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* [Qemu-devel] git rm Changelog?
@ 2011-01-24 23:06 Paolo Bonzini
  2011-01-25  9:57 ` Kevin Wolf
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2011-01-24 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel

... or at least "git mv Changelog Changelog.old"?

It only goes back to 0.12.0 so that there is hardly a place in the git 
repo to look for new features in 0.13 and 0.14.

Paolo

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] git rm Changelog?
  2011-01-24 23:06 [Qemu-devel] git rm Changelog? Paolo Bonzini
@ 2011-01-25  9:57 ` Kevin Wolf
  2011-01-25 11:19   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
  2011-01-25 14:35   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Wolf @ 2011-01-25  9:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paolo Bonzini; +Cc: qemu-devel

Am 25.01.2011 00:06, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
> ... or at least "git mv Changelog Changelog.old"?
> 
> It only goes back to 0.12.0 so that there is hardly a place in the git 
> repo to look for new features in 0.13 and 0.14.

Or maybe update it?

I find it rather unfriendly to our users to say "Here is a new release.
In the unlikely case that you really want to know what has changed,
please bother yourself to filter the interesting stuff out of these
thousand git commits".

Kevin

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* [Qemu-devel] Re: git rm Changelog?
  2011-01-25  9:57 ` Kevin Wolf
@ 2011-01-25 11:19   ` Paolo Bonzini
  2011-01-25 14:35   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2011-01-25 11:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kevin Wolf; +Cc: qemu-devel, Aurelien Jarno

On 01/25/2011 10:57 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 25.01.2011 00:06, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>> ... or at least "git mv Changelog Changelog.old"?
>>
>> It only goes back to 0.12.0 so that there is hardly a place in the git
>> repo to look for new features in 0.13 and 0.14.
>
> Or maybe update it?
>
> I find it rather unfriendly to our users to say "Here is a new release.
> In the unlikely case that you really want to know what has changed,
> please bother yourself to filter the interesting stuff out of these
> thousand git commits".

Who can help writing up some 0.13 and 0.14 changes for non-KVM stuff?

Paolo

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] git rm Changelog?
  2011-01-25  9:57 ` Kevin Wolf
  2011-01-25 11:19   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
@ 2011-01-25 14:35   ` Anthony Liguori
  2011-01-25 14:49     ` Kevin Wolf
  2011-01-26  0:52     ` Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Liguori @ 2011-01-25 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kevin Wolf; +Cc: Paolo Bonzini, qemu-devel

On 01/25/2011 03:57 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 25.01.2011 00:06, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>    
>> ... or at least "git mv Changelog Changelog.old"?
>>
>> It only goes back to 0.12.0 so that there is hardly a place in the git
>> repo to look for new features in 0.13 and 0.14.
>>      
> Or maybe update it?
>
> I find it rather unfriendly to our users to say "Here is a new release.
> In the unlikely case that you really want to know what has changed,
> please bother yourself to filter the interesting stuff out of these
> thousand git commits".
>    

Logistically, I prefer doing highlights in a mail verses having a 
committed file.  A Changelog file needs to be committed prior to tagging 
a release and cannot be enhanced after the fact.  The nice bit about an 
email is that folks can respond to it with additional details.

A wiki page (similar to what kernel newbies does) would be nice to 
supplement what's included in the release notes.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Kevin
>
>    

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] git rm Changelog?
  2011-01-25 14:35   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
@ 2011-01-25 14:49     ` Kevin Wolf
  2011-01-25 15:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
  2011-01-26  0:52     ` Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Wolf @ 2011-01-25 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anthony Liguori; +Cc: Paolo Bonzini, qemu-devel

Am 25.01.2011 15:35, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 01/25/2011 03:57 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> Am 25.01.2011 00:06, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>>    
>>> ... or at least "git mv Changelog Changelog.old"?
>>>
>>> It only goes back to 0.12.0 so that there is hardly a place in the git
>>> repo to look for new features in 0.13 and 0.14.
>>>      
>> Or maybe update it?
>>
>> I find it rather unfriendly to our users to say "Here is a new release.
>> In the unlikely case that you really want to know what has changed,
>> please bother yourself to filter the interesting stuff out of these
>> thousand git commits".
>>    
> 
> Logistically, I prefer doing highlights in a mail verses having a 
> committed file.  A Changelog file needs to be committed prior to tagging 
> a release and cannot be enhanced after the fact.  The nice bit about an 
> email is that folks can respond to it with additional details.
> 
> A wiki page (similar to what kernel newbies does) would be nice to 
> supplement what's included in the release notes.

We do have a wiki page "ChangeLog" and there are more than enough links
to it, it just hasn't been updated since 0.12.5.

I don't really care too much in which way we do it. But for 0.13 we
don't have any kind of a high-level changelog on qemu.org or in the
release tarball, and I think we should.

Kevin

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] git rm Changelog?
  2011-01-25 14:49     ` Kevin Wolf
@ 2011-01-25 15:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2011-01-25 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kevin Wolf; +Cc: qemu-devel

On 01/25/2011 03:49 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> We do have a wiki page "ChangeLog" and there are more than enough links
> to it, it just hasn't been updated since 0.12.5.

Yes, that was my rationale for removing it from the tree.

Paolo

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] git rm Changelog?
  2011-01-25 14:35   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
  2011-01-25 14:49     ` Kevin Wolf
@ 2011-01-26  0:52     ` Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho
  2011-01-26  2:05       ` Anthony Liguori
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho @ 2011-01-26  0:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anthony Liguori; +Cc: Kevin Wolf, Paolo Bonzini, qemu-devel

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>
> A wiki page (similar to what kernel newbies does) would be nice to
> supplement what's included in the release notes.
>

There you go: http://wiki.qemu.org/Changelog/0.14

This is a first draft and I will try to keep up, let's see what happens.

Regards,

Miguel

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] git rm Changelog?
  2011-01-26  0:52     ` Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho
@ 2011-01-26  2:05       ` Anthony Liguori
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Anthony Liguori @ 2011-01-26  2:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho; +Cc: Kevin Wolf, Paolo Bonzini, qemu-devel

On 01/25/2011 06:52 PM, Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>  wrote:
>    
>> A wiki page (similar to what kernel newbies does) would be nice to
>> supplement what's included in the release notes.
>>
>>      
> There you go: http://wiki.qemu.org/Changelog/0.14
>
> This is a first draft and I will try to keep up, let's see what happens.
>    

Cool!  Thanks!  I'll make sure to reference it in the release announcement.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Regards,
>
> Miguel
>
>    

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2011-01-25 14:35   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
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