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From: Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:31:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C74FF25.3060200@fusionio.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100823140823.GA23490@lst.de>

On 2010-08-23 16:08, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 04:01:15PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> The problem purely exists on arrays that report write back cache enabled
>> AND don't implement SYNC_CACHE as a noop. Do any of them exist, or are
>> they purely urban legend?
> 
> I haven't seen it.  I don't care particularly about this case, but once
> it a while people want to disable flushing for testing or because they
> really don't care.
> 
> What about adding a sysfs attribue to every request_queue that allows
> disabling the cache flushing feature?  Compared to the barrier option
> this controls the feature at the right level and makes it available
> to everyone instead of beeing duplicated.  After a while we can then
> simply ignore the barrier/nobarrier options.

Agree, that would be fine.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-25 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-12 12:41 [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 01/11] block/loop: queue ordered mode should be DRAIN_FLUSH Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 02/11] block: kill QUEUE_ORDERED_BY_TAG Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-13 12:56   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-13 13:06     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 03/11] block: deprecate barrier and replace blk_queue_ordered() with blk_queue_flush() Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-14  1:07   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-14  1:07     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-14  9:42     ` hch
2010-08-16 20:38       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 04/11] block: remove spurious uses of REQ_HARDBARRIER Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 05/11] block: misc cleanups in barrier code Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 06/11] block: drop barrier ordering by queue draining Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 07/11] block: rename blk-barrier.c to blk-flush.c Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 08/11] block: rename barrier/ordered to flush Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 13:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-17 16:23     ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 17:08       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-18  6:23         ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 09/11] block: implement REQ_FLUSH/FUA based interface for FLUSH/FUA requests Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 10/11] fs, block: propagate REQ_FLUSH/FUA interface to upper layers Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 21:24   ` Jan Kara
2010-08-13  7:19     ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-13  7:47       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-16 16:33   ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH " Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` [PATCH 11/11] block: use REQ_FLUSH in blkdev_issue_flush() Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-12 12:41   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-13 11:48 ` [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-13 13:48   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-13 14:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-13 14:51       ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-14 10:36         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-17  9:59           ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 13:19             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-17 16:41               ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-17 16:59                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-18  6:35                   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-18  8:11                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-20  8:26                   ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-08-23 12:14                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-23 14:17                       ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-24 10:24                         ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-08-24 16:59                           ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-24 17:52                             ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-24 18:14                               ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-25  8:00                             ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-08-25 15:28                               ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-27  9:47                                 ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-08-27  9:47                                   ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-08-27 13:49                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-30  6:13                                     ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-09-01  0:55                                       ` safety of retrying SYNCHRONIZE CACHE [was: Re: [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush] Mike Snitzer
2010-09-01  7:32                                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-09-01  7:32                                           ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-09-01  7:38                                           ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-09-01  7:38                                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-12-08 21:14                                             ` [PATCH] scsi: improve description for deferred error Mike Snitzer
2010-12-28 21:45                                               ` Brett Russ
2010-08-25 15:59                               ` [RFC] training mpath to discern between SCSI errors (was: Re: [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush) Mike Snitzer
2010-08-25 19:15                                 ` [RFC] training mpath to discern between SCSI errors Mike Christie
2010-08-30 11:38                                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-30 12:07                                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-08-30 12:39                                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-30 12:51                                       ` Christophe Varoqui
2010-08-30 13:10                                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-30 14:52                                       ` [dm-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-30 14:52                                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-10-18  8:09                                         ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2010-10-18 11:55                                           ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-10-19  4:03                                             ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2010-11-19  3:11                                             ` [dm-devel] " Malahal Naineni
2010-11-30 22:59                                               ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-07 23:16                                                 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] differentiate between I/O errors Mike Snitzer
2010-12-07 23:16                                                   ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] scsi: Detailed " Mike Snitzer
2010-12-07 23:16                                                   ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] dm mpath: propagate target errors immediately Mike Snitzer
2010-12-07 23:16                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-07 23:16                                                   ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] block: improve detail in I/O error messages Mike Snitzer
2010-12-08 11:28                                                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-12-08 15:05                                                       ` [PATCH v2 " Mike Snitzer
2010-12-10 23:40                                                   ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] differentiate between I/O errors Malahal Naineni
2011-01-14  1:15                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-14  1:15                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-14  1:15                                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-14  1:15                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-14  1:15                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-17  9:47                                                 ` training mpath to discern between SCSI errors Hannes Reinecke
2010-12-17 14:06                                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-17 14:06                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-14  1:09                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-14  7:45                                                       ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-01-14 13:59                                                         ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-24 17:11                       ` [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 23:14                         ` Alan Cox
2010-08-24 23:14                           ` Alan Cox
2010-08-13 12:55 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-13 13:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-18 19:29     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-13 13:21   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-18 19:30     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-19  9:51       ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-30  9:54         ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-30 20:34           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18  9:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19  9:57   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-19 10:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 10:22       ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-20 13:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-20 15:18   ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-20 16:00     ` Chris Mason
2010-08-20 16:02       ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-20 16:02         ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-20 16:02         ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-20 16:02       ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-20 16:02       ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-20 16:02       ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 12:30     ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-23 12:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-23 13:58         ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 14:01           ` Jens Axboe
2010-08-23 14:08             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-23 14:13               ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-23 14:19                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 11:31               ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2010-08-30 10:04               ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-08-23 15:19             ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 16:45               ` Sergey Vlasov
2010-08-23 16:45                 ` [dm-devel] " Sergey Vlasov
2010-08-23 16:49                 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 16:49                 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 16:49                 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 16:49                   ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 16:49                 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-08-23 12:36   ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-23 14:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-23 14:15 ` [PATCH] block: simplify queue_next_fseq Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-23 16:28   ` OT grammar nit " John Robinson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-12 12:41 [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush Tejun Heo

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