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* [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] [NEW] "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
@ 2010-10-14  8:28 Ildar
  2010-10-14  9:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] " Stefan Hajnoczi
                   ` (8 more replies)
  0 siblings, 9 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Ildar @ 2010-10-14  8:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

Public bug reported:

$ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
$ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
$ du -h ?.img
4,1M	1.img
144K	2.img
4,3M	3.img

The conversion result is bigger then the source!

It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as expected).
I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from source image
and "backing" image.

Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in
backing_file.

** Affects: qemu
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

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Status in QEMU: New

Bug description:
$ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
$ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
$ du -h ?.img
4,1M	1.img
144K	2.img
4,3M	3.img

The conversion result is bigger then the source!

It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as expected). I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from source image and "backing" image.

Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in backing_file.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] [NEW] "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images Ildar
@ 2010-10-14  9:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
  2010-10-14  9:41 ` Ildar
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From: Stefan Hajnoczi @ 2010-10-14  9:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

It is possible to chain backing files.  As a workaround you could do the
following:

$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 2.img 4.img # from now on don't modify 2.img, instead use 4.img
$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 2.img 3.img # here is the 3.img you tried to create with qemu-convert

Images 1.img and 2.img should never be modified, they are immutable
snapshots.

Images 3.img and 4.img can be modified and will contain only changes
against 2.img.

Perhaps qemu-img needs a command to drop data that is duplicated in the
base image.  This could be a new flag to commit: qemu-img commit --dedup
3.img.

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Status in QEMU: New

Bug description:
$ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
$ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
$ du -h ?.img
4,1M	1.img
144K	2.img
4,3M	3.img

The conversion result is bigger then the source!

It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as expected). I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from source image and "backing" image.

Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in backing_file.

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* [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] [NEW] "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images Ildar
  2010-10-14  9:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] " Stefan Hajnoczi
@ 2010-10-14  9:41 ` Ildar
  2010-10-14 10:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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  8 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Ildar @ 2010-10-14  9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

Do you confirm this as a bug?

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Status in QEMU: New

Bug description:
$ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
$ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
$ du -h ?.img
4,1M	1.img
144K	2.img
4,3M	3.img

The conversion result is bigger then the source!

It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as expected). I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from source image and "backing" image.

Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in backing_file.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] [NEW] "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images Ildar
  2010-10-14  9:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] " Stefan Hajnoczi
  2010-10-14  9:41 ` Ildar
@ 2010-10-14 10:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
  2010-10-14 12:26 ` Anthony Liguori
                   ` (5 subsequent siblings)
  8 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Hajnoczi @ 2010-10-14 10:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

Sorry I'm not a frequent Launchpad user and will leave it up to someone
more familiar to decide which status to place it in.

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Status in QEMU: New

Bug description:
$ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
$ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
$ du -h ?.img
4,1M	1.img
144K	2.img
4,3M	3.img

The conversion result is bigger then the source!

It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as expected). I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from source image and "backing" image.

Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in backing_file.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] [NEW] "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images Ildar
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2010-10-14 10:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
@ 2010-10-14 12:26 ` Anthony Liguori
  2010-10-14 12:51   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
  2013-05-23  7:56 ` Ildar
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From: Anthony Liguori @ 2010-10-14 12:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

** Changed in: qemu
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

** Changed in: qemu
       Status: New => Confirmed

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Status in QEMU: Confirmed

Bug description:
$ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
4+0 records in
4+0 records out
4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
$ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
$ du -h ?.img
4,1M	1.img
144K	2.img
4,3M	3.img

The conversion result is bigger then the source!

It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as expected). I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from source image and "backing" image.

Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in backing_file.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14 12:26 ` Anthony Liguori
@ 2010-10-14 12:51   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
  2010-10-14 12:59     ` Anthony Liguori
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Hajnoczi @ 2010-10-14 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anthony Liguori; +Cc: Bug 660366, qemu-devel

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
> ** Changed in: qemu
>   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist
>
> ** Changed in: qemu
>       Status: New => Confirmed

Thanks for doing this Anthony.  Can I set the status myself next time
or do we have rules on who handles bugs?

Stefan

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14 12:51   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
@ 2010-10-14 12:59     ` Anthony Liguori
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Liguori @ 2010-10-14 12:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Hajnoczi; +Cc: Bug 660366, qemu-devel

On 10/14/2010 07:51 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>  wrote:
>    
>> ** Changed in: qemu
>>    Importance: Undecided =>  Wishlist
>>
>> ** Changed in: qemu
>>        Status: New =>  Confirmed
>>      
> Thanks for doing this Anthony.  Can I set the status myself next time
> or do we have rules on who handles bugs?
>    

I'm pretty sure anyone can do it.  If not, I'm certainly willing to give 
people extra rights on the project if they want to help with bug triage.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Stefan
>    

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* [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] [NEW] "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images Ildar
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2010-10-14 12:26 ` Anthony Liguori
@ 2013-05-23  7:56 ` Ildar
  2013-05-23  8:08 ` Ildar
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  8 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Ildar @ 2013-05-23  7:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

I guess the problem is solved already.
qemu-img version 1.4.0

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Title:
  "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images

Status in QEMU:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  $ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
  4+0 records in
  4+0 records out
  4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
  $ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
  Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
  $ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
  $ du -h ?.img
  4,1M	1.img
  144K	2.img
  4,3M	3.img

  The conversion result is bigger then the source!

  It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as
  expected). I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from
  source image and "backing" image.

  Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in
  backing_file.

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* [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] [NEW] "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images Ildar
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2013-05-23  7:56 ` Ildar
@ 2013-05-23  8:08 ` Ildar
  2015-08-10 12:37 ` sakishrist
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  8 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Ildar @ 2013-05-23  8:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

** Changed in: qemu
       Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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Title:
  "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images

Status in QEMU:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  $ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
  4+0 records in
  4+0 records out
  4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
  $ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
  Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
  $ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
  $ du -h ?.img
  4,1M	1.img
  144K	2.img
  4,3M	3.img

  The conversion result is bigger then the source!

  It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as
  expected). I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from
  source image and "backing" image.

  Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in
  backing_file.

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* [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] [NEW] "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images Ildar
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2013-05-23  8:08 ` Ildar
@ 2015-08-10 12:37 ` sakishrist
  2015-08-11  9:42 ` Kevin Wolf
  2015-08-11 10:08 ` sakishrist
  8 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: sakishrist @ 2015-08-10 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

Is this reintroduced? I am on version 2.3.0

$ dd if=/dev/urandom of=disk bs=1M count=1024

$ qemu-img convert -f raw -O qcow2 disk disk.qcow

$ qemu-img convert -f raw -O qcow2 -o backing_file=disk.qcow disk
disk1.qcow

$ ls -l
total 3146388
-rw-r--r-- 1 sakis sakis 1073741824 10 авг 15,29 disk
-rw-r--r-- 1 sakis sakis 1074135040 10 авг 15,30 disk.qcow
-rw-r--r-- 1 sakis sakis 1074135040 10 авг 15,31 disk1.qcow

All the data is copied again.

$ qemu-img info disk1.qcow
image: disk1.qcow
file format: qcow2
virtual size: 1.0G (1073741824 bytes)
disk size: 1.0G
cluster_size: 65536
*backing file: disk.qcow*
Format specific information:
    compat: 1.1
    lazy refcounts: false
    refcount bits: 16
    corrupt: false

Qemu-img works as expected though.

$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -o backing_file=disk1.qcow disk2.qcow

$ ls -l
total 3146584
-rw-r--r-- 1 sakis sakis 1073741824 10 авг 15,29 disk
-rw-r--r-- 1 sakis sakis 1074135040 10 авг 15,30 disk.qcow
-rw-r--r-- 1 sakis sakis 1074135040 10 авг 15,31 disk1.qcow
-rw-r--r-- 1 sakis sakis     197120 10 авг 15,33 disk2.qcow

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  "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images

Status in QEMU:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  $ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
  4+0 records in
  4+0 records out
  4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
  $ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
  Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
  $ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
  $ du -h ?.img
  4,1M	1.img
  144K	2.img
  4,3M	3.img

  The conversion result is bigger then the source!

  It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as
  expected). I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from
  source image and "backing" image.

  Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in
  backing_file.

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* [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] [NEW] "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images Ildar
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2015-08-10 12:37 ` sakishrist
@ 2015-08-11  9:42 ` Kevin Wolf
  2015-08-11 10:08 ` sakishrist
  8 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Wolf @ 2015-08-11  9:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

This is a different case. The original report used "qemu-img create" in
step 2, which results in a sparse image that refers to the backing file
for all data. Your sequence has "qemu-img convert" instead, which fully
populates disk.qcow. Therefore, in step 3, "qemu-img convert" leaves the
full allocation intact.

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  "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images

Status in QEMU:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  $ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
  4+0 records in
  4+0 records out
  4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
  $ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
  Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
  $ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
  $ du -h ?.img
  4,1M	1.img
  144K	2.img
  4,3M	3.img

  The conversion result is bigger then the source!

  It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as
  expected). I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from
  source image and "backing" image.

  Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in
  backing_file.

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* [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] Re: "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images
  2010-10-14  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [Bug 660366] [NEW] "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images Ildar
                   ` (7 preceding siblings ...)
  2015-08-11  9:42 ` Kevin Wolf
@ 2015-08-11 10:08 ` sakishrist
  8 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: sakishrist @ 2015-08-11 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

My mistake. It's different case than mine. Above sequence (original
report) works fine.

But I do not really understand why the same is not achieved in my case.
I use the convert instead of the create to get a full image in qcow
format. From that point, the desired behaviour is to create a qcow that
is based on the one created from the first convert and contain only the
changes. Why would the second convert populate the whole image again?

Thanks in advance.

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  "qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file" makes huge images

Status in QEMU:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  $ dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1M of=1.img count=4
  4+0 records in
  4+0 records out
  4194304 bytes (4,2 MB) copied, 1,0413 s, 4,0 MB/s
  $ qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b 1.img 2.img
  Formatting '2.img', fmt=qcow2 size=4194304 backing_file='1.img' encryption=off cluster_size=0 
  $ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 -o backing_file=1.img 2.img 3.img
  $ du -h ?.img
  4,1M	1.img
  144K	2.img
  4,3M	3.img

  The conversion result is bigger then the source!

  It appears that "-o backing_file" is not applied to data (as
  expected). I.e. all data is put into the resulting image: both from
  source image and "backing" image.

  Expected behavior is to put only data that is not present in
  backing_file.

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