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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	john@jfloren.net, kvm@vger.kernel.org, asias.hejun@gmail.com,
	gorcunov@gmail.com, prasadjoshi124@gmail.com,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 21:12:00 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DE13AF0.2080001@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110527110729.GA26920@elte.hu>

On 05/27/2011 02:07 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Ingo Molnar<mingo@elte.hu>  wrote:
>
> >  >  This code is very much tied with the kernel scheduler. [...]
> >
> >  It would not be particularly complex to enable user-space to
> >  request a callback on context switch events.
> >
> >  I was thinking on and off about allowing perf events to generate a
> >  per sampling event notification signal on specific events, such as
> >  page faults or context switches.
>
> I was thinking about that on and off so loudly that Peter implemented
> it long ago via fasync support on the perf event fd! :-)
>
> So if you set a notification signal via fcntl(F_SETOWN) on the
> scheduler context switch event fd, the user-space RCU code will get a
> signal on every context switch.
>

Context switches are completely uninteresting for userspace rcu:

   rcu_read_lock();
   ---> context switch

have we learned anything from that?  no.  User code is always 
preemptible and migratable.  If rcu_read_lock() prevented migration 
somehow, then we'd know that a context switch means we've started a 
grace period for this thread.  But it doesn't, so we don't.

What's needed are explicit notifications about grace periods.  For the 
vcpu threads, calling KVM_VCPU_RUN seems like a good point.  For I/O 
threads, completion of processing of an event is also a good point.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-28 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-26 14:25 [PATCH 1/6] kvm tools: Prevent double assignment of guest memory info Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 2/6] kvm tools: Exit VCPU thread only when SIGKVMEXIT is received Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 3/6] kvm tools: Protect IRQ allocations by a mutex Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 16:02   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 16:19     ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 18:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 18:11         ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-26 18:21           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 18:57             ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 23:09               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 10:19                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 10:36                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 15:52                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 17:10                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 20:19                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-28 15:24                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-28 16:44                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-28 19:45                             ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-29  6:47                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29  7:19                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 15:31                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 15:51                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 19:54                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30  3:12                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 16:22                                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-27 13:14                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-29 17:01                     ` RCU red-black tree (was: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper) Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-29 17:48                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30  2:54                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30  6:07                           ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 11:30                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:38                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:50                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 17:52                               ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-30 18:57                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30 19:11                                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 13:05                                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 13:09                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 13:20                                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-05-31 15:25                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 19:09                                           ` Prasad Joshi
2011-05-31 19:31                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-02 14:55                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-30  3:38                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-30 11:18                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-26 20:25             ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm tools: Add rwlock wrapper Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 23:05               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27  0:58                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-27  9:12                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 12:48                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:19                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 13:29                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:36                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 17:22                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-27 10:25                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:07                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:10                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 11:24                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 14:18                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 14:11                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-28 18:12                     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-05-28 18:32                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29  6:41                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29  7:35                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29  7:54                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 12:37                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 12:48                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 14:27                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-29 15:00                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-29 15:38                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-29 19:33                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-30  3:07                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-30  8:12                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-27 13:22                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-05-27 13:31                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-28 18:14                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-27 13:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 5/6] kvm tools: Protect MMIO tree by rwsem Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 14:25 ` [PATCH 6/6] kvm tools: Protect IOPORT " Sasha Levin
2011-05-26 16:01   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-26 16:19     ` Sasha Levin

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