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From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
To: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: thomas.hellstrom@intel.com
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 20/41] drm/i915: Replace priolist rbtree with a skiplist
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:58:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4b5dcbf2-5e48-3049-c4ac-f9ac0a25ad80@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <161176227212.2943.15527894923176928677@build.alporthouse.com>


On 27/01/2021 15:44, Chris Wilson wrote:
> Quoting Chris Wilson (2021-01-27 15:33:05)
>> Quoting Tvrtko Ursulin (2021-01-27 15:10:43)
>>>
>>> On 25/01/2021 14:01, Chris Wilson wrote:
>>>> Replace the priolist rbtree with a skiplist. The crucial difference is
>>>> that walking and removing the first element of a skiplist is O(1), but
>>>
>>> I wasn't (and am not) familiar with them, but wikipedia page says
>>> removal is O(logN) average case to O(N) worst case.
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly O(1) could be ignoring the need to traverse
>>> from top to bottom level and removing the element from all. But since
>>> I915_PRIOLIST_HEIGHT is fixed maybe it is okay to call it O(1).
>>
>> Correct, since we removing the first element, we do not need to do the
>> lgN search and can just move the next[I915_PRIOLIST_HEIGHT] forwards.
>> (Although, I did starting doing the lgN removal for timeslicing as
>> traversing the empty levels were showing up in worst case lock hold
>> times.) But the primary means of removing from the skiplist is as we
>> consume the first request during the dequeue.
>>
>>> I wonder though why this wouldn't mean skip list would be worse for both
>>> lightly loaded and highly-loaded scenarios? Presumably height would need
>>> to be balanced to compensate for that.
>>
>> I think the answer is yes. skiplists uses probablistic balancing so they
>> are only from a bird's eye view as good as a rbtree. If you look at the
>> perf tests, the skiplists are generally faster, but it's close overall.
>>
>> What sold me was lock_stat and that I could remove a few hacky patches
>> trying to hide some of the worst case behaviour of rbtree and how we had
>> frees within the critical submit path.
>>   
>>> In summary I have no idea for what number of in-flight requests would
>>> they be better.
>>>
>>> How about putting this patch aside for now since it doesn't sound it is
>>> critical for deadline scheduling per se?
>>
>> Oh no, we are not going back to the hacky patches like
>> https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/407913/?series=84900&rev=1
>> https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/407903/?series=84900&rev=1
> 
> To be extra clear, the biggest drawback in using deadlines as the sort
> key is that they are very, very sparse in comparison to priorities.
> Where we would typically have only a single priority level for every
> request, with deadlines we typically have a new deadline with every
> request (and it's not until we get into priority bumping or timeslice
> deferring do we start to see the deadlines coalesce). In this situation,
> the lgN list traversal of rbtree during execlists_dequeue() was
> abyssmal, and so as the skiplists give similar lgN insertion but O(1)
> list traversal, the difference is enough to completely negate the
> overhead of having more levels to process. It is a dramatic improvement.

Okay makes sense. The change in key drives the requirement so just 
please mention in the commit message and I'll tackle the skip list 
mechanics in the meantime.

Regards,

Tvrtko
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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-25 14:00 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 01/41] drm/i915/selftests: Check for engine-reset errors in the middle of workarounds Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:00 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 02/41] drm/i915/gt: Move the defer_request waiter active assertion Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:53   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-25 14:00 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 03/41] drm/i915: Replace engine->schedule() with a known request operation Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 15:14   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-25 14:00 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 04/41] drm/i915: Teach the i915_dependency to use a double-lock Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 15:34   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-25 21:37     ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-26  9:40       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 05/41] drm/i915: Restructure priority inheritance Chris Wilson
2021-01-26 11:12   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-26 11:30     ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-26 11:40       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-26 11:55         ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-26 13:15           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-26 13:24             ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-26 13:45               ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 06/41] drm/i915/selftests: Measure set-priority duration Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 07/41] drm/i915/selftests: Exercise priority inheritance around an engine loop Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 08/41] drm/i915: Improve DFS for priority inheritance Chris Wilson
2021-01-26 16:22   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-26 16:26     ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-26 16:42       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-26 16:51         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-26 16:51         ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 09/41] drm/i915/selftests: Exercise relative mmio paths to non-privileged registers Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 10/41] drm/i915/selftests: Exercise cross-process context isolation Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 11/41] drm/i915: Extract request submission from execlists Chris Wilson
2021-01-26 16:28   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 12/41] drm/i915: Extract request rewinding " Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 13/41] drm/i915: Extract request suspension from the execlists Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 14/41] drm/i915: Extract the ability to defer and rerun a request later Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 15/41] drm/i915: Fix the iterative dfs for defering requests Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 16/41] drm/i915: Move common active lists from engine to i915_scheduler Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 17/41] drm/i915: Move scheduler queue Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 18/41] drm/i915: Move tasklet from execlists to sched Chris Wilson
2021-01-27 14:10   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-27 14:24     ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 19/41] drm/i915/gt: Show scheduler queues when dumping state Chris Wilson
2021-01-27 14:13   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-27 14:35     ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-27 14:50       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-27 14:55         ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 20/41] drm/i915: Replace priolist rbtree with a skiplist Chris Wilson
2021-01-27 15:10   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-27 15:33     ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-27 15:44       ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-27 15:58         ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2021-01-28  9:50           ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-28 15:56   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-28 16:26     ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-28 16:42       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-28 22:20         ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-28 22:44         ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-29  9:24           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-29  9:37       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-29 10:26         ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-28 22:56   ` Matthew Brost
2021-01-29 10:30     ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-29 17:01       ` Matthew Brost
2021-01-29 10:22   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 21/41] drm/i915: Wrap cmpxchg64 with try_cmpxchg64() helper Chris Wilson
2021-01-27 15:28   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 22/41] drm/i915: Fair low-latency scheduling Chris Wilson
2021-01-28 11:35   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-28 12:32     ` Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 23/41] drm/i915/gt: Specify a deadline for the heartbeat Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 24/41] drm/i915: Extend the priority boosting for the display with a deadline Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 25/41] drm/i915/gt: Support virtual engine queues Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 26/41] drm/i915: Move saturated workload detection back to the context Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 27/41] drm/i915: Bump default timeslicing quantum to 5ms Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 28/41] drm/i915/gt: Wrap intel_timeline.has_initial_breadcrumb Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 29/41] drm/i915/gt: Track timeline GGTT offset separately from subpage offset Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 30/41] drm/i915/gt: Add timeline "mode" Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 31/41] drm/i915/gt: Use indices for writing into relative timelines Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 32/41] drm/i915/selftests: Exercise relative timeline modes Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 33/41] drm/i915/gt: Use ppHWSP for unshared non-semaphore related timelines Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 34/41] Restore "drm/i915: drop engine_pin/unpin_breadcrumbs_irq" Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 35/41] drm/i915/gt: Couple tasklet scheduling for all CS interrupts Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 36/41] drm/i915/gt: Support creation of 'internal' rings Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 37/41] drm/i915/gt: Use client timeline address for seqno writes Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 38/41] drm/i915/gt: Infrastructure for ring scheduling Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 39/41] drm/i915/gt: Implement ring scheduler for gen4-7 Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 40/41] drm/i915/gt: Enable ring scheduling for gen5-7 Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:01 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 41/41] drm/i915: Support secure dispatch on gen6/gen7 Chris Wilson
2021-01-25 14:40 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 01/41] drm/i915/selftests: Check for engine-reset errors in the middle of workarounds Tvrtko Ursulin
2021-01-25 17:08 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for series starting with [01/41] " Patchwork
2021-01-25 17:10 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2021-01-25 17:38 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2021-01-25 22:45 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure " Patchwork

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