From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> Cc: Nico Erfurth <ne@erfurth.eu>, Eric Cooper <ecc@cmu.edu>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] ARM: Unify setup for Marvell SheevaPlugs and Seagate DockStars Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 05:38:54 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <4D9E834E.2030705@ahsoftware.de> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20110407173912.GA17049@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> Am 07.04.2011 19:39, schrieb Russell King - ARM Linux: > We have an established API and convention in the kernel which you claim > is "from outerspace". It's not "from outerspace" but a designed API to > allow platforms to live together in the same kernel image. So I find > your arguments totally unreasonable. I've claimed that the specific machine ID is from outerspace not the API. This one (ID) got invented just because of a different usage of two GPIOs (and not even by the manufacturerer). And I still think using the (fixed) memory size here is totally reasonable. There is nothing else to differentiate these HWs, it's extremely unlikely that this difference will get proved wrong, and if that would really happen, than one could still add some code to fix this specific problem. _Always_ dealing with "what happens when" is (imho) fruitless and no solution or API can deal with everything. > I fully support Nicolas in rejecting your patches outright on this point > alone. Which I fully understand. And I wouldn't have started to defend me, if that would have happened in a more civil language. But because I don't want to get involved in more discussions with people who are missing the needed manners (at least how I learned them) to talk with other people without offending them (not you), I better try to stay away posting patches. Maybe I'm getting too old and lacking the needed enthusiasm needed to discuss such stuff (and with everyone who thinks he must enter this discussion too, again, not you). ;) I wish you all a nice day, Alexander
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From: holler@ahsoftware.de (Alexander Holler) To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: [PATCH 0/2] ARM: Unify setup for Marvell SheevaPlugs and Seagate DockStars Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 05:38:54 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <4D9E834E.2030705@ahsoftware.de> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20110407173912.GA17049@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> Am 07.04.2011 19:39, schrieb Russell King - ARM Linux: > We have an established API and convention in the kernel which you claim > is "from outerspace". It's not "from outerspace" but a designed API to > allow platforms to live together in the same kernel image. So I find > your arguments totally unreasonable. I've claimed that the specific machine ID is from outerspace not the API. This one (ID) got invented just because of a different usage of two GPIOs (and not even by the manufacturerer). And I still think using the (fixed) memory size here is totally reasonable. There is nothing else to differentiate these HWs, it's extremely unlikely that this difference will get proved wrong, and if that would really happen, than one could still add some code to fix this specific problem. _Always_ dealing with "what happens when" is (imho) fruitless and no solution or API can deal with everything. > I fully support Nicolas in rejecting your patches outright on this point > alone. Which I fully understand. And I wouldn't have started to defend me, if that would have happened in a more civil language. But because I don't want to get involved in more discussions with people who are missing the needed manners (at least how I learned them) to talk with other people without offending them (not you), I better try to stay away posting patches. Maybe I'm getting too old and lacking the needed enthusiasm needed to discuss such stuff (and with everyone who thinks he must enter this discussion too, again, not you). ;) I wish you all a nice day, Alexander
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-08 3:39 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2011-04-06 20:35 [PATCH 0/2] ARM: Unify setup for Marvell SheevaPlugs and Seagate DockStars Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 20:35 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 20:35 ` [PATCH 1/2] ARM: Differentiate SheevaPlugs and DockStars on the basis of the memory size Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 20:35 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 21:44 ` Nicolas Pitre 2011-04-06 21:44 ` Nicolas Pitre 2011-04-06 22:45 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 22:45 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 23:01 ` Nicolas Pitre 2011-04-06 23:01 ` Nicolas Pitre 2011-04-06 23:22 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 23:22 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-07 2:55 ` Nicolas Pitre 2011-04-07 2:55 ` Nicolas Pitre 2011-04-07 8:55 ` Alexander Clouter 2011-04-07 21:31 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-07 21:31 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-07 21:44 ` Alexander Clouter 2011-04-07 21:44 ` Alexander Clouter 2011-04-07 21:59 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-07 21:59 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-07 22:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-04-07 22:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-04-07 23:04 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-07 23:04 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-08 7:24 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-04-08 7:24 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-04-08 8:38 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-08 8:38 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-09 8:29 ` Bernd Petrovitsch 2011-04-09 8:29 ` Bernd Petrovitsch 2011-04-10 18:14 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-10 18:14 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-10 19:29 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-10 19:29 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 23:23 ` Eric Cooper 2011-04-06 23:23 ` Eric Cooper 2011-04-06 20:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: Remove machine type dockstar (use sheevaplug instead) Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 20:35 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 21:02 ` Nicolas Pitre 2011-04-06 21:02 ` Nicolas Pitre 2011-04-06 21:43 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 21:43 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-06 22:50 ` [PATCH 0/2] ARM: Unify setup for Marvell SheevaPlugs and Seagate DockStars Nico Erfurth 2011-04-06 22:50 ` Nico Erfurth 2011-04-07 9:20 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-07 9:20 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-07 9:37 ` Nico Erfurth 2011-04-07 9:37 ` Nico Erfurth 2011-04-07 9:44 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-07 9:44 ` Alexander Holler 2011-04-07 17:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-04-07 17:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-04-08 3:38 ` Alexander Holler [this message] 2011-04-08 3:38 ` Alexander Holler
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