From: Arun Sharma <asharma@fb.com>
To: Andrea Righi <andrea@betterlinux.com>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Minchan Kim" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"Johannes Weiner" <jweiner@redhat.com>,
"KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki" <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"KOSAKI Motohiro" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com>,
"Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Shaohua Li" <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
"Pádraig Brady" <P@draigBrady.com>,
"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
"Jerry James" <jamesjer@betterlinux.com>,
"Julius Plenz" <julius@plenz.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/3] fadvise: implement POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:07:37 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F3D53F9.8040508@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120216185753.GD13354@thinkpad>
On 2/16/12 10:57 AM, Andrea Righi wrote:
> Maybe we should try to push ...something... in the memcg code for the
> short-term future, make it as much generic as possible, and for the
> long-term try to reuse the same feature (totally or in part) in the
> per-fd approach via fadvise().
Yes - the two approaches are complementary and we should probably pursue
both.
There are a number of apps which are already using fadvise though:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-3289
http://highscalability.com/blog/2012/1/12/peregrine-a-map-reduce-framework-for-iterative-and-pipelined.html
and probably many other similar cases that are not open source.
Some of these apps may be better off using NOREUSE instead of DONTNEED,
since they may not have a clue on what else is going on in the system.
The way I think about it: NOREUSE is a statement about what my process
is doing and DONTNEED is a statement about the entire system.
-Arun
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From: Arun Sharma <asharma@fb.com>
To: Andrea Righi <andrea@betterlinux.com>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Minchan Kim" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"Johannes Weiner" <jweiner@redhat.com>,
"KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki" <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"KOSAKI Motohiro" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com>,
"Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Shaohua Li" <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
"Pádraig Brady" <P@draigBrady.com>,
"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
"Jerry James" <jamesjer@betterlinux.com>,
"Julius Plenz" <julius@plenz.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/3] fadvise: implement POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:07:37 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F3D53F9.8040508@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120216185753.GD13354@thinkpad>
On 2/16/12 10:57 AM, Andrea Righi wrote:
> Maybe we should try to push ...something... in the memcg code for the
> short-term future, make it as much generic as possible, and for the
> long-term try to reuse the same feature (totally or in part) in the
> per-fd approach via fadvise().
Yes - the two approaches are complementary and we should probably pursue
both.
There are a number of apps which are already using fadvise though:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-3289
http://highscalability.com/blog/2012/1/12/peregrine-a-map-reduce-framework-for-iterative-and-pipelined.html
and probably many other similar cases that are not open source.
Some of these apps may be better off using NOREUSE instead of DONTNEED,
since they may not have a clue on what else is going on in the system.
The way I think about it: NOREUSE is a statement about what my process
is doing and DONTNEED is a statement about the entire system.
-Arun
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-16 19:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-12 0:21 [RFC] [PATCH v5 0/3] fadvise: support POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE Andrea Righi
2012-02-12 0:21 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-12 0:21 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] kinterval: routines to manipulate generic intervals Andrea Righi
2012-02-12 0:21 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-13 0:48 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-13 0:48 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-12 0:21 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] mm: filemap: introduce mark_page_usedonce Andrea Righi
2012-02-12 0:21 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-12 0:21 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] fadvise: implement POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE Andrea Righi
2012-02-12 0:21 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-13 16:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-02-13 16:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-02-13 18:00 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-13 18:00 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-13 18:00 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-13 16:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-02-13 16:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-02-15 23:35 ` Arun Sharma
2012-02-15 23:35 ` Arun Sharma
2012-02-15 23:47 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-15 23:47 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-15 23:57 ` Arun Sharma
2012-02-15 23:57 ` Arun Sharma
2012-02-15 23:57 ` Arun Sharma
2012-02-16 0:56 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-16 0:56 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-16 0:56 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-16 2:10 ` Arun Sharma
2012-02-16 2:10 ` Arun Sharma
2012-02-16 10:39 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-16 10:39 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-16 18:43 ` Arun Sharma
2012-02-16 18:43 ` Arun Sharma
2012-02-16 18:57 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-16 18:57 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-16 19:07 ` Arun Sharma [this message]
2012-02-16 19:07 ` Arun Sharma
2012-02-27 2:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-27 2:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-27 10:46 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-27 10:46 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-12 7:16 ` [RFC] [PATCH v5 0/3] fadvise: support POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE Hillf Danton
2012-02-12 11:58 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-12 17:54 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2012-02-13 1:13 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-14 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2012-02-14 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2012-02-14 22:06 ` John Stultz
2012-02-14 22:06 ` John Stultz
2012-02-14 22:59 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-14 22:59 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-14 23:22 ` Andrew Morton
2012-02-14 23:22 ` Andrew Morton
2012-02-15 1:35 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-15 1:35 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-15 23:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-15 23:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-16 0:43 ` Andrea Righi
2012-02-16 0:43 ` Andrea Righi
2014-01-02 21:25 ` Phillip Susi
2014-01-02 21:25 ` Phillip Susi
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