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From: "Arınç ÜNAL" <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
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	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Sergio Paracuellos <sergio.paracuellos@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Move MT7530 phy muxing from DSA to PHY driver
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:28:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a291389-105a-6288-1347-4f02171b0dd0@arinc9.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YyXiswbZfDh8aZHN@lunn.ch>

On 17.09.2022 18:07, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> Where in the address range is the mux register? Officially, PHY
>>> drivers only have access to PHY registers, via MDIO. If the mux
>>> register is in the switch address space, it would be better if the
>>> switch did the mux configuration. An alternative might be to represent
>>> the mux in DT somewhere, and have a mux driver.
>>
>> I don't know this part very well but it's in the register for hw trap
>> modification which, I think, is in the switch address space.
>>
>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/tree/drivers/net/dsa/mt7530.c?id=1f9a6abecf538cc73635f6082677a2f4dc9c89a4#n941
>>
>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/tree/drivers/net/dsa/mt7530.h?id=1f9a6abecf538cc73635f6082677a2f4dc9c89a4#n500
>>
>> Like you said, I don't think we can move away from the DSA driver, and would
>> rather keep the driver do the mux configuration.
>>
>> We could change the check for phy muxing to define the phy muxing bindings
>> in the DSA node instead. If I understand correctly, the mdio address for
>> PHYs is fake, it's for the sole purpose of making the driver check if
>> there's request for phy muxing and which phy to mux. I'm saying this because
>> the MT7530 switch works fine at address 0 while also using phy0 as a slave
>> interface.
>>
>> A property could be introduced on the DSA node for the MT7530 DSA driver:
>>
>>      mdio {
>>          #address-cells = <1>;
>>          #size-cells = <0>;
>>
>>          switch@0 {
>>              compatible = "mediatek,mt7530";
>>              reg = <0>;
>>
>>              reset-gpios = <&pio 33 0>;
>>
>>              core-supply = <&mt6323_vpa_reg>;
>>              io-supply = <&mt6323_vemc3v3_reg>;
>>
>>              mt7530,mux-phy = <&sw0_p0>;
>>
>>              ethernet-ports {
>>                  #address-cells = <1>;
>>                  #size-cells = <0>;
>>
>>                  sw0_p0: port@0 {
>>                      reg = <0>;
>>                  };
>>              };
>>          };
>>      };
>>
>> This would also allow using the phy muxing feature with any ethernet mac.
>> Currently, phy muxing check wants the ethernet mac to be gmac1 of a MediaTek
>> SoC. However, on a standalone MT7530, the switch can be wired to any SoC's
>> ethernet mac.
>>
>> For the port which is set for PHY muxing, do not bring it as a slave
>> interface, just do the phy muxing operation.
>>
>> Do not fail because there's no CPU port (ethernet property) defined when
>> there's only one port defined and it's set for PHY muxing.
>>
>> I don't know if the ethernet mac needs phy-handle defined in this case.
> 
>  From mediatek,mt7530.yaml:
> 
>    Port 5 modes/configurations:
>    1. Port 5 is disabled and isolated: An external phy can interface to the 2nd
>       GMAC of the SOC.
>       In the case of a build-in MT7530 switch, port 5 shares the RGMII bus with 2nd
>       GMAC and an optional external phy. Mind the GPIO/pinctl settings of the SOC!
>    2. Port 5 is muxed to PHY of port 0/4: Port 0/4 interfaces with 2nd GMAC.
>       It is a simple MAC to PHY interface, port 5 needs to be setup for xMII mode
>       and RGMII delay.
>    3. Port 5 is muxed to GMAC5 and can interface to an external phy.
>       Port 5 becomes an extra switch port.
>       Only works on platform where external phy TX<->RX lines are swapped.
>       Like in the Ubiquiti ER-X-SFP.
>    4. Port 5 is muxed to GMAC5 and interfaces with the 2nd GAMC as 2nd CPU port.
>       Currently a 2nd CPU port is not supported by DSA code.
> 
> So this mux has a scope bigger than the switch, it also affects one of
> the SoCs MACs.
> 
> The phy-handle should have all the information you need, but it is
> scattered over multiple locations. It could be in switch port 5, or it
> could be in the SoC GMAC node.
> 
> Although the mux is in the switches address range, could you have a
> tiny driver using that address range. Have this tiny driver export a
> function to set the mux. Both the GMAC and the DSA driver make use of
> the function, which should be enough to force the tiny driver to load
> first. The GMAC and the DSA driver can then look at there phy-handle,
> and determine how the mux should be set. The GMAC should probably do
> that before register_netdev. The DSA driver before it registers the
> switch with the DSA core.
> 
> Does that solve all your ordering issues?

I believe it does.

> 
> By using the phy-handle, you don't need any additional properties, so
> backwards compatibility should not be a problem. You can change driver
> code as much as you want, but ABI like DT is fixed.

Understood, thanks Andrew!

Arınç

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From: "Arınç ÜNAL" <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support"
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thibaut <hacks@slashdirt.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Sean Wang <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Landen Chao <Landen.Chao@mediatek.com>,
	DENG Qingfang <dqfext@gmail.com>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Sergio Paracuellos <sergio.paracuellos@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Move MT7530 phy muxing from DSA to PHY driver
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:28:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a291389-105a-6288-1347-4f02171b0dd0@arinc9.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YyXiswbZfDh8aZHN@lunn.ch>

On 17.09.2022 18:07, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> Where in the address range is the mux register? Officially, PHY
>>> drivers only have access to PHY registers, via MDIO. If the mux
>>> register is in the switch address space, it would be better if the
>>> switch did the mux configuration. An alternative might be to represent
>>> the mux in DT somewhere, and have a mux driver.
>>
>> I don't know this part very well but it's in the register for hw trap
>> modification which, I think, is in the switch address space.
>>
>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/tree/drivers/net/dsa/mt7530.c?id=1f9a6abecf538cc73635f6082677a2f4dc9c89a4#n941
>>
>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/tree/drivers/net/dsa/mt7530.h?id=1f9a6abecf538cc73635f6082677a2f4dc9c89a4#n500
>>
>> Like you said, I don't think we can move away from the DSA driver, and would
>> rather keep the driver do the mux configuration.
>>
>> We could change the check for phy muxing to define the phy muxing bindings
>> in the DSA node instead. If I understand correctly, the mdio address for
>> PHYs is fake, it's for the sole purpose of making the driver check if
>> there's request for phy muxing and which phy to mux. I'm saying this because
>> the MT7530 switch works fine at address 0 while also using phy0 as a slave
>> interface.
>>
>> A property could be introduced on the DSA node for the MT7530 DSA driver:
>>
>>      mdio {
>>          #address-cells = <1>;
>>          #size-cells = <0>;
>>
>>          switch@0 {
>>              compatible = "mediatek,mt7530";
>>              reg = <0>;
>>
>>              reset-gpios = <&pio 33 0>;
>>
>>              core-supply = <&mt6323_vpa_reg>;
>>              io-supply = <&mt6323_vemc3v3_reg>;
>>
>>              mt7530,mux-phy = <&sw0_p0>;
>>
>>              ethernet-ports {
>>                  #address-cells = <1>;
>>                  #size-cells = <0>;
>>
>>                  sw0_p0: port@0 {
>>                      reg = <0>;
>>                  };
>>              };
>>          };
>>      };
>>
>> This would also allow using the phy muxing feature with any ethernet mac.
>> Currently, phy muxing check wants the ethernet mac to be gmac1 of a MediaTek
>> SoC. However, on a standalone MT7530, the switch can be wired to any SoC's
>> ethernet mac.
>>
>> For the port which is set for PHY muxing, do not bring it as a slave
>> interface, just do the phy muxing operation.
>>
>> Do not fail because there's no CPU port (ethernet property) defined when
>> there's only one port defined and it's set for PHY muxing.
>>
>> I don't know if the ethernet mac needs phy-handle defined in this case.
> 
>  From mediatek,mt7530.yaml:
> 
>    Port 5 modes/configurations:
>    1. Port 5 is disabled and isolated: An external phy can interface to the 2nd
>       GMAC of the SOC.
>       In the case of a build-in MT7530 switch, port 5 shares the RGMII bus with 2nd
>       GMAC and an optional external phy. Mind the GPIO/pinctl settings of the SOC!
>    2. Port 5 is muxed to PHY of port 0/4: Port 0/4 interfaces with 2nd GMAC.
>       It is a simple MAC to PHY interface, port 5 needs to be setup for xMII mode
>       and RGMII delay.
>    3. Port 5 is muxed to GMAC5 and can interface to an external phy.
>       Port 5 becomes an extra switch port.
>       Only works on platform where external phy TX<->RX lines are swapped.
>       Like in the Ubiquiti ER-X-SFP.
>    4. Port 5 is muxed to GMAC5 and interfaces with the 2nd GAMC as 2nd CPU port.
>       Currently a 2nd CPU port is not supported by DSA code.
> 
> So this mux has a scope bigger than the switch, it also affects one of
> the SoCs MACs.
> 
> The phy-handle should have all the information you need, but it is
> scattered over multiple locations. It could be in switch port 5, or it
> could be in the SoC GMAC node.
> 
> Although the mux is in the switches address range, could you have a
> tiny driver using that address range. Have this tiny driver export a
> function to set the mux. Both the GMAC and the DSA driver make use of
> the function, which should be enough to force the tiny driver to load
> first. The GMAC and the DSA driver can then look at there phy-handle,
> and determine how the mux should be set. The GMAC should probably do
> that before register_netdev. The DSA driver before it registers the
> switch with the DSA core.
> 
> Does that solve all your ordering issues?

I believe it does.

> 
> By using the phy-handle, you don't need any additional properties, so
> backwards compatibility should not be a problem. You can change driver
> code as much as you want, but ABI like DT is fixed.

Understood, thanks Andrew!

Arınç

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-18 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-14 22:07 Move MT7530 phy muxing from DSA to PHY driver Arınç ÜNAL
2022-09-14 22:07 ` Arınç ÜNAL
2022-09-15  2:38 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-09-15  2:38   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-09-16 15:25   ` Arınç ÜNAL
2022-09-16 15:25     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2022-09-17 15:07     ` Andrew Lunn
2022-09-17 15:07       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-09-18 11:28       ` Arınç ÜNAL [this message]
2022-09-18 11:28         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2022-09-18 22:58         ` Florian Fainelli
2022-09-18 22:58           ` Florian Fainelli
2023-03-26 16:52           ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-26 16:52             ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-27 18:38             ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-27 18:38               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-03-27 21:40               ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-03-27 21:40                 ` Arınç ÜNAL

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