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From: Tim Bird <tim.bird-mEdOJwZ7QcZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] ARM: uncompress.h multi-platform enablement
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:48:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <506307A0.7010701@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120926104421.GA7040-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>

On 09/26/2012 03:44 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:38:36AM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Tuesday 25 September 2012, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>
>>> Tegra's uncompress and debug-macro.S communicate to each-other. Hence,
>>> we can't be left without uncompress.h in a multi-platform enabled kernel,
>>> or we'll lose features. This series allows uncompress.h to be used in a
>>> multi-platform kernel, restores the mvebu uncompress.h, and finally moves
>>> the Tegra debug macros into the common location. The series as mainly an
>>> RFC due to the outstanding question of where to put Tegra's <mach/iomap.h>
>>> in the final patch.
>>
>>
>> To follow up on the IRC discussion we had yesterday leading to this patch
>> set, I had another idea of how to handle the same: Since the decompressor
>> code is actually fairly separate from the kernel, we could also build
>> multiple versions of it, and link in the same compressed vmlinux.
> 
> That rubbishes the idea of a single kernel though, which is to give
> distros a single kernel image that they can boot on different ARM
> platforms.
> 
> They want a single kernel binary that works everywhere, not one which
> they need to select the right binary to work on platform X.  Yes, the
> _internal_ uncompressed bulk may be the same, but it would require
> distros to carry around N different kernel images for N different
> platforms.

Will those of us not interested in a single kernel binary
that works everywhere be able to configure an ARM kernel image
without a lot of bloat?
 -- Tim

=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Workgroup of the Linux Foundation
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Network Entertainment
=============================

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From: tim.bird@am.sony.com (Tim Bird)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/3] ARM: uncompress.h multi-platform enablement
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:48:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <506307A0.7010701@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120926104421.GA7040@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 09/26/2012 03:44 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:38:36AM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Tuesday 25 September 2012, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>
>>>
>>> Tegra's uncompress and debug-macro.S communicate to each-other. Hence,
>>> we can't be left without uncompress.h in a multi-platform enabled kernel,
>>> or we'll lose features. This series allows uncompress.h to be used in a
>>> multi-platform kernel, restores the mvebu uncompress.h, and finally moves
>>> the Tegra debug macros into the common location. The series as mainly an
>>> RFC due to the outstanding question of where to put Tegra's <mach/iomap.h>
>>> in the final patch.
>>
>>
>> To follow up on the IRC discussion we had yesterday leading to this patch
>> set, I had another idea of how to handle the same: Since the decompressor
>> code is actually fairly separate from the kernel, we could also build
>> multiple versions of it, and link in the same compressed vmlinux.
> 
> That rubbishes the idea of a single kernel though, which is to give
> distros a single kernel image that they can boot on different ARM
> platforms.
> 
> They want a single kernel binary that works everywhere, not one which
> they need to select the right binary to work on platform X.  Yes, the
> _internal_ uncompressed bulk may be the same, but it would require
> distros to carry around N different kernel images for N different
> platforms.

Will those of us not interested in a single kernel binary
that works everywhere be able to configure an ARM kernel image
without a lot of bloat?
 -- Tim

=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Workgroup of the Linux Foundation
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Network Entertainment
=============================

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-26 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-25 22:46 [RFC PATCH 0/3] ARM: uncompress.h multi-platform enablement Stephen Warren
2012-09-25 22:46 ` Stephen Warren
     [not found] ` <1348613212-21897-1-git-send-email-swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-25 22:46   ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] ARM: move ICEDCC uncompress.h to common location Stephen Warren
2012-09-25 22:46     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]     ` <1348613212-21897-2-git-send-email-swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-26 21:56       ` Domenico Andreoli
2012-09-26 21:56         ` Domenico Andreoli
2012-09-27  5:19         ` Stephen Warren
2012-09-27  5:19           ` Stephen Warren
2012-09-25 22:46   ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] ARM: mvebu: restore uncompress.h Stephen Warren
2012-09-25 22:46     ` Stephen Warren
2012-09-25 22:46   ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] ARM: tegra: move debug macros to include/debug Stephen Warren
2012-09-25 22:46     ` Stephen Warren
2012-09-26 10:38   ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] ARM: uncompress.h multi-platform enablement Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-26 10:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <201209261038.36223.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-26 10:44       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-26 10:44         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]         ` <20120926104421.GA7040-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-26 12:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-26 12:05             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <201209261205.01351.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-26 13:10               ` Domenico Andreoli
2012-09-26 13:10                 ` Domenico Andreoli
2012-09-26 13:48           ` Tim Bird [this message]
2012-09-26 13:48             ` Tim Bird
     [not found]             ` <506307A0.7010701-mEdOJwZ7QcZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-26 14:17               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-26 14:17                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                 ` <201209261417.18883.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-26 14:48                   ` Tim Bird
2012-09-26 14:48                     ` Tim Bird
     [not found]                     ` <506315A6.3090300-mEdOJwZ7QcZBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-26 14:49                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-26 14:49                         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                         ` <201209261449.48468.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-26 15:10                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-26 15:10                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                             ` <20120926151023.GC30938-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-26 15:34                               ` Stephen Warren
2012-09-26 15:34                                 ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                 ` <50632096.7080208-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-28  3:53                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-28  3:53                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-27  5:37 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-27  5:37   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD

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