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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Richard Davies <richard@arachsys.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Windows slow boot: contractor wanted
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:00:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50334E13.8020100@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120820135656.GA16676@alpha.arachsys.com>

On 08/20/2012 04:56 PM, Richard Davies wrote:

> We're running host kernel 3.5.1 and qemu-kvm 1.1.1.
> 
> I hadn't though about it, but I agree this is related to cpu overcommit. The
> slow boots are intermittent (and infrequent) with cpu overcommit whereas I
> don't think it occurs without cpu overcommit.
> 
> In addition, if there is a slow boot ongoing, and you kill some other VMs to
> reduce cpu overcommit then this will sometimes speed it up.
> 
> I guess the question is why even with overcommit most boots are fine, but
> some small fraction then go slow?

Could be a bug.  The scheduler and the spin-loop handling code fight
each other instead of working well.

Please provide snapshots of 'perf top' while a slow boot is in progress.

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error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Richard Davies <richard@arachsys.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Windows slow boot: contractor wanted
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:00:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50334E13.8020100@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120820135656.GA16676@alpha.arachsys.com>

On 08/20/2012 04:56 PM, Richard Davies wrote:

> We're running host kernel 3.5.1 and qemu-kvm 1.1.1.
> 
> I hadn't though about it, but I agree this is related to cpu overcommit. The
> slow boots are intermittent (and infrequent) with cpu overcommit whereas I
> don't think it occurs without cpu overcommit.
> 
> In addition, if there is a slow boot ongoing, and you kill some other VMs to
> reduce cpu overcommit then this will sometimes speed it up.
> 
> I guess the question is why even with overcommit most boots are fine, but
> some small fraction then go slow?

Could be a bug.  The scheduler and the spin-loop handling code fight
each other instead of working well.

Please provide snapshots of 'perf top' while a slow boot is in progress.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-21  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-16 10:47 Windows slow boot: contractor wanted Richard Davies
2012-08-16 10:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-16 11:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-16 11:39   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-17 12:36   ` Richard Davies
2012-08-17 12:36     ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-17 13:02     ` Robert Vineyard
2012-08-17 13:02       ` [Qemu-devel] " Robert Vineyard
2012-08-18 14:44       ` Richard Davies
2012-08-18 14:44         ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-19  5:02     ` Brian Jackson
2012-08-19  5:02       ` [Qemu-devel] " Brian Jackson
2012-08-20  8:16       ` Richard Davies
2012-08-20  8:16         ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-19  8:40     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-19  8:40       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-19  8:51       ` Richard Davies
2012-08-19  8:51         ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-19 14:04     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-19 14:04       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-20 13:56       ` Richard Davies
2012-08-20 13:56         ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-21  9:00         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-08-21  9:00           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-21 15:21           ` Richard Davies
2012-08-21 15:21             ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-21 15:39             ` Troy Benjegerdes
2012-08-21 15:39               ` Troy Benjegerdes
2012-08-22  9:08             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-22  9:08               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-22 12:40               ` Richard Davies
2012-08-22 12:40                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-22 12:44                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-22 12:44                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-22 14:41                   ` Richard Davies
2012-08-22 14:41                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-22 14:53                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-22 14:53                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-22 15:26                       ` Richard Davies
2012-08-22 15:26                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-22 17:22                       ` Troy Benjegerdes
2012-08-22 17:22                         ` Troy Benjegerdes
2012-08-25 17:51                         ` Richard Davies
2012-08-25 17:51                           ` Richard Davies
2012-08-22 15:21                     ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-22 15:21                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2012-08-22 15:34                       ` Richard Davies
2012-08-22 15:34                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-25 17:45                       ` Richard Davies
2012-08-25 17:45                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-08-25 18:11                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-25 18:11                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2012-08-26 10:58                           ` Richard Davies
2012-08-26 10:58                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-09-06  9:20                             ` Richard Davies
2012-09-06  9:20                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-09-12 10:56                               ` Windows VM slow boot Richard Davies
2012-09-12 10:56                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-09-12 10:56                                 ` Richard Davies
2012-09-12 12:25                                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-12 12:25                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-12 12:25                                   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-12 16:46                                   ` Richard Davies
2012-09-12 16:46                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-09-12 16:46                                     ` Richard Davies
2012-09-13  9:50                                     ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-13  9:50                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-13  9:50                                       ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-13 19:47                                     ` [PATCH 1/2] Revert "mm: have order > 0 compaction start near a pageblock with free pages" Rik van Riel
2012-09-13 19:47                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2012-09-13 19:47                                       ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-13 19:48                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] make the compaction "skip ahead" logic robust Rik van Riel
2012-09-13 19:48                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2012-09-13 19:48                                       ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-13 19:54                                       ` [PATCH -v2 " Rik van Riel
2012-09-13 19:54                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2012-09-13 19:54                                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-15 15:55                                         ` Richard Davies
2012-09-15 15:55                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-09-15 15:55                                           ` Richard Davies
2012-09-16 19:12                                           ` Richard Davies
2012-09-16 19:12                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-09-17 12:26                                           ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-17 12:26                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-18  8:14                                             ` Richard Davies
2012-09-18  8:14                                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-09-18 11:21                                               ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-18 11:21                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-18 11:21                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-18 17:58                                                 ` Richard Davies
2012-09-18 17:58                                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Davies
2012-09-17 13:50                                           ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-17 13:50                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2012-09-17 14:07                                             ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-17 14:07                                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-17 14:07                                               ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-16 14:10 ` Windows slow boot: contractor wanted Benoît Canet
2012-08-16 14:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " Benoît Canet
2012-08-16 15:53 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2012-09-18 15:12 ` Windows slow boot Michael Tokarev
2012-09-18 15:12   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Tokarev

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