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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 3/7] docs: Add QED image format specification
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:24:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CB32C33.4090208@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CB326EC.6060304@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

  On 10/11/2010 05:02 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 10/11/2010 08:44 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>  On 10/11/2010 03:42 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> >
>>> >  A leak is acceptable (it won't grow; it's just an unused, incorrect
>>> >  freelist), but data corruption is not.
>>>
>>> The alternative is for the freelist to be a non-compat feature bit.
>>> That means older QEMU binaries cannot use a QED image that has enabled
>>> the freelist.
>>
>> For this one feature.  What about others?
>
> A compat feature is one where the feature can be completely ignored 
> (meaning that the QEMU does not have to understand the data format).
>
> An example of a compat feature is copy-on-read.  It's merely a 
> suggestion and there is no additional metadata.  If a QEMU doesn't 
> understand it, it doesn't affect it's ability to read the image.
>
> An example of a non-compat feature would be zero cluster entries.  
> Zero cluster entries are a special L2 table entry that indicates that 
> a cluster's on-disk data is all zeros.  As long as there is at least 1 
> ZCE in the L2 tables, this feature bit must be set.  As soon as all of 
> the ZCE bits are cleared, the feature bit can be unset.
>
> An older QEMU will gracefully fail when presented with an image using 
> ZCE bits.  An image with no ZCEs will work on older QEMUs.
>

What's the motivation behind ZCE?

There is yet a third type of feature, one which is not strictly needed 
in order to use the image, but if used, must be kept synchronized.  An 
example is the freelist.  Another example is a directory index for a 
filesystem.  I can't think of another example which would be relevant to 
QED -- metadata checksums perhaps? -- we can always declare it a 
non-compatible feature, but of course, it reduces compatibility.



-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-11 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-08 15:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/7] qed: Add QEMU Enhanced Disk format Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/7] qcow2: Make get_bits_from_size() common Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-08 18:01   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/7] cutils: Add bytes_to_str() to format byte values Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 11:09   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-10-13  9:15   ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2010-10-13  9:28     ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-13 10:58       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-13 10:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/7] docs: Add QED image format specification Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-10  9:20   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 10:09     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 13:04       ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 13:42         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 13:44           ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 14:06             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 14:12               ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 15:02             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 15:24               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-10-11 15:41                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 15:47                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 14:54         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 14:58           ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 15:49             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 16:02               ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 16:10                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-12 10:25                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 13:58   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-11 15:30     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 15:39       ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 15:46         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 16:18           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 17:14             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-12  8:07               ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-12 13:16                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-12 13:32                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 15:50       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] qed: Add QEMU Enhanced Disk image format Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 15:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/7] qed: Table, L2 cache, and cluster functions Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-12 14:44   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-10-13 13:41     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/7] qed: Read/write support Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-10  9:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 10:37     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 13:10       ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 13:55         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 14:57         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-12 15:08   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-12 15:22     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-12 15:39       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-12 15:59         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-12 16:16           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-12 16:21             ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-13 12:13             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-13 13:07               ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-13 13:24                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-13 13:50                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-13 14:07                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-13 14:08                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-13 14:10                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-13 14:11                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-13 14:16                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-13 14:53                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-13 15:08                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-13 15:42                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-14 11:06                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-13 14:10                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/7] qed: Consistency check support Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] qed: Add QEMU Enhanced Disk format Kevin Wolf
2010-10-11 15:37   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-16  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi

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