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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Amerigo Wang <amwang@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm: completely disable THP by transparent_hugepage=never
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:55:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DFF7B99.2060909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110620165035.GE20843@redhat.com>

On 06/20/2011 12:50 PM, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:34:28AM +0800, Amerigo Wang wrote:
>> transparent_hugepage=never should mean to disable THP completely,
>> otherwise we don't have a way to disable THP completely.
>> The design is broken.
>
> We want to allow people to boot with transparent_hugepage=never but to
> still allow people to enable it later at runtime. Not sure why you
> find it broken... Your patch is just crippling down the feature with
> no gain. There is absolutely no gain to disallow root to enable THP
> later at runtime with sysfs, root can enable it anyway by writing into
> /dev/mem.
>
> Unless you're root and you enable it, it's completely disabled, so I
> don't see what you mean it's not completely disabled. Not even
> khugepaged is started, try to grep of khugepaged...

Agreed, I don't really see the reason for these patches.

Amerigo?

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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Amerigo Wang <amwang@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm: completely disable THP by transparent_hugepage=never
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:55:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DFF7B99.2060909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110620165035.GE20843@redhat.com>

On 06/20/2011 12:50 PM, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:34:28AM +0800, Amerigo Wang wrote:
>> transparent_hugepage=never should mean to disable THP completely,
>> otherwise we don't have a way to disable THP completely.
>> The design is broken.
>
> We want to allow people to boot with transparent_hugepage=never but to
> still allow people to enable it later at runtime. Not sure why you
> find it broken... Your patch is just crippling down the feature with
> no gain. There is absolutely no gain to disallow root to enable THP
> later at runtime with sysfs, root can enable it anyway by writing into
> /dev/mem.
>
> Unless you're root and you enable it, it's completely disabled, so I
> don't see what you mean it's not completely disabled. Not even
> khugepaged is started, try to grep of khugepaged...

Agreed, I don't really see the reason for these patches.

Amerigo?

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-20 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-20 16:34 [PATCH 1/3] mm: completely disable THP by transparent_hugepage=never Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:34 ` Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: make the threshold of enabling THP configurable Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:34   ` Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:59   ` Dave Hansen
2011-06-20 16:59     ` Dave Hansen
2011-06-20 17:23     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:23       ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 16:59   ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 16:59     ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 17:16     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:16       ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21  9:36       ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-21  9:36         ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-22  2:41         ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22  2:41           ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22  9:16           ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-22  9:16             ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-22 10:46             ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 10:46               ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 11:15               ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-22 11:15                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-22 12:34                 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 12:34                   ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 16:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: print information when THP is disabled automatically Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:34   ` Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:54   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 16:54     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 17:25     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:25       ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:01   ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 17:01     ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 17:26     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:26       ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 19:37       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 19:37         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21  9:40       ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-21  9:40         ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 16:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: completely disable THP by transparent_hugepage=never Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 16:50   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 16:55   ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2011-06-20 16:55     ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:01   ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:01     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 19:43     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 19:43       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21  3:15       ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21  3:15         ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 16:58 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 16:58   ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 17:07   ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:07     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:10     ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:10       ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:19       ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:19         ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:28         ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:28           ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:34           ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:34             ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:50             ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:50               ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 18:25               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-20 18:25                 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-20 19:21                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 19:21                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21  4:08                   ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21  4:08                     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21 14:43                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21 14:43                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-22  2:56                       ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22  2:56                         ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 14:22                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-22 14:22                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21 20:01                     ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-21 20:01                       ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-21  3:28               ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21  3:28                 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:58             ` Eric B Munson
2011-06-21  3:36               ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21  3:36                 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:59           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-20 17:59             ` Vivek Goyal

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