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From: Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad@wizery.com>,
	Peter Crosthwaite <peter.crosthwaite@petalogix.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 7/8] ARM: vmlinux.lds: Setup physical load address not virtual
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:23:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FDF804A.5080404@monstr.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1206181433130.23555@xanadu.home>

On 06/18/2012 09:02 PM, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Michal Simek wrote:
>
>> 2012/6/18 Nicolas Pitre<nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
>>
>>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Michal Simek wrote:
>>>
>>>> Setup correct virtual and physical address in ELF LOAD section.
>>>
>>> We are moving to a single kernel binary for multiple targets, including
>>> targets with different physical load addresses.  The kernel code figures
>>> out at run time what the actual physical address is when
>>> CONFIG_ARM_PATCH_PHYS_VIRT is set which is the default these days.  In
>>> other words, we don't know the physical offset at build time in that
>>> case and CONFIG_PHYS_OFFSET is simply not defined.
>>>
>>
>> ok. good to know and nice features. In that case I expect that you are
>> using any binary format and you copy it to memory and run it. Code
>> find out where it runs and based on that setup things.
>
> Exact.

ok. One more question about this feature. What is the alignment for it?
I mean I have done the similar feature for Xilinx ppc440 and alignment depends on
MMU TLB size.

>
>> (BTW: This is very interesting for me to implement it on Microblaze. Can
>> you point me to that kernel code part? or any doc?)
>
> You could have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ARMSingleKernel,
> especially the section "Optimized virt_to_phys() with a runtime
> determined PHYS_OFFSET".
>
> Then the following commits should be of interest:
>
> 72a20e22f4 "ARM: P2V: eliminate head.S use of PHYS_OFFSET for !XIP_KERNEL"
>
> dc21af99fa "ARM: P2V: introduce phys_to_virt/virt_to_phys runtime patching"

ok. Thanks will look at it.

>
>> But can you do it with elf?
>
> No.

ok

>
>> Please correct me if I am wrong IRC ARM Qemu uses zImage but it is no
>> problem to use elf file. For this case
>> Qemu elf loader also uses physical addresses from ELF and also entry point.
>
> If you want to use the ELF image, then you need to hardcode the physical
> memory location in its header, and that's something we want to get away
> from because it prevents a single kernel binary image from being used on
> different targets with different memory layouts.  Same issue with
> u-Boot's legacy uImage format.

And are you able to get these information away from ELF? Or you just need to set it up
to any default value. I would expect to 0x0.


>
>> I haven't played with CONFIG_ARM_PATCH_PHYS_VIRT option but what is elf
>> entry point for this case?
>
> For the kernel image itself it is the kernel virtual address.

Is it used somewhere? Or is it just setup to virtual address and no code use it?
I mean that kernel virtual entry point.

I expect that if CONFIG_ARM_PATCH_PHYS_VIRT=y then CONFIG_PHYS_OFFSET is not setup
Then LOAD_OFFSET should be equal to CONFIG_PAGE_OFFSET.

>
> For the relocatable zImage decompressor wrapper it is 0.

ok.

Thanks,
Michal


-- 
Michal Simek, Ing. (M.Eng)
w: www.monstr.eu p: +42-0-721842854
Maintainer of Linux kernel 2.6 Microblaze Linux - http://www.monstr.eu/fdt/
Microblaze U-BOOT custodian

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From: monstr@monstr.eu (Michal Simek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 7/8] ARM: vmlinux.lds: Setup physical load address not virtual
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:23:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FDF804A.5080404@monstr.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1206181433130.23555@xanadu.home>

On 06/18/2012 09:02 PM, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Michal Simek wrote:
>
>> 2012/6/18 Nicolas Pitre<nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
>>
>>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Michal Simek wrote:
>>>
>>>> Setup correct virtual and physical address in ELF LOAD section.
>>>
>>> We are moving to a single kernel binary for multiple targets, including
>>> targets with different physical load addresses.  The kernel code figures
>>> out at run time what the actual physical address is when
>>> CONFIG_ARM_PATCH_PHYS_VIRT is set which is the default these days.  In
>>> other words, we don't know the physical offset at build time in that
>>> case and CONFIG_PHYS_OFFSET is simply not defined.
>>>
>>
>> ok. good to know and nice features. In that case I expect that you are
>> using any binary format and you copy it to memory and run it. Code
>> find out where it runs and based on that setup things.
>
> Exact.

ok. One more question about this feature. What is the alignment for it?
I mean I have done the similar feature for Xilinx ppc440 and alignment depends on
MMU TLB size.

>
>> (BTW: This is very interesting for me to implement it on Microblaze. Can
>> you point me to that kernel code part? or any doc?)
>
> You could have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ARMSingleKernel,
> especially the section "Optimized virt_to_phys() with a runtime
> determined PHYS_OFFSET".
>
> Then the following commits should be of interest:
>
> 72a20e22f4 "ARM: P2V: eliminate head.S use of PHYS_OFFSET for !XIP_KERNEL"
>
> dc21af99fa "ARM: P2V: introduce phys_to_virt/virt_to_phys runtime patching"

ok. Thanks will look at it.

>
>> But can you do it with elf?
>
> No.

ok

>
>> Please correct me if I am wrong IRC ARM Qemu uses zImage but it is no
>> problem to use elf file. For this case
>> Qemu elf loader also uses physical addresses from ELF and also entry point.
>
> If you want to use the ELF image, then you need to hardcode the physical
> memory location in its header, and that's something we want to get away
> from because it prevents a single kernel binary image from being used on
> different targets with different memory layouts.  Same issue with
> u-Boot's legacy uImage format.

And are you able to get these information away from ELF? Or you just need to set it up
to any default value. I would expect to 0x0.


>
>> I haven't played with CONFIG_ARM_PATCH_PHYS_VIRT option but what is elf
>> entry point for this case?
>
> For the kernel image itself it is the kernel virtual address.

Is it used somewhere? Or is it just setup to virtual address and no code use it?
I mean that kernel virtual entry point.

I expect that if CONFIG_ARM_PATCH_PHYS_VIRT=y then CONFIG_PHYS_OFFSET is not setup
Then LOAD_OFFSET should be equal to CONFIG_PAGE_OFFSET.

>
> For the relocatable zImage decompressor wrapper it is 0.

ok.

Thanks,
Michal


-- 
Michal Simek, Ing. (M.Eng)
w: www.monstr.eu p: +42-0-721842854
Maintainer of Linux kernel 2.6 Microblaze Linux - http://www.monstr.eu/fdt/
Microblaze U-BOOT custodian

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-18 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-18 11:30 ARM SMP/GIC/LDS patches for Xilinx Zynq remoteproc Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30 ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] ARM: gic: Support forcing cpumask for possible cpus in the system Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30   ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:33   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-18 11:33     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-18 11:41     ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:41       ` Michal Simek
2012-06-20  6:48       ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] ARM: gic: Export gic_raise_softirq function for kernel modules Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30   ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] ARM: gic: Introduce new gic_set_cpu Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30   ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] ARM: smp: Move cpu initialization directly to ipi_cpu_stop Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30   ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:34   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-18 11:34     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-18 11:53     ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:53       ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] AMP: smp: Extend number of IPIs Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30   ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:35   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-18 11:35     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-18 11:54     ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:54       ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] ARM: smp: Use generic API for ipi Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30   ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:36   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-18 11:36     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-18 11:54     ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:54       ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] ARM: vmlinux.lds: Setup physical load address not virtual Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30   ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 14:06   ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-18 14:06     ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-18 18:15     ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 19:02       ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-18 19:02         ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-18 19:23         ` Michal Simek [this message]
2012-06-18 19:23           ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 21:10           ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-18 21:10             ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-06-19  4:16             ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] ARM: vmlinux.lds: Setup correct entry point to physical address Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:30   ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:37   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-18 11:37     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-18 11:45     ` Michal Simek
2012-06-18 11:45       ` Michal Simek

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