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From: Dmitry Safonov <dsafonov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	<x86@kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk@man7.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 4/5] x86/mm: check in_compat_syscall() instead TIF_ADDR32 for mmap(MAP_32BIT)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:56:31 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4f802f8b-07a6-f8cd-71fc-943e40714d1b@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1703131446410.3558@nanos>

On 03/13/2017 04:47 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
>> On 03/13/2017 12:39 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Mar 2017, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
>>>
>>>> Result of mmap() calls with MAP_32BIT flag at this moment depends
>>>> on thread flag TIF_ADDR32, which is set during exec() for 32-bit apps.
>>>> It's broken as the behavior of mmap() shouldn't depend on exec-ed
>>>> application's bitness. Instead, it should check the bitness of mmap()
>>>> syscall.
>>>> How it worked before:
>>>> o for 32-bit compatible binaries it is completely ignored. Which was
>>>> fine when there were one mmap_base, computed for 32-bit syscalls.
>>>> After introducing mmap_compat_base 64-bit syscalls do use computed
>>>> for 64-bit syscalls mmap_base, which means that we can allocate 64-bit
>>>> address with 64-bit syscall in application launched from 32-bit
>>>> compatible binary. And ignoring this flag is not expected behavior.
>>>
>>> Well, the real question here is, whether we should allow 32bit applications
>>> to obtain 64bit mappings at all. We can very well force 32bit applications
>>> into the 4GB address space as it was before your mmap base splitup and be
>>> done with it.
>>
>> Hmm, yes, we could restrict 32bit applications to 32bit mappings only.
>> But the approach which I tried to follow in the patches set, it was do
>> not base the logic on the bitness of launched applications
>> (native/compat) - only base on bitness of the performing syscall.
>> The idea was suggested by Andy and I made mmap() logic here independent
>> from original application's bitness.
>>
>> It also seems to me simpler:
>> if 32-bit application wants to allocate 64-bit mapping, it should
>> long-jump with 64-bit segment descriptor and do `syscall` instruction
>> for 64-bit syscall entry path. So, in my point of view after this dance
>> the application does not differ much from native 64-bit binary and can
>> have 64-bit address mapping.
>
> Works for me, but it lacks documentation .....

Sure, could you recommend a better place for it?
Should it be in-code comment in x86 mmap() code or Documentation/*
change or a patch to man-pages?

CC'ing Michael.


-- 
              Dmitry

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From: Dmitry Safonov <dsafonov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, 0x7f454c46@gmail.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk@man7.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 4/5] x86/mm: check in_compat_syscall() instead TIF_ADDR32 for mmap(MAP_32BIT)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:56:31 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4f802f8b-07a6-f8cd-71fc-943e40714d1b@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1703131446410.3558@nanos>

On 03/13/2017 04:47 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
>> On 03/13/2017 12:39 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Mar 2017, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
>>>
>>>> Result of mmap() calls with MAP_32BIT flag at this moment depends
>>>> on thread flag TIF_ADDR32, which is set during exec() for 32-bit apps.
>>>> It's broken as the behavior of mmap() shouldn't depend on exec-ed
>>>> application's bitness. Instead, it should check the bitness of mmap()
>>>> syscall.
>>>> How it worked before:
>>>> o for 32-bit compatible binaries it is completely ignored. Which was
>>>> fine when there were one mmap_base, computed for 32-bit syscalls.
>>>> After introducing mmap_compat_base 64-bit syscalls do use computed
>>>> for 64-bit syscalls mmap_base, which means that we can allocate 64-bit
>>>> address with 64-bit syscall in application launched from 32-bit
>>>> compatible binary. And ignoring this flag is not expected behavior.
>>>
>>> Well, the real question here is, whether we should allow 32bit applications
>>> to obtain 64bit mappings at all. We can very well force 32bit applications
>>> into the 4GB address space as it was before your mmap base splitup and be
>>> done with it.
>>
>> Hmm, yes, we could restrict 32bit applications to 32bit mappings only.
>> But the approach which I tried to follow in the patches set, it was do
>> not base the logic on the bitness of launched applications
>> (native/compat) - only base on bitness of the performing syscall.
>> The idea was suggested by Andy and I made mmap() logic here independent
>> from original application's bitness.
>>
>> It also seems to me simpler:
>> if 32-bit application wants to allocate 64-bit mapping, it should
>> long-jump with 64-bit segment descriptor and do `syscall` instruction
>> for 64-bit syscall entry path. So, in my point of view after this dance
>> the application does not differ much from native 64-bit binary and can
>> have 64-bit address mapping.
>
> Works for me, but it lacks documentation .....

Sure, could you recommend a better place for it?
Should it be in-code comment in x86 mmap() code or Documentation/*
change or a patch to man-pages?

CC'ing Michael.


-- 
              Dmitry

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-13 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-06 14:17 [PATCHv6 0/5] Fix compatible mmap() return pointer over 4Gb Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-06 14:17 ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-06 14:17 ` [PATCHv6 1/5] x86/mm: introduce arch_rnd() to compute 32/64 mmap rnd Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-06 14:17   ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-13 14:03   ` [tip:x86/mm] x86/mm: Introduce arch_rnd() to compute 32/64 mmap random base tip-bot for Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-06 14:17 ` [PATCHv6 2/5] x86/mm: add task_size parameter to mmap_base() Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-06 14:17   ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-13 14:04   ` [tip:x86/mm] x86/mm: Add " tip-bot for Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-06 14:17 ` [PATCHv6 3/5] x86/mm: introduce mmap_compat_base for 32-bit mmap() Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-06 14:17   ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-13 14:04   ` [tip:x86/mm] x86/mm: Introduce mmap_compat_base() " tip-bot for Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-14  1:30   ` [lkp-robot] [x86/mm] 0d708eaade: libhugetlbfs.32bit.unlinked_fd.fail kernel test robot
2017-03-14  1:30     ` kernel test robot
2017-03-14  1:30     ` kernel test robot
2017-03-06 14:17 ` [PATCHv6 4/5] x86/mm: check in_compat_syscall() instead TIF_ADDR32 for mmap(MAP_32BIT) Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-06 14:17   ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-13  9:39   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-13  9:39     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-13  9:56     ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-13  9:56       ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-13 13:47       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-13 13:47         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-13 13:56         ` Dmitry Safonov [this message]
2017-03-13 13:56           ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-13 14:03           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-13 14:03             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-13 14:17             ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-13 14:17               ` Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-13 15:29         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-13 15:29           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-13 14:05   ` [tip:x86/mm] x86/mm: Make mmap(MAP_32BIT) work correctly tip-bot for Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-06 14:17 ` [PATCHv6 5/5] selftests/x86: add test for 32-bit mmap() return addr Dmitry Safonov
2017-03-06 14:17   ` Dmitry Safonov

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