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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86, mm: start mmap allocation for libs from low addresses
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:24:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E5290D6.5050406@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110822101730.GA3346@albatros>

On 08/22/2011 03:17 AM, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> Hi Ingo, Peter, Thomas,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 13:05 +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
>> As the changes are not intrusive, we'd want to see this feature in the
>> upstream kernel.  If you know why the patch cannot be a part of the
>> upstream kernel - please tell me, I'll try to address the issues.
> 
> Any comments on the RFC?  Otherwise, may I resend it as a PATCH for
> inclusion?
> 
> Thanks!

Conceptually:

I also have to admit to being somewhat skeptical to the concept on a
littleendian architecture like x86.

Code-wise:

The code is horrific; it is full of open-coded magic numbers; it also
puts a function called arch_get_unmapped_exec_area() in a generic file,
which could best be described as "WTF" -- the arch_ prefix we use
specifically to denote a per-architecture hook function.

As such, your claim that the changes are not intrusive is plain false.

	-hpa

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86, mm: start mmap allocation for libs from low addresses
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:24:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E5290D6.5050406@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110822101730.GA3346@albatros>

On 08/22/2011 03:17 AM, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> Hi Ingo, Peter, Thomas,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 13:05 +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
>> As the changes are not intrusive, we'd want to see this feature in the
>> upstream kernel.  If you know why the patch cannot be a part of the
>> upstream kernel - please tell me, I'll try to address the issues.
> 
> Any comments on the RFC?  Otherwise, may I resend it as a PATCH for
> inclusion?
> 
> Thanks!

Conceptually:

I also have to admit to being somewhat skeptical to the concept on a
littleendian architecture like x86.

Code-wise:

The code is horrific; it is full of open-coded magic numbers; it also
puts a function called arch_get_unmapped_exec_area() in a generic file,
which could best be described as "WTF" -- the arch_ prefix we use
specifically to denote a per-architecture hook function.

As such, your claim that the changes are not intrusive is plain false.

	-hpa

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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC] x86, mm: start mmap allocation for libs from low addresses
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:24:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E5290D6.5050406@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110822101730.GA3346@albatros>

On 08/22/2011 03:17 AM, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> Hi Ingo, Peter, Thomas,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 13:05 +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
>> As the changes are not intrusive, we'd want to see this feature in the
>> upstream kernel.  If you know why the patch cannot be a part of the
>> upstream kernel - please tell me, I'll try to address the issues.
> 
> Any comments on the RFC?  Otherwise, may I resend it as a PATCH for
> inclusion?
> 
> Thanks!

Conceptually:

I also have to admit to being somewhat skeptical to the concept on a
littleendian architecture like x86.

Code-wise:

The code is horrific; it is full of open-coded magic numbers; it also
puts a function called arch_get_unmapped_exec_area() in a generic file,
which could best be described as "WTF" -- the arch_ prefix we use
specifically to denote a per-architecture hook function.

As such, your claim that the changes are not intrusive is plain false.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-22 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-12 10:29 [RFC] x86, mm: start mmap allocation for libs from low addresses Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-12 10:29 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-12 10:29 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-12 10:58 ` [kernel-hardening] " Solar Designer
2011-08-12 11:05   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-25 17:19   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-25 17:39     ` Solar Designer
2011-09-02 18:29     ` Solar Designer
2011-09-03 11:18       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-03 23:57         ` Solar Designer
2011-09-05 12:46           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06  5:05             ` Solar Designer
2011-09-07  9:09               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-07  9:30                 ` Solar Designer
2011-09-07  9:34                   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-07  9:43                     ` Solar Designer
2011-09-07  9:55                       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-07 10:16                         ` Solar Designer
2011-09-07 11:01                           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-02 23:34     ` Solar Designer
2011-09-03 12:12       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-03 23:40         ` Solar Designer
2011-09-04  7:21         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-12 23:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-12 23:19   ` [kernel-hardening] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-12 23:19   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-13  6:26   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-13  6:26     ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-13  6:26     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-16  9:05   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-16  9:05     ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-16  9:05     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-22 10:17     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-22 10:17       ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-22 10:17       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-22 17:24       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2011-08-22 17:24         ` [kernel-hardening] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 17:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 20:14         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-22 20:14           ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-22 20:14           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-22 20:17           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 20:17             ` [kernel-hardening] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 20:17             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23  6:41             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-23  6:41               ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-23  6:41               ` Vasiliy Kulikov

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