* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:23 ` viresh kumar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-09 6:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel Hello, Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may be some other too which we haven't observed. Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any workarounds possible? viresh ST Microelectronics. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:23 ` viresh kumar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2018-06-19 20:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel Hello, Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may be some other too which we haven't observed. Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any workarounds possible? viresh ST Microelectronics. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:23 ` viresh kumar @ 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Justin P. Mattock -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 6:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On 08/08/2010 11:07 PM, viresh kumar wrote: > Hello, > > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may > be some other too which we haven't observed. > > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any > workarounds possible? > > viresh > ST Microelectronics. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > still trying to figure this out with thunderbird.. but did notice in Documentation/email-clients.txt and SubmittingPatches there's info about that(just haven't gotten around to reading use git send-email for patches) hope this helps. Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Justin P. Mattock 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2018-06-19 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 08/08/2010 11:07 PM, viresh kumar wrote: > Hello, > > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may > be some other too which we haven't observed. > > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any > workarounds possible? > > viresh > ST Microelectronics. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > still trying to figure this out with thunderbird.. but did notice in Documentation/email-clients.txt and SubmittingPatches there's info about that(just haven't gotten around to reading use git send-email for patches) hope this helps. Justin P. Mattock -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Justin P. Mattock @ 2018-06-19 20:24 ` viresh kumar -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-09 6:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Justin P. Mattock; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On 8/9/2010 12:12 PM, Justin P. Mattock wrote: > On 08/08/2010 11:07 PM, viresh kumar wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >> > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >> > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >> > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >> > be some other too which we haven't observed. >> > >> > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >> > workarounds possible? >> > > > still trying to figure this out with thunderbird.. but did notice in > Documentation/email-clients.txt and SubmittingPatches > there's info about that(just haven't gotten around to reading use git > send-email for patches) > > hope this helps. I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, so they are broken. viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:24 ` viresh kumar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2018-06-19 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 8/9/2010 12:12 PM, Justin P. Mattock wrote: > On 08/08/2010 11:07 PM, viresh kumar wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >> > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >> > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >> > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >> > be some other too which we haven't observed. >> > >> > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >> > workarounds possible? >> > > > still trying to figure this out with thunderbird.. but did notice in > Documentation/email-clients.txt and SubmittingPatches > there's info about that(just haven't gotten around to reading use git > send-email for patches) > > hope this helps. I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, so they are broken. viresh. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:24 ` viresh kumar @ 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Justin P. Mattock -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 7:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On 08/08/2010 11:55 PM, viresh kumar wrote: > On 8/9/2010 12:12 PM, Justin P. Mattock wrote: >> On 08/08/2010 11:07 PM, viresh kumar wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >>>> exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >>>> What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >>>> sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >>>> be some other too which we haven't observed. >>>> >>>> Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >>>> workarounds possible? >>>> >> >> still trying to figure this out with thunderbird.. but did notice in >> Documentation/email-clients.txt and SubmittingPatches >> there's info about that(just haven't gotten around to reading use git >> send-email for patches) >> >> hope this helps. > > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, > so they are broken. > > viresh. > hmm.. then I don't know the answer to that.. always send through git send-email(patches)and things are good(knock-on-wood)always ran into issues with copy/pasting onto thunderbird. Hopefully somebody else with more knowledge of using git send-email patches through microsoft exchange answers this.. side note: maybe postfix or some type of wrapper around the wording message(utf-8) to keep microsoft from mangling things or something.(tough to say though) Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Justin P. Mattock 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2018-06-19 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 08/08/2010 11:55 PM, viresh kumar wrote: > On 8/9/2010 12:12 PM, Justin P. Mattock wrote: >> On 08/08/2010 11:07 PM, viresh kumar wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >>>> exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >>>> What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >>>> sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >>>> be some other too which we haven't observed. >>>> >>>> Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >>>> workarounds possible? >>>> >> >> still trying to figure this out with thunderbird.. but did notice in >> Documentation/email-clients.txt and SubmittingPatches >> there's info about that(just haven't gotten around to reading use git >> send-email for patches) >> >> hope this helps. > > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, > so they are broken. > > viresh. > hmm.. then I don't know the answer to that.. always send through git send-email(patches)and things are good(knock-on-wood)always ran into issues with copy/pasting onto thunderbird. Hopefully somebody else with more knowledge of using git send-email patches through microsoft exchange answers this.. side note: maybe postfix or some type of wrapper around the wording message(utf-8) to keep microsoft from mangling things or something.(tough to say though) Justin P. Mattock -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:23 ` viresh kumar @ 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Uwe Kleine-König -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Uwe Kleine-König @ 2010-08-09 6:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel Hello, On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:37:33AM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > Hello, > > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may > be some other too which we haven't observed. unlucky you. > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any > workarounds possible? git.git has some tips for thunderbird, see http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/SubmittingPatches;hb=HEAD and look for the section titled "Thunderbird" (small surprise). Best regards Uwe -- Pengutronix e.K. | Uwe Kleine-König | Industrial Linux Solutions | http://www.pengutronix.de/ | ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Uwe Kleine-König 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Uwe Kleine-König @ 2018-06-19 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel Hello, On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:37:33AM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > Hello, > > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may > be some other too which we haven't observed. unlucky you. > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any > workarounds possible? git.git has some tips for thunderbird, see http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/SubmittingPatches;hb=HEAD and look for the section titled "Thunderbird" (small surprise). Best regards Uwe -- Pengutronix e.K. | Uwe Kleine-K?nig | Industrial Linux Solutions | http://www.pengutronix.de/ | -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Uwe Kleine-König @ 2018-06-19 20:24 ` viresh kumar -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-09 6:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Uwe Kleine-König; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On 8/9/2010 12:19 PM, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:37:33AM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >> > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >> > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >> > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >> > be some other too which we haven't observed. > unlucky you. > >> > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >> > workarounds possible? > git.git has some tips for thunderbird, see > > http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/SubmittingPatches;hb=HEAD > > and look for the section titled "Thunderbird" (small surprise). I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, so they are broken. With previous server everything was working fine. viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:24 ` viresh kumar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2018-06-19 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 8/9/2010 12:19 PM, Uwe Kleine-K?nig wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:37:33AM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >> > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >> > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >> > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >> > be some other too which we haven't observed. > unlucky you. > >> > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >> > workarounds possible? > git.git has some tips for thunderbird, see > > http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/SubmittingPatches;hb=HEAD > > and look for the section titled "Thunderbird" (small surprise). I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, so they are broken. With previous server everything was working fine. viresh. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:24 ` viresh kumar (?) @ 2010-08-09 7:19 ` Valeo de Vries 2010-08-09 7:47 ` viresh kumar -1 siblings, 1 reply; 74+ messages in thread From: Valeo de Vries @ 2010-08-09 7:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar; +Cc: linux-kernel 2010/8/9 viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com>: > On 8/9/2010 12:19 PM, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:37:33AM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >>> > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >>> > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >>> > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >>> > be some other too which we haven't observed. >> unlucky you. >> >>> > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >>> > workarounds possible? >> git.git has some tips for thunderbird, see >> >> http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/SubmittingPatches;hb=HEAD >> >> and look for the section titled "Thunderbird" (small surprise). > > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, > so they are broken. > > With previous server everything was working fine. You might want to take a look at http://bombadil.infradead.org/~mcgrof/MS-exchange-sucks-for-patches/ for a possible explanation. Long story short: upgrade Exchange, or use a different SMTP server that doesn't try to be smarter than its users (or should that be an SMTP server that isn't just plain arse-backwards?). Valeo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 7:19 ` Valeo de Vries @ 2010-08-09 7:47 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-09 9:00 ` Valeo de Vries 0 siblings, 1 reply; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-09 7:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Valeo de Vries; +Cc: linux-kernel On 8/9/2010 12:49 PM, Valeo de Vries wrote: > 2010/8/9 viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com>: >> > On 8/9/2010 12:19 PM, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: >>> >> Hello, >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:37:33AM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >>>>> >>> > Hello, >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >>>>> >>> > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >>>>> >>> > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >>>>> >>> > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >>>>> >>> > be some other too which we haven't observed. >>> >> unlucky you. >>> >> >>>>> >>> > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >>>>> >>> > workarounds possible? >>> >> git.git has some tips for thunderbird, see >>> >> >>> >> http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/SubmittingPatches;hb=HEAD >>> >> >>> >> and look for the section titled "Thunderbird" (small surprise). >> > >> > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for >> > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, >> > so they are broken. >> > >> > With previous server everything was working fine. > You might want to take a look at > http://bombadil.infradead.org/~mcgrof/MS-exchange-sucks-for-patches/ > for a possible explanation. Long story short: upgrade Exchange, or use > a different SMTP server that doesn't try to be smarter than its users > (or should that be an SMTP server that isn't just plain > arse-backwards?). Valeo, Thanks for this. It really helped us. viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 7:47 ` viresh kumar @ 2010-08-09 9:00 ` Valeo de Vries 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Valeo de Vries @ 2010-08-09 9:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar; +Cc: linux-kernel On 9 August 2010 08:47, viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: > Valeo, > > Thanks for this. It really helped us. No worries! Valeo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:24 ` viresh kumar @ 2018-06-19 20:26 ` Matti Aarnio -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Matti Aarnio @ 2010-08-09 9:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, > so they are broken. > Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails... > With previous server everything was working fine. > viresh. Best Regards, Matti Aarnio, one of <postmaster at vger.kernel.org> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:26 ` Matti Aarnio 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Matti Aarnio @ 2018-06-19 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, > so they are broken. > Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails... > With previous server everything was working fine. > viresh. Best Regards, Matti Aarnio, one of <postmaster@vger.kernel.org> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:26 ` Matti Aarnio @ 2018-06-19 20:26 ` viresh kumar -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-09 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matti Aarnio; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >> > >> > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for >> > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, >> > so they are broken. >> > > Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. > "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" > > > It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails... > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:26 ` viresh kumar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2018-06-19 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >> > >> > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for >> > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, >> > so they are broken. >> > > Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. > "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" > > > It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails... > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. viresh. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:26 ` viresh kumar @ 2018-06-19 20:26 ` Justin P. Mattock -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar; +Cc: Matti Aarnio, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On 08/09/2010 02:35 AM, viresh kumar wrote: > On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >>>> >>>> I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for >>>> sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, >>>> so they are broken. >>>> >> Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. >> "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" >> >> >> It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails... >> > > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. > Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. > > viresh. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > that or just blast them with some cryptology..i.e. pretty sure if your message was encapsulated(AH/ESP) they couldn't tweak it.. but then sending such encryption to a public list would require a _key_ on the other side.. wishful thinking... (just a thought)... :-) Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:26 ` Justin P. Mattock 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2018-06-19 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 08/09/2010 02:35 AM, viresh kumar wrote: > On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >>>> >>>> I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for >>>> sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, >>>> so they are broken. >>>> >> Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. >> "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" >> >> >> It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails... >> > > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. > Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. > > viresh. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > that or just blast them with some cryptology..i.e. pretty sure if your message was encapsulated(AH/ESP) they couldn't tweak it.. but then sending such encryption to a public list would require a _key_ on the other side.. wishful thinking... (just a thought)... :-) Justin P. Mattock -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:26 ` Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 14:35 ` Mihai Donțu -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Mihai Donțu @ 2010-08-09 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Justin P. Mattock Cc: viresh kumar, Matti Aarnio, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On Monday 09 August 2010 12:43:16 Justin P. Mattock wrote: > On 08/09/2010 02:35 AM, viresh kumar wrote: > > On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > >>>> I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email > >>>> for sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange > >>>> server only, so they are broken. > >> > >> Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. > >> "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" > >> > >> > >> It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these > >> emails... > > > > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. > > Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. > > that or just blast them with some cryptology..i.e. pretty sure if your > message was encapsulated(AH/ESP) they couldn't tweak it.. but then > sending such encryption to a public list would require a _key_ on the > other side.. wishful thinking... > (just a thought)... Shouldn't just signing the message be enough? The server (normally) would not alter it, otherwise it will break the signature (which is a too obvious bug even for Microsoft). Or am I missing something here? PS: A local SMTP with DKIM signing capabilities could be another possibility, assuming Exchange does not break such signatures. -- Mihai Donțu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-09 14:35 ` Mihai Donțu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Mihai Donțu @ 2010-08-09 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Monday 09 August 2010 12:43:16 Justin P. Mattock wrote: > On 08/09/2010 02:35 AM, viresh kumar wrote: > > On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > >>>> I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email > >>>> for sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange > >>>> server only, so they are broken. > >> > >> Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. > >> "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" > >> > >> > >> It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these > >> emails... > > > > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. > > Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. > > that or just blast them with some cryptology..i.e. pretty sure if your > message was encapsulated(AH/ESP) they couldn't tweak it.. but then > sending such encryption to a public list would require a _key_ on the > other side.. wishful thinking... > (just a thought)... Shouldn't just signing the message be enough? The server (normally) would not alter it, otherwise it will break the signature (which is a too obvious bug even for Microsoft). Or am I missing something here? PS: A local SMTP with DKIM signing capabilities could be another possibility, assuming Exchange does not break such signatures. -- Mihai Don?u ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 14:35 ` Mihai Donțu @ 2010-08-09 17:55 ` Justin P. Mattock -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mihai Donțu Cc: viresh kumar, Matti Aarnio, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On 08/09/2010 07:35 AM, Mihai Donțu wrote: > On Monday 09 August 2010 12:43:16 Justin P. Mattock wrote: >> On 08/09/2010 02:35 AM, viresh kumar wrote: >>> On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: >>>> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >>>>>> I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email >>>>>> for sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange >>>>>> server only, so they are broken. >>>> >>>> Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. >>>> "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" >>>> >>>> >>>> It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these >>>> emails... >>> >>> We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. >>> Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. >> >> that or just blast them with some cryptology..i.e. pretty sure if your >> message was encapsulated(AH/ESP) they couldn't tweak it.. but then >> sending such encryption to a public list would require a _key_ on the >> other side.. wishful thinking... >> (just a thought)... > > Shouldn't just signing the message be enough? The server (normally) would not > alter it, otherwise it will break the signature (which is a too obvious bug > even for Microsoft). Or am I missing something here? > > PS: A local SMTP with DKIM signing capabilities could be another possibility, > assuming Exchange does not break such signatures. > yeah that would probably be just enough to get through without Microsoft mucking around with the font etc.., but the biggest problem(I see) with the encryption is having the key on the other end of the line. Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-09 17:55 ` Justin P. Mattock 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 08/09/2010 07:35 AM, Mihai Don?u wrote: > On Monday 09 August 2010 12:43:16 Justin P. Mattock wrote: >> On 08/09/2010 02:35 AM, viresh kumar wrote: >>> On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: >>>> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >>>>>> I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email >>>>>> for sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange >>>>>> server only, so they are broken. >>>> >>>> Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. >>>> "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" >>>> >>>> >>>> It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these >>>> emails... >>> >>> We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. >>> Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. >> >> that or just blast them with some cryptology..i.e. pretty sure if your >> message was encapsulated(AH/ESP) they couldn't tweak it.. but then >> sending such encryption to a public list would require a _key_ on the >> other side.. wishful thinking... >> (just a thought)... > > Shouldn't just signing the message be enough? The server (normally) would not > alter it, otherwise it will break the signature (which is a too obvious bug > even for Microsoft). Or am I missing something here? > > PS: A local SMTP with DKIM signing capabilities could be another possibility, > assuming Exchange does not break such signatures. > yeah that would probably be just enough to get through without Microsoft mucking around with the font etc.., but the biggest problem(I see) with the encryption is having the key on the other end of the line. Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 17:55 ` Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 18:15 ` Mihai Donțu -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Mihai Donțu @ 2010-08-09 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Justin P. Mattock Cc: viresh kumar, Matti Aarnio, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On Monday 09 August 2010 20:55:08 Justin P. Mattock wrote: > On 08/09/2010 07:35 AM, Mihai Donțu wrote: > > On Monday 09 August 2010 12:43:16 Justin P. Mattock wrote: > >> On 08/09/2010 02:35 AM, viresh kumar wrote: > >>> On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > >>>>>> I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git > >>>>>> send-email for sending patches. As patches will go through > >>>>>> Microsoft exchange server only, so they are broken. > >>>> > >>>> Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. > >>>> "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these > >>>> emails... > >>> > >>> We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. > >>> Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. > >> > >> that or just blast them with some cryptology..i.e. pretty sure if your > >> message was encapsulated(AH/ESP) they couldn't tweak it.. but then > >> sending such encryption to a public list would require a _key_ on the > >> other side.. wishful thinking... > >> (just a thought)... > > > > Shouldn't just signing the message be enough? The server (normally) would > > not alter it, otherwise it will break the signature (which is a too > > obvious bug even for Microsoft). Or am I missing something here? > > > > PS: A local SMTP with DKIM signing capabilities could be another > > possibility, assuming Exchange does not break such signatures. > > yeah that would probably be just enough to get through without Microsoft > mucking around with the font etc.., but the biggest problem(I see) with > the encryption is having the key on the other end of the line. Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) -- Mihai Donțu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-09 18:15 ` Mihai Donțu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Mihai Donțu @ 2010-08-09 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Monday 09 August 2010 20:55:08 Justin P. Mattock wrote: > On 08/09/2010 07:35 AM, Mihai Don?u wrote: > > On Monday 09 August 2010 12:43:16 Justin P. Mattock wrote: > >> On 08/09/2010 02:35 AM, viresh kumar wrote: > >>> On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > >>>>>> I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git > >>>>>> send-email for sending patches. As patches will go through > >>>>>> Microsoft exchange server only, so they are broken. > >>>> > >>>> Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. > >>>> "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these > >>>> emails... > >>> > >>> We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. > >>> Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. > >> > >> that or just blast them with some cryptology..i.e. pretty sure if your > >> message was encapsulated(AH/ESP) they couldn't tweak it.. but then > >> sending such encryption to a public list would require a _key_ on the > >> other side.. wishful thinking... > >> (just a thought)... > > > > Shouldn't just signing the message be enough? The server (normally) would > > not alter it, otherwise it will break the signature (which is a too > > obvious bug even for Microsoft). Or am I missing something here? > > > > PS: A local SMTP with DKIM signing capabilities could be another > > possibility, assuming Exchange does not break such signatures. > > yeah that would probably be just enough to get through without Microsoft > mucking around with the font etc.., but the biggest problem(I see) with > the encryption is having the key on the other end of the line. Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) -- Mihai Don?u ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 18:15 ` Mihai Donțu @ 2010-08-09 18:53 ` Justin P. Mattock -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mihai Donțu Cc: viresh kumar, Matti Aarnio, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On 08/09/2010 11:15 AM, Mihai Donțu wrote: > On Monday 09 August 2010 20:55:08 Justin P. Mattock wrote: >> On 08/09/2010 07:35 AM, Mihai Donțu wrote: >>> On Monday 09 August 2010 12:43:16 Justin P. Mattock wrote: >>>> On 08/09/2010 02:35 AM, viresh kumar wrote: >>>>> On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >>>>>>>> I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git >>>>>>>> send-email for sending patches. As patches will go through >>>>>>>> Microsoft exchange server only, so they are broken. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. >>>>>> "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these >>>>>> emails... >>>>> >>>>> We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. >>>>> Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. >>>> >>>> that or just blast them with some cryptology..i.e. pretty sure if your >>>> message was encapsulated(AH/ESP) they couldn't tweak it.. but then >>>> sending such encryption to a public list would require a _key_ on the >>>> other side.. wishful thinking... >>>> (just a thought)... >>> >>> Shouldn't just signing the message be enough? The server (normally) would >>> not alter it, otherwise it will break the signature (which is a too >>> obvious bug even for Microsoft). Or am I missing something here? >>> >>> PS: A local SMTP with DKIM signing capabilities could be another >>> possibility, assuming Exchange does not break such signatures. >> >> yeah that would probably be just enough to get through without Microsoft >> mucking around with the font etc.., but the biggest problem(I see) with >> the encryption is having the key on the other end of the line. > > Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message > signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the > same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually > encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) > no were on the same page.. keep in mind though I'm not sure how the message signing thing really works, if it's just a signature verifying that it's from you without the other end(recipient) accepting anything, then the question is will microsoft still scan the email and garble it up? Now if it's a signature where the other end needs to accept the sender then im guessing there's a little bit of encryption there to keep microsoft database scanner from doing anything(but keep in mind I never really setup the signature thing on e-mails so I could totally be wrong) Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-09 18:53 ` Justin P. Mattock 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 08/09/2010 11:15 AM, Mihai Don?u wrote: > On Monday 09 August 2010 20:55:08 Justin P. Mattock wrote: >> On 08/09/2010 07:35 AM, Mihai Don?u wrote: >>> On Monday 09 August 2010 12:43:16 Justin P. Mattock wrote: >>>> On 08/09/2010 02:35 AM, viresh kumar wrote: >>>>> On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >>>>>>>> I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git >>>>>>>> send-email for sending patches. As patches will go through >>>>>>>> Microsoft exchange server only, so they are broken. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. >>>>>> "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these >>>>>> emails... >>>>> >>>>> We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. >>>>> Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. >>>> >>>> that or just blast them with some cryptology..i.e. pretty sure if your >>>> message was encapsulated(AH/ESP) they couldn't tweak it.. but then >>>> sending such encryption to a public list would require a _key_ on the >>>> other side.. wishful thinking... >>>> (just a thought)... >>> >>> Shouldn't just signing the message be enough? The server (normally) would >>> not alter it, otherwise it will break the signature (which is a too >>> obvious bug even for Microsoft). Or am I missing something here? >>> >>> PS: A local SMTP with DKIM signing capabilities could be another >>> possibility, assuming Exchange does not break such signatures. >> >> yeah that would probably be just enough to get through without Microsoft >> mucking around with the font etc.., but the biggest problem(I see) with >> the encryption is having the key on the other end of the line. > > Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message > signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the > same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually > encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) > no were on the same page.. keep in mind though I'm not sure how the message signing thing really works, if it's just a signature verifying that it's from you without the other end(recipient) accepting anything, then the question is will microsoft still scan the email and garble it up? Now if it's a signature where the other end needs to accept the sender then im guessing there's a little bit of encryption there to keep microsoft database scanner from doing anything(but keep in mind I never really setup the signature thing on e-mails so I could totally be wrong) Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 18:15 ` Mihai Donțu @ 2010-08-09 21:28 ` David Woodhouse -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-09 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mihai Donțu Cc: Justin P. Mattock, viresh kumar, Matti Aarnio, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:15 +0300, Mihai Donțu wrote: > > Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message > signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the > same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually > encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) Only when you assume that Exchange would pass signed messages without corrupting them. It really is that broken. -- dwmw2 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-09 21:28 ` David Woodhouse 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-09 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:15 +0300, Mihai Don?u wrote: > > Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message > signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the > same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually > encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) Only when you assume that Exchange would pass signed messages without corrupting them. It really is that broken. -- dwmw2 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 21:28 ` David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-09 21:56 ` Justin P. Mattock -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Woodhouse Cc: Mihai Donțu, viresh kumar, Matti Aarnio, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On 08/09/2010 02:28 PM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:15 +0300, Mihai Donțu wrote: >> >> Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message >> signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the >> same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually >> encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) > > Only when you assume that Exchange would pass signed messages without > corrupting them. It really is that broken. > figured the encryption would be kind of a last resort situation..but if it's that broken to where it wont pass it along without corrupting, then the best solution is to figure out what Microsoft needs in terms of encoding, i.e. is there a way to have the scanner scan but not throw everything around after it scans.(if this is what it's doing) Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-09 21:56 ` Justin P. Mattock 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 08/09/2010 02:28 PM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:15 +0300, Mihai Don?u wrote: >> >> Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message >> signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the >> same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually >> encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) > > Only when you assume that Exchange would pass signed messages without > corrupting them. It really is that broken. > figured the encryption would be kind of a last resort situation..but if it's that broken to where it wont pass it along without corrupting, then the best solution is to figure out what Microsoft needs in terms of encoding, i.e. is there a way to have the scanner scan but not throw everything around after it scans.(if this is what it's doing) Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 21:56 ` Justin P. Mattock (?) @ 2010-08-09 22:12 ` Valeo de Vries 2010-08-09 22:24 ` Justin P. Mattock -1 siblings, 1 reply; 74+ messages in thread From: Valeo de Vries @ 2010-08-09 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Justin P. Mattock; +Cc: linux-kernel On 9 August 2010 22:56, Justin P. Mattock <justinmattock@gmail.com> wrote: > On 08/09/2010 02:28 PM, David Woodhouse wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:15 +0300, Mihai Donțu wrote: >>> >>> Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about >>> message >>> signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's >>> the >>> same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually >>> encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) >> >> Only when you assume that Exchange would pass signed messages without >> corrupting them. It really is that broken. >> > > figured the encryption would be kind of a last resort situation..but if it's > that broken to where it wont pass it along without corrupting, then the best > solution is to figure out what Microsoft needs in terms of encoding, i.e. is > there a way to have the scanner scan but not throw everything around after > it scans.(if this is what it's doing) The link I posted earlier seems to give the impression that quoted-printable might do that. I may have misread that, though... Valeo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 22:12 ` Valeo de Vries @ 2010-08-09 22:24 ` Justin P. Mattock 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-09 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Valeo de Vries; +Cc: linux-kernel On 08/09/2010 03:12 PM, Valeo de Vries wrote: > On 9 August 2010 22:56, Justin P. Mattock<justinmattock@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 08/09/2010 02:28 PM, David Woodhouse wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:15 +0300, Mihai Donțu wrote: >>>> >>>> Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about >>>> message >>>> signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's >>>> the >>>> same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually >>>> encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) >>> >>> Only when you assume that Exchange would pass signed messages without >>> corrupting them. It really is that broken. >>> >> >> figured the encryption would be kind of a last resort situation..but if it's >> that broken to where it wont pass it along without corrupting, then the best >> solution is to figure out what Microsoft needs in terms of encoding, i.e. is >> there a way to have the scanner scan but not throw everything around after >> it scans.(if this is what it's doing) > > The link I posted earlier seems to give the impression that > quoted-printable might do that. I may have misread that, though... > > Valeo > make sense.. Im wondering if it's a simple tell microsoft to scan the original email, take the garbled copied email and send out the original email rather than updating exchange etc... Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 21:28 ` David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-11 14:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Geert Uytterhoeven @ 2010-08-11 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Woodhouse Cc: Mihai Donțu, Justin P. Mattock, viresh kumar, Matti Aarnio, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 23:28, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:15 +0300, Mihai Donțu wrote: >> >> Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message >> signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the >> same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually >> encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) > > Only when you assume that Exchange would pass signed messages without > corrupting them. It really is that broken. Indeed. In my experience Exchange may - corrupt PGP signed email, causing the signature verification to fail, - send/forward all email in BASE64, causing it to be dropped by vger.kernel.org. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-11 14:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Geert Uytterhoeven @ 2010-08-11 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 23:28, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:15 +0300, Mihai Don?u wrote: >> >> Wait. I don't think we're on the same page here. I'm talking about message >> signing (which does not require the receiving end to have any key - it's the >> same plain text e-mail with a blob after it) while you refer to actually >> encrypting the message. Mm? Or am I being extremely slow today? :-) > > Only when you assume that Exchange would pass signed messages without > corrupting them. It really is that broken. Indeed. In my experience Exchange may - corrupt PGP signed email, causing the signature verification to fail, - send/forward all email in BASE64, causing it to be dropped by vger.kernel.org. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert at linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ?? -- Linus Torvalds ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* RE: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:26 ` viresh kumar @ 2010-08-10 9:22 ` Gadiyar, Anand -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Gadiyar, Anand @ 2010-08-10 9:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar, Matti Aarnio; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel viresh kumar wrote: > On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > >> > > >> > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for > >> > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, > >> > so they are broken. > >> > > > Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. > > "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" > > > > > > It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails... > > > > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. > Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. > Upgrading the Exchange server worked for us a couple of years ago. At least git-send-email works okay now, but Outlook is horribly broken. You could use gmail/others and send externally. Adding an explicit "From :" line in the patch can still give you credits to your official email address. - Anand ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-10 9:22 ` Gadiyar, Anand 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Gadiyar, Anand @ 2010-08-10 9:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel viresh kumar wrote: > On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > >> > > >> > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for > >> > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, > >> > so they are broken. > >> > > > Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. > > "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" > > > > > > It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails... > > > > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. > Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. > Upgrading the Exchange server worked for us a couple of years ago. At least git-send-email works okay now, but Outlook is horribly broken. You could use gmail/others and send externally. Adding an explicit "From :" line in the patch can still give you credits to your official email address. - Anand ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-10 9:22 ` Gadiyar, Anand @ 2010-08-10 9:26 ` viresh kumar -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-10 9:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gadiyar, Anand; +Cc: Matti Aarnio, linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel On 8/10/2010 2:52 PM, Gadiyar, Anand wrote: > viresh kumar wrote: >> > On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: >>> > > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for >>>>> > >> > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, >>>>> > >> > so they are broken. >>>>> > >> > >>> > > Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. >>> > > "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails... >>> > > >> > >> > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. >> > Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. >> > > Upgrading the Exchange server worked for us a couple of years ago. At least > git-send-email works okay now, but Outlook is horribly broken. > > You could use gmail/others and send externally. Adding an explicit > "From :" line in the patch can still give you credits to your official > email address. > Thanks Anand. Lets see if our IT support team manages to upgrade to SP2 or not. viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-10 9:26 ` viresh kumar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-10 9:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 8/10/2010 2:52 PM, Gadiyar, Anand wrote: > viresh kumar wrote: >> > On 8/9/2010 2:31 PM, Matti Aarnio wrote: >>> > > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:26:24PM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > I missed this information in my last mail. We are using git send-email for >>>>> > >> > sending patches. As patches will go through Microsoft exchange server only, >>>>> > >> > so they are broken. >>>>> > >> > >>> > > Let your boss complain to your IT keepers. >>> > > "These are Machine-to-Machine messages, they must not be modified!" >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these emails... >>> > > >> > >> > We got one solution: Upgrade Exchange server to SP2. >> > Lets see if our IT department does this upgradation. >> > > Upgrading the Exchange server worked for us a couple of years ago. At least > git-send-email works okay now, but Outlook is horribly broken. > > You could use gmail/others and send externally. Adding an explicit > "From :" line in the patch can still give you credits to your official > email address. > Thanks Anand. Lets see if our IT support team manages to upgrade to SP2 or not. viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:26 ` Matti Aarnio @ 2018-06-19 20:26 ` David Woodhouse -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-09 10:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matti Aarnio; +Cc: viresh kumar, linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 12:01 +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: > It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these > emails... If that's the case, then you really *do* need to get your boss to fix it. If the company provides a working email account, it makes a certain amount of sense for them to ask you to use it. But if all they provide is Microsoft Exchange, that's insane -- what Exchange provides is *like* email, but it is *not* email. Once you start trying to use it for real email, you find it's broken by design in a large number of ways. It makes no sense for them to require that you use Exchange for Internet email, because that's not what Exchange does. If my corporate overloads told me I had to use my Exchange "messaging" account for external email communication, they would get a quite clear 'no' in response. My response may also contain suggestions that they use certain other objects for purposes for which they were not designed. Seriously, just use an external email account and ignore the broken corporate policy. 'Policy' is just a euphemism for not having to think for yourself. -- dwmw2 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:26 ` David Woodhouse 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: David Woodhouse @ 2018-06-19 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 12:01 +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: > It would probably be "against corporate policy" to use gmail for these > emails... If that's the case, then you really *do* need to get your boss to fix it. If the company provides a working email account, it makes a certain amount of sense for them to ask you to use it. But if all they provide is Microsoft Exchange, that's insane -- what Exchange provides is *like* email, but it is *not* email. Once you start trying to use it for real email, you find it's broken by design in a large number of ways. It makes no sense for them to require that you use Exchange for Internet email, because that's not what Exchange does. If my corporate overloads told me I had to use my Exchange "messaging" account for external email communication, they would get a quite clear 'no' in response. My response may also contain suggestions that they use certain other objects for purposes for which they were not designed. Seriously, just use an external email account and ignore the broken corporate policy. 'Policy' is just a euphemism for not having to think for yourself. -- dwmw2 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:26 ` David Woodhouse @ 2018-06-19 20:42 ` Willy Tarreau -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Willy Tarreau @ 2018-06-19 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Woodhouse Cc: Matti Aarnio, viresh kumar, linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:02:44AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > If my corporate overloads told me I had to use my Exchange "messaging" > account for external email communication, they would get a quite clear > 'no' in response. My response may also contain suggestions that they use > certain other objects for purposes for which they were not designed. I'd say that if, after having been calmly explained the nature of the trouble caused, they don't care, it's a clear demonstration of total lack of respect of your work by deliberately breaking the tools you need to do it. Generally it's the signal that it's time to find a more respectful employer. Willy ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2018-06-19 20:42 ` Willy Tarreau 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Willy Tarreau @ 2018-06-19 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:02:44AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > If my corporate overloads told me I had to use my Exchange "messaging" > account for external email communication, they would get a quite clear > 'no' in response. My response may also contain suggestions that they use > certain other objects for purposes for which they were not designed. I'd say that if, after having been calmly explained the nature of the trouble caused, they don't care, it's a clear demonstration of total lack of respect of your work by deliberately breaking the tools you need to do it. Generally it's the signal that it's time to find a more respectful employer. Willy ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:23 ` viresh kumar @ 2010-08-09 14:19 ` Richard Cochran -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Richard Cochran @ 2010-08-09 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:37:33AM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any > workarounds possible? I have this same problem. The exchange server rewrites incoming and outgoing plain text emails as it sees fit, and our IT department seems unable to turn this "feature" off. One work around is to get an gmail account and use IMAP. Good luck, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-09 14:19 ` Richard Cochran 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Richard Cochran @ 2010-08-09 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:37:33AM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: > > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any > workarounds possible? I have this same problem. The exchange server rewrites incoming and outgoing plain text emails as it sees fit, and our IT department seems unable to turn this "feature" off. One work around is to get an gmail account and use IMAP. Good luck, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-09 14:19 ` Richard Cochran (?) @ 2010-08-09 14:34 ` Valeo de Vries -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Valeo de Vries @ 2010-08-09 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Cochran; +Cc: linux-kernel On 9 August 2010 15:19, Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:37:33AM +0530, viresh kumar wrote: >> >> Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >> workarounds possible? > > I have this same problem. The exchange server rewrites incoming and > outgoing plain text emails as it sees fit, and our IT department seems > unable to turn this "feature" off. > > One work around is to get an gmail account and use IMAP. The other solution is to kindly request that one's IS department upgrades Exchange so that this particular issue (of converting tabs to spaces) won't be a problem any longer... ;) You're right though, it's probably easier just to use another provider for e-mail, as this isn't the only way Exchange will mess with patches. Valeo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:23 ` viresh kumar (?) @ 2010-08-10 22:04 ` Felipe Contreras -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Felipe Contreras @ 2010-08-10 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar, git; +Cc: linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:07 AM, viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may > be some other too which we haven't observed. > > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any > workarounds possible? Same in Nokia. I wrote a script to fix exchange's crap, but I also noticed some quoted-printable mails didn't get converted, so the easiest would be to tell git to always send quoted-printable. git folks: any chance of getting that feature to git send-email? -- Felipe Contreras ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-10 22:04 ` Felipe Contreras 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Felipe Contreras @ 2010-08-10 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:07 AM, viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may > be some other too which we haven't observed. > > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any > workarounds possible? Same in Nokia. I wrote a script to fix exchange's crap, but I also noticed some quoted-printable mails didn't get converted, so the easiest would be to tell git to always send quoted-printable. git folks: any chance of getting that feature to git send-email? -- Felipe Contreras ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-10 22:04 ` Felipe Contreras 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Felipe Contreras @ 2010-08-10 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar, git; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-arm-kernel On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:07 AM, viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may > be some other too which we haven't observed. > > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any > workarounds possible? Same in Nokia. I wrote a script to fix exchange's crap, but I also noticed some quoted-printable mails didn't get converted, so the easiest would be to tell git to always send quoted-printable. git folks: any chance of getting that feature to git send-email? -- Felipe Contreras ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-10 22:04 ` Felipe Contreras @ 2010-08-11 7:01 ` viresh kumar -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-11 7:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Felipe Contreras Cc: git, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, Justin P. Mattock, Uwe Kleine-König, Valeo de Vries, Linus Walleij, Matti Aarnio, mihai.dontu, dwmw2, richardcochran, Gadiyar, Anand On 8/11/2010 3:34 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:07 AM, viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: >> > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >> > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >> > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >> > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >> > be some other too which we haven't observed. >> > >> > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >> > workarounds possible? > Same in Nokia. I wrote a script to fix exchange's crap, but I also > noticed some quoted-printable mails didn't get converted, so the > easiest would be to tell git to always send quoted-printable. > Hi Guys The situation has changed now. We are informed that SP2 is already in place in ST and mail client is not doing any tampering. When i send a mail using git send-email then it receives fine on outlook but on thunderbird, tabs are converted to spaces. This doesn't happen with every patch on thunderbird, but only a few. And observation is that it happens only with big patches. (more than 500 lines) Any idea, how to solve issue now on thunderbird?? viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-11 7:01 ` viresh kumar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-11 7:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 8/11/2010 3:34 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:07 AM, viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: >> > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >> > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >> > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >> > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >> > be some other too which we haven't observed. >> > >> > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >> > workarounds possible? > Same in Nokia. I wrote a script to fix exchange's crap, but I also > noticed some quoted-printable mails didn't get converted, so the > easiest would be to tell git to always send quoted-printable. > Hi Guys The situation has changed now. We are informed that SP2 is already in place in ST and mail client is not doing any tampering. When i send a mail using git send-email then it receives fine on outlook but on thunderbird, tabs are converted to spaces. This doesn't happen with every patch on thunderbird, but only a few. And observation is that it happens only with big patches. (more than 500 lines) Any idea, how to solve issue now on thunderbird?? viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 7:01 ` viresh kumar (?) @ 2010-08-11 10:11 ` Valeo de Vries 2010-08-11 10:53 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-11 13:33 ` Justin P. Mattock -1 siblings, 2 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Valeo de Vries @ 2010-08-11 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar; +Cc: linux-kernel On 11 August 2010 08:01, viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: > On 8/11/2010 3:34 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:07 AM, viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: >>> > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >>> > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >>> > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >>> > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >>> > be some other too which we haven't observed. >>> > >>> > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >>> > workarounds possible? >> Same in Nokia. I wrote a script to fix exchange's crap, but I also >> noticed some quoted-printable mails didn't get converted, so the >> easiest would be to tell git to always send quoted-printable. >> > > Hi Guys > > The situation has changed now. > We are informed that SP2 is already in place in ST and mail client is not > doing any tampering. > > When i send a mail using git send-email then it receives fine on > outlook but on thunderbird, tabs are converted to spaces. > > This doesn't happen with every patch on thunderbird, but only a few. > And observation is that it happens only with big patches. > (more than 500 lines) > > Any idea, how to solve issue now on thunderbird?? You might be in luck: * Choose View – Toolbars to ensure that the formatting toolbar is visible, then at the left of the formatting toolbar change Body Text to Preformat. (lifted straight from Google) HTH, Valeo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 10:11 ` Valeo de Vries @ 2010-08-11 10:53 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-11 11:38 ` Wouter Simons 2010-08-11 13:33 ` Justin P. Mattock 1 sibling, 1 reply; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-11 10:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Valeo de Vries; +Cc: linux-kernel On 8/11/2010 3:41 PM, Valeo de Vries wrote: > On 11 August 2010 08:01, viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: >> > On 8/11/2010 3:34 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> >> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:07 AM, viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: >>>>> >>> > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >>>>> >>> > exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >>>>> >>> > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >>>>> >>> > sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >>>>> >>> > be some other too which we haven't observed. >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >>>>> >>> > workarounds possible? >>> >> Same in Nokia. I wrote a script to fix exchange's crap, but I also >>> >> noticed some quoted-printable mails didn't get converted, so the >>> >> easiest would be to tell git to always send quoted-printable. >>> >> >> > >> > Hi Guys >> > >> > The situation has changed now. >> > We are informed that SP2 is already in place in ST and mail client is not >> > doing any tampering. >> > >> > When i send a mail using git send-email then it receives fine on >> > outlook but on thunderbird, tabs are converted to spaces. >> > >> > This doesn't happen with every patch on thunderbird, but only a few. >> > And observation is that it happens only with big patches. >> > (more than 500 lines) >> > >> > Any idea, how to solve issue now on thunderbird?? > You might be in luck: > > * Choose View – Toolbars to ensure that the formatting toolbar is visible, > then at the left of the formatting toolbar change Body Text to Preformat. > (lifted straight from Google) I couldn't find preformat. Is this same as plain text? If so i have tried it. I am not facing problem while writing mails from thunderbird but while receiving patches on thunderbird. PS: The problem stated in google is while writing mails. viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 10:53 ` viresh kumar @ 2010-08-11 11:38 ` Wouter Simons 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Wouter Simons @ 2010-08-11 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar; +Cc: linux-kernel On 08/11/2010 12:53 PM, viresh kumar wrote: > I couldn't find preformat. Is this same as plain text? If so i have tried it. > I am not facing problem while writing mails from thunderbird but while receiving > patches on thunderbird. My thunderbird with default settings does not replace tabs with spaces. Perhaps the difference between outlook and thunderbird has to do with the method of connecting? On thunderbird you probably use IMAP to get your email from exchange, the IMAP system is horrible on exchange. I suspect it has to do with the implementation of rules regarding spaces. The conformance documentation [1] of MS does not detail this sufficiently, but I am pretty sure that if you use an alternate mail client you will see the spaces replaced also when connecting through IMAP. [1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee624585%28v=EXCHG.80%29.aspx Wouter ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 10:11 ` Valeo de Vries 2010-08-11 10:53 ` viresh kumar @ 2010-08-11 13:33 ` Justin P. Mattock 1 sibling, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Justin P. Mattock @ 2010-08-11 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Valeo de Vries; +Cc: viresh kumar, linux-kernel On 08/11/2010 03:11 AM, Valeo de Vries wrote: > On 11 August 2010 08:01, viresh kumar<viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: >> On 8/11/2010 3:34 AM, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:07 AM, viresh kumar<viresh.kumar@st.com> wrote: >>>>> Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have Microsoft >>>>> exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. >>>>> What we observed with this server is that patch are broken now while >>>>> sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by spaces and may >>>>> be some other too which we haven't observed. >>>>> >>>>> Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are there any >>>>> workarounds possible? >>> Same in Nokia. I wrote a script to fix exchange's crap, but I also >>> noticed some quoted-printable mails didn't get converted, so the >>> easiest would be to tell git to always send quoted-printable. >>> >> >> Hi Guys >> >> The situation has changed now. >> We are informed that SP2 is already in place in ST and mail client is not >> doing any tampering. >> >> When i send a mail using git send-email then it receives fine on >> outlook but on thunderbird, tabs are converted to spaces. >> >> This doesn't happen with every patch on thunderbird, but only a few. >> And observation is that it happens only with big patches. >> (more than 500 lines) >> >> Any idea, how to solve issue now on thunderbird?? > > You might be in luck: > > * Choose View – Toolbars to ensure that the formatting toolbar is visible, > then at the left of the formatting toolbar change Body Text to Preformat. > (lifted straight from Google) > > HTH, > Valeo > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > cool... glad it's semi some what working.. doing a quick google Im getting directed to Documentation/email-clients.txt for thunderbird in the above procedure. (hope the above last post fixes your issue, and/or in email-clients.txt) Justin P. Mattock ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 7:01 ` viresh kumar (?) @ 2010-08-11 15:46 ` Jeffrey Hundstad -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey Hundstad @ 2010-08-11 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar Cc: Felipe Contreras, git, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, Justin P. Mattock, Uwe Kleine-König, Valeo de Vries, Linus Walleij, Matti Aarnio, mihai.dontu, dwmw2, richardcochran, Gadiyar, Anand On 08/11/2010 02:01 AM, viresh kumar wrote: > When i send a mail using git send-email then it receives fine on > outlook but on thunderbird, tabs are converted to spaces. > > This doesn't happen with every patch on thunderbird, but only a few. > And observation is that it happens only with big patches. > (more than 500 lines) > > Any idea, how to solve issue now on thunderbird?? Hello, Exchange 2010 does not handle IMAP "chunking" (partial message transfer) correctly. Any request after about 1 megabyte of total message size will fail. Thunderbird uses this "chunking" feature to give you a status update while downloading large messages. The IMAP statements are of this type: 11 UID fetch 244477 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY[]<20480.12288>) When the 20480 is larger than 1MB Exchange "claims" there is no more. Sigh.... Fortunately you can disable this feature. To disable this in Thunderbird you can go to the Advanced configuration and disable the following feature, by setting it to false: mail.server.default.fetch_by_chunks -- Jeffrey Hundstad ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-11 15:46 ` Jeffrey Hundstad 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey Hundstad @ 2010-08-11 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 08/11/2010 02:01 AM, viresh kumar wrote: > When i send a mail using git send-email then it receives fine on > outlook but on thunderbird, tabs are converted to spaces. > > This doesn't happen with every patch on thunderbird, but only a few. > And observation is that it happens only with big patches. > (more than 500 lines) > > Any idea, how to solve issue now on thunderbird?? Hello, Exchange 2010 does not handle IMAP "chunking" (partial message transfer) correctly. Any request after about 1 megabyte of total message size will fail. Thunderbird uses this "chunking" feature to give you a status update while downloading large messages. The IMAP statements are of this type: 11 UID fetch 244477 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY[]<20480.12288>) When the 20480 is larger than 1MB Exchange "claims" there is no more. Sigh.... Fortunately you can disable this feature. To disable this in Thunderbird you can go to the Advanced configuration and disable the following feature, by setting it to false: mail.server.default.fetch_by_chunks -- Jeffrey Hundstad ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-11 15:46 ` Jeffrey Hundstad 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey Hundstad @ 2010-08-11 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar Cc: mihai.dontu, Linus Walleij, richardcochran, Felipe Contreras, linux-kernel, Matti Aarnio, git, Justin P. Mattock, Uwe Kleine-König, Gadiyar, Anand, dwmw2, linux-arm-kernel, Valeo de Vries On 08/11/2010 02:01 AM, viresh kumar wrote: > When i send a mail using git send-email then it receives fine on > outlook but on thunderbird, tabs are converted to spaces. > > This doesn't happen with every patch on thunderbird, but only a few. > And observation is that it happens only with big patches. > (more than 500 lines) > > Any idea, how to solve issue now on thunderbird?? Hello, Exchange 2010 does not handle IMAP "chunking" (partial message transfer) correctly. Any request after about 1 megabyte of total message size will fail. Thunderbird uses this "chunking" feature to give you a status update while downloading large messages. The IMAP statements are of this type: 11 UID fetch 244477 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY[]<20480.12288>) When the 20480 is larger than 1MB Exchange "claims" there is no more. Sigh.... Fortunately you can disable this feature. To disable this in Thunderbird you can go to the Advanced configuration and disable the following feature, by setting it to false: mail.server.default.fetch_by_chunks -- Jeffrey Hundstad ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 15:46 ` Jeffrey Hundstad @ 2010-08-11 15:58 ` David Woodhouse -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-11 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeffrey Hundstad Cc: viresh kumar, Felipe Contreras, git, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, Justin P. Mattock, Uwe Kleine-König, Valeo de Vries, Linus Walleij, Matti Aarnio, mihai.dontu, richardcochran, Gadiyar, Anand On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 10:46 -0500, Jeffrey Hundstad wrote: > Exchange 2010 does not handle IMAP "chunking" (partial message transfer) > correctly. Any request after about 1 megabyte of total message size > will fail. > > Thunderbird uses this "chunking" feature to give you a status update > while downloading large messages. The IMAP statements are of this type: > 11 UID fetch 244477 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY[]<20480.12288>) > > When the 20480 is larger than 1MB Exchange "claims" there is no more. > Sigh.... I think the problem is not with the fetching -- the problem is that Exchange lies about RFC822.SIZE before the IMAP client even starts to fetch the message. It reports a size which is smaller than the actual size of the message, thus leading to truncated fetches. In Evolution we have a workaround -- we don't just stop when we get to the reported RFC822.SIZE; we continue fetching more chunks until the server actually stops giving us any more. It's not as efficient (because we fall back to having only one more chunk outstanding at a time rather than the normal three in parallel), but at least it works around this brokenness of Exchange. http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=9714c064 -- David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre David.Woodhouse@intel.com Intel Corporation ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-11 15:58 ` David Woodhouse 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-11 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 10:46 -0500, Jeffrey Hundstad wrote: > Exchange 2010 does not handle IMAP "chunking" (partial message transfer) > correctly. Any request after about 1 megabyte of total message size > will fail. > > Thunderbird uses this "chunking" feature to give you a status update > while downloading large messages. The IMAP statements are of this type: > 11 UID fetch 244477 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY[]<20480.12288>) > > When the 20480 is larger than 1MB Exchange "claims" there is no more. > Sigh.... I think the problem is not with the fetching -- the problem is that Exchange lies about RFC822.SIZE before the IMAP client even starts to fetch the message. It reports a size which is smaller than the actual size of the message, thus leading to truncated fetches. In Evolution we have a workaround -- we don't just stop when we get to the reported RFC822.SIZE; we continue fetching more chunks until the server actually stops giving us any more. It's not as efficient (because we fall back to having only one more chunk outstanding at a time rather than the normal three in parallel), but at least it works around this brokenness of Exchange. http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=9714c064 -- David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre David.Woodhouse at intel.com Intel Corporation ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 15:58 ` David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-11 16:16 ` Jeffrey Hundstad -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey Hundstad @ 2010-08-11 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Woodhouse Cc: viresh kumar, Felipe Contreras, git, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, Justin P. Mattock, Uwe Kleine-König, Valeo de Vries, Linus Walleij, Matti Aarnio, mihai.dontu, richardcochran, Gadiyar, Anand On 08/11/2010 10:58 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 10:46 -0500, Jeffrey Hundstad wrote: >> Exchange 2010 does not handle IMAP "chunking" (partial message transfer) >> correctly. Any request after about 1 megabyte of total message size >> will fail. >> >> Thunderbird uses this "chunking" feature to give you a status update >> while downloading large messages. The IMAP statements are of this type: >> 11 UID fetch 244477 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY[]<20480.12288>) >> >> When the 20480 is larger than 1MB Exchange "claims" there is no more. >> Sigh.... > > I think the problem is not with the fetching -- the problem is that > Exchange lies about RFC822.SIZE before the IMAP client even starts to > fetch the message. It reports a size which is smaller than the actual > size of the message, thus leading to truncated fetches. > > In Evolution we have a workaround -- we don't just stop when we get to > the reported RFC822.SIZE; we continue fetching more chunks until the > server actually stops giving us any more. It's not as efficient (because > we fall back to having only one more chunk outstanding at a time rather > than the normal three in parallel), but at least it works around this > brokenness of Exchange. > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=9714c064 > In either case it can be used successfully by disabling mail.server.default.fetch_by_chunks in Thunderbird. -- Jeffrey Hundstad ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-11 16:16 ` Jeffrey Hundstad 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey Hundstad @ 2010-08-11 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 08/11/2010 10:58 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 10:46 -0500, Jeffrey Hundstad wrote: >> Exchange 2010 does not handle IMAP "chunking" (partial message transfer) >> correctly. Any request after about 1 megabyte of total message size >> will fail. >> >> Thunderbird uses this "chunking" feature to give you a status update >> while downloading large messages. The IMAP statements are of this type: >> 11 UID fetch 244477 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY[]<20480.12288>) >> >> When the 20480 is larger than 1MB Exchange "claims" there is no more. >> Sigh.... > > I think the problem is not with the fetching -- the problem is that > Exchange lies about RFC822.SIZE before the IMAP client even starts to > fetch the message. It reports a size which is smaller than the actual > size of the message, thus leading to truncated fetches. > > In Evolution we have a workaround -- we don't just stop when we get to > the reported RFC822.SIZE; we continue fetching more chunks until the > server actually stops giving us any more. It's not as efficient (because > we fall back to having only one more chunk outstanding at a time rather > than the normal three in parallel), but at least it works around this > brokenness of Exchange. > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=9714c064 > In either case it can be used successfully by disabling mail.server.default.fetch_by_chunks in Thunderbird. -- Jeffrey Hundstad ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 15:58 ` David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-11 16:18 ` Avery Pennarun -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Avery Pennarun @ 2010-08-11 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Woodhouse Cc: Jeffrey Hundstad, viresh kumar, Felipe Contreras, git, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, Justin P. Mattock, Uwe Kleine-König, Valeo de Vries, Linus Walleij, Matti Aarnio, mihai.dontu, richardcochran, Gadiyar, Anand On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:58 AM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote: > In Evolution we have a workaround -- we don't just stop when we get to > the reported RFC822.SIZE; we continue fetching more chunks until the > server actually stops giving us any more. It's not as efficient (because > we fall back to having only one more chunk outstanding at a time rather > than the normal three in parallel), but at least it works around this > brokenness of Exchange. > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=9714c064 Out of curiosity, why fall back to one chunk at a time? It seems to me that IMAP should be able to still support multiple outstanding requests in that case, but you'd just get errors on the latter chunks. It is just that there was no point optimizing the workaround case? Have fun, Avery ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-11 16:18 ` Avery Pennarun 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Avery Pennarun @ 2010-08-11 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:58 AM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote: > In Evolution we have a workaround -- we don't just stop when we get to > the reported RFC822.SIZE; we continue fetching more chunks until the > server actually stops giving us any more. It's not as efficient (because > we fall back to having only one more chunk outstanding at a time rather > than the normal three in parallel), but at least it works around this > brokenness of Exchange. > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?id=9714c064 Out of curiosity, why fall back to one chunk at a time? It seems to me that IMAP should be able to still support multiple outstanding requests in that case, but you'd just get errors on the latter chunks. It is just that there was no point optimizing the workaround case? Have fun, Avery ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 16:18 ` Avery Pennarun @ 2010-08-11 16:30 ` David Woodhouse -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-11 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Avery Pennarun Cc: Jeffrey Hundstad, viresh kumar, Felipe Contreras, git, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, Justin P. Mattock, Uwe Kleine-König, Valeo de Vries, Linus Walleij, Matti Aarnio, mihai.dontu, richardcochran, Gadiyar, Anand On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 12:18 -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote: > > Out of curiosity, why fall back to one chunk at a time? It seems to > me that IMAP should be able to still support multiple outstanding > requests in that case, but you'd just get errors on the latter chunks. > > It is just that there was no point optimizing the workaround case? There wasn't a lot of point in optimising it. The current logic, shown in the patch I referenced, is to keep fetching new chunks while the stream position matches the end of the previous chunk we attempted to fetch. To handle multiple outstanding requests, especially if they can be satisfied out-of-order, would have been more complex because the stream position (in the 'really_fetched' variable) wouldn't necessarily match anything interesting. We'd have to keep more state, and the whole thing would get a lot more intrusive. Also, for the common case where the server isn't broken and the mail size happens not to fall on a chunk boundary, the current implementation results in no extra fetch requests. Doing otherwise would either mean extra fetch requests even for this common case, or would mean even more complexity to 'catch up' by issuing additional fetch requests as soon as we realise the server lied about RFC822.SIZE (which is when we receive the last chunk, and it runs over the size we expected). It may be that there's a neat and simple way to handle all of the above, and if so then patches would be welcome -- but personally, I just couldn't be bothered to think too hard about it. There were more pressing matters to attend to, like implementing QRESYNC support. -- David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre David.Woodhouse@intel.com Intel Corporation ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-11 16:30 ` David Woodhouse 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-11 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 12:18 -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote: > > Out of curiosity, why fall back to one chunk at a time? It seems to > me that IMAP should be able to still support multiple outstanding > requests in that case, but you'd just get errors on the latter chunks. > > It is just that there was no point optimizing the workaround case? There wasn't a lot of point in optimising it. The current logic, shown in the patch I referenced, is to keep fetching new chunks while the stream position matches the end of the previous chunk we attempted to fetch. To handle multiple outstanding requests, especially if they can be satisfied out-of-order, would have been more complex because the stream position (in the 'really_fetched' variable) wouldn't necessarily match anything interesting. We'd have to keep more state, and the whole thing would get a lot more intrusive. Also, for the common case where the server isn't broken and the mail size happens not to fall on a chunk boundary, the current implementation results in no extra fetch requests. Doing otherwise would either mean extra fetch requests even for this common case, or would mean even more complexity to 'catch up' by issuing additional fetch requests as soon as we realise the server lied about RFC822.SIZE (which is when we receive the last chunk, and it runs over the size we expected). It may be that there's a neat and simple way to handle all of the above, and if so then patches would be welcome -- but personally, I just couldn't be bothered to think too hard about it. There were more pressing matters to attend to, like implementing QRESYNC support. -- David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre David.Woodhouse at intel.com Intel Corporation ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 16:30 ` David Woodhouse @ 2010-08-11 16:39 ` Avery Pennarun -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Avery Pennarun @ 2010-08-11 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Woodhouse Cc: Jeffrey Hundstad, viresh kumar, Felipe Contreras, git, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, Justin P. Mattock, Uwe Kleine-König, Valeo de Vries, Linus Walleij, Matti Aarnio, mihai.dontu, richardcochran, Gadiyar, Anand On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:30 PM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 12:18 -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote: >> Out of curiosity, why fall back to one chunk at a time? It seems to >> me that IMAP should be able to still support multiple outstanding >> requests in that case, but you'd just get errors on the latter chunks. >> >> It is just that there was no point optimizing the workaround case? > > There wasn't a lot of point in optimising it. Say no more :) I code on some IMAP clients occasionally and I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something important. Thanks! Avery ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-11 16:39 ` Avery Pennarun 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Avery Pennarun @ 2010-08-11 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:30 PM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 12:18 -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote: >> Out of curiosity, why fall back to one chunk at a time? ?It seems to >> me that IMAP should be able to still support multiple outstanding >> requests in that case, but you'd just get errors on the latter chunks. >> >> It is just that there was no point optimizing the workaround case? > > There wasn't a lot of point in optimising it. Say no more :) I code on some IMAP clients occasionally and I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something important. Thanks! Avery ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Re: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2010-08-11 15:46 ` Jeffrey Hundstad @ 2010-08-12 4:41 ` viresh kumar -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-12 4:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeffrey Hundstad Cc: Felipe Contreras, git, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, Justin P. Mattock, Uwe Kleine-König, Valeo de Vries, Linus Walleij, Matti Aarnio, mihai.dontu, dwmw2, richardcochran, Gadiyar, Anand On 8/11/2010 9:16 PM, Jeffrey Hundstad wrote: > Hello, > > Exchange 2010 does not handle IMAP "chunking" (partial message transfer) > correctly. Any request after about 1 megabyte of total message size > will fail. > > Thunderbird uses this "chunking" feature to give you a status update > while downloading large messages. The IMAP statements are of this type: > 11 UID fetch 244477 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY[]<20480.12288>) > > When the 20480 is larger than 1MB Exchange "claims" there is no more. > Sigh.... > > Fortunately you can disable this feature. To disable this in > Thunderbird you can go to the Advanced configuration and disable the > following feature, by setting it to false: > mail.server.default.fetch_by_chunks Jeffrey, I tried this but problem is still there. viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-12 4:41 ` viresh kumar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: viresh kumar @ 2010-08-12 4:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel On 8/11/2010 9:16 PM, Jeffrey Hundstad wrote: > Hello, > > Exchange 2010 does not handle IMAP "chunking" (partial message transfer) > correctly. Any request after about 1 megabyte of total message size > will fail. > > Thunderbird uses this "chunking" feature to give you a status update > while downloading large messages. The IMAP statements are of this type: > 11 UID fetch 244477 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY[]<20480.12288>) > > When the 20480 is larger than 1MB Exchange "claims" there is no more. > Sigh.... > > Fortunately you can disable this feature. To disable this in > Thunderbird you can go to the Advanced configuration and disable the > following feature, by setting it to false: > mail.server.default.fetch_by_chunks Jeffrey, I tried this but problem is still there. viresh. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. 2018-06-19 20:23 ` viresh kumar @ 2010-08-16 1:02 ` Gururaja Hebbar K R -1 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Gururaja Hebbar K R @ 2010-08-16 0:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-arm-kernel Hi, Hope this helps http://support.microsoft.com/?id=823921 Regards Gururaja > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-arm-kernel-bounces at lists.infradead.org > [mailto:linux-arm-kernel-bounces at lists.infradead.org] On > Behalf Of viresh kumar > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:08 PM > To: linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org; linux-kernel at vger.kernel.org > Subject: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. > > Hello, > > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have > Microsoft exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken > now while sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by > spaces and may be some other too which we haven't observed. > > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are > there any workarounds possible? > > viresh > ST Microelectronics. > > _______________________________________________ > linux-arm-kernel mailing list > linux-arm-kernel at lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
* RE: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. @ 2010-08-16 1:02 ` Gururaja Hebbar K R 0 siblings, 0 replies; 74+ messages in thread From: Gururaja Hebbar K R @ 2010-08-16 1:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: viresh kumar, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel Hi, Hope this helps http://support.microsoft.com/?id=823921 Regards Gururaja > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-arm-kernel-bounces@lists.infradead.org > [mailto:linux-arm-kernel-bounces@lists.infradead.org] On > Behalf Of viresh kumar > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:08 PM > To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server. > > Hello, > > Mail server in ST has recently changed and now we have > Microsoft exchange server. We are using thunderbird as mail client. > What we observed with this server is that patch are broken > now while sending as well as receiving. Tabs are replaced by > spaces and may be some other too which we haven't observed. > > Has anybody found a solution to this kind of issues? Are > there any workarounds possible? > > viresh > ST Microelectronics. > > _______________________________________________ > linux-arm-kernel mailing list > linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 74+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2018-06-19 20:43 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 74+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed) -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2010-08-09 6:07 Query: Patches break with Microsoft exchange server viresh kumar 2018-06-19 20:23 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-09 6:42 ` Justin P. Mattock 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-09 6:55 ` viresh kumar 2018-06-19 20:24 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-09 7:32 ` Justin P. Mattock 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-09 6:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König 2018-06-19 20:24 ` Uwe Kleine-König 2010-08-09 6:56 ` viresh kumar 2018-06-19 20:24 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-09 7:19 ` Valeo de Vries 2010-08-09 7:47 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-09 9:00 ` Valeo de Vries 2010-08-09 9:01 ` Matti Aarnio 2018-06-19 20:26 ` Matti Aarnio 2010-08-09 9:35 ` viresh kumar 2018-06-19 20:26 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-09 9:43 ` Justin P. Mattock 2018-06-19 20:26 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-09 14:35 ` Mihai Donțu 2010-08-09 14:35 ` Mihai Donțu 2010-08-09 17:55 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-09 17:55 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-09 18:15 ` Mihai Donțu 2010-08-09 18:15 ` Mihai Donțu 2010-08-09 18:53 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-09 18:53 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-09 21:28 ` David Woodhouse 2010-08-09 21:28 ` David Woodhouse 2010-08-09 21:56 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-09 21:56 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-09 22:12 ` Valeo de Vries 2010-08-09 22:24 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-11 14:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven 2010-08-11 14:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven 2010-08-10 9:22 ` Gadiyar, Anand 2010-08-10 9:22 ` Gadiyar, Anand 2010-08-10 9:26 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-10 9:26 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-09 10:02 ` David Woodhouse 2018-06-19 20:26 ` David Woodhouse 2018-06-19 20:42 ` Willy Tarreau 2018-06-19 20:42 ` Willy Tarreau 2010-08-09 14:19 ` Richard Cochran 2010-08-09 14:19 ` Richard Cochran 2010-08-09 14:34 ` Valeo de Vries 2010-08-10 22:04 ` Felipe Contreras 2010-08-10 22:04 ` Felipe Contreras 2010-08-10 22:04 ` Felipe Contreras 2010-08-11 7:01 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-11 7:01 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-11 10:11 ` Valeo de Vries 2010-08-11 10:53 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-11 11:38 ` Wouter Simons 2010-08-11 13:33 ` Justin P. Mattock 2010-08-11 15:46 ` Jeffrey Hundstad 2010-08-11 15:46 ` Jeffrey Hundstad 2010-08-11 15:46 ` Jeffrey Hundstad 2010-08-11 15:58 ` David Woodhouse 2010-08-11 15:58 ` David Woodhouse 2010-08-11 16:16 ` Jeffrey Hundstad 2010-08-11 16:16 ` Jeffrey Hundstad 2010-08-11 16:18 ` Avery Pennarun 2010-08-11 16:18 ` Avery Pennarun 2010-08-11 16:30 ` David Woodhouse 2010-08-11 16:30 ` David Woodhouse 2010-08-11 16:39 ` Avery Pennarun 2010-08-11 16:39 ` Avery Pennarun 2010-08-12 4:41 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-12 4:41 ` viresh kumar 2010-08-16 0:32 ` Gururaja Hebbar K R 2010-08-16 1:02 ` Gururaja Hebbar K R
This is an external index of several public inboxes, see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror all data and code used by this external index.