EMBEDDED I put in to make the risk of throwing something surprising on
embedded people somewhat smaller; I'm not sure if it should go away
entirely.  Even if it doesn't, I do think referring to 16 MB as the
"default value" is right.

BTW, it would be nice to have Kconfig deal with:

a) numbers that must be powers of 2;
b) suffixes like "16M" instead of "0x1000000".  ;)

	-hpa

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-08 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-07 22:26 [PATCH 00/14] RFC: x86: relocatable kernel changes H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 01/14] x86, boot: align the .bss section in the decompressor H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08  7:17   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08  7:17     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08  8:18     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-08  8:18       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-08 16:54     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 16:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08  7:53   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2009-05-08  7:53     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2009-05-08 17:03     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 17:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 17:15       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2009-05-08 17:15         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2009-05-08 17:21         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 17:21           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 02/14] x86, boot: honor CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START when relocatable H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08  7:34   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08  7:34     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08 16:58     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 16:58       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 03/14] x86, config: change defaults PHYSICAL_START and PHYSICAL_ALIGN H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08  7:36   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08  7:36     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08  9:47     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-08  9:47       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-08 17:01     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-05-08 17:01       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 04/14] x86, boot: unify use LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR and LOAD_PHYSICAL_ALIGN H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 05/14] kbuild: allow compressors (gzip, bzip2, lzma) to take multiple inputs H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08  7:42   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08  7:42     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08 20:18     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 20:18       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 20:47       ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08 20:47         ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08 20:49         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 20:49           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 21:33           ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08 21:33             ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 06/14] x86: add a Kconfig symbol for when relocations are needed H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 07/14] x86, boot: simplify arch/x86/boot/compressed/Makefile H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08  7:45   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08  7:45     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 08/14] x86, boot: use BP_scratch in arch/x86/boot/compressed/head_*.S H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 09/14] x86, boot: add new runtime_address and runtime_size bzImage fields H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08  7:55   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08  7:55     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08 21:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 21:09       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 21:35       ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-08 21:35         ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 10/14] x86, doc: document the runtime_start " H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26 ` [PATCH 11/14] x86, boot: use rep movsq to move kernel on 64 bits H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:27 ` [PATCH 12/14] x86, boot: zero EFLAGS on 32 bits H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:27   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:27 ` [PATCH 13/14] x86: make CONFIG_RELOCATABLE the default H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:27   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:27 ` [PATCH 14/14] x86, defconfig: update defconfigs to relocatable H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-07 22:27   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08  1:23 ` [PATCH 00/14] RFC: x86: relocatable kernel changes Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-08  1:23   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-08  5:31   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08  5:31     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08  6:54     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-08  6:54       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-08 18:04       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 18:04         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 18:47       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-08 18:47         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-11  5:18         ` RFC: x86: relocatable kernel changes (revised spec) H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-11  5:18           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-11 11:54           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-11 11:54             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-11 16:03             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-11 16:03               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-11 17:56             ` RFC: x86: relocatable kernel changes (revised spec v2) H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-11 17:56               ` H. Peter Anvin

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