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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Christian Ruppert <christian.ruppert@abilis.com>,
	Patrice CHOTARD <patrice.chotard@st.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	Sascha Leuenberger <sascha.leuenberger@abilis.com>,
	Pierrick Hascoet <pierrick.hascoet@abilis.com>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org" 
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Make non-linear GPIO ranges accesible from gpiolib
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:39:23 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51C9B9AB.2010403@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdZQ=G=K6g25gwGKfS1dCrDS35XepaOs38N-ymEuR0+x=g@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/25/2013 09:28 AM, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org> wrote:
> 
>> And finally, I don't really like using pin groups for the purpose of
>> defining these mappings, since I intended them to purely represent the
>> mapping from register fields to the set of affected pins. However, I can
>> see an argument for doing this, since the pin groups are in fact still
>> representing /some/ aspect of the pinctrl internal HW.
> 
> The groups concept was part of the first pinctrl commit
> 2744e8afb3b76343e7eb8197e8b3e085036010a5
> and there the intention was clearly just to define a discrete
> set of pins.
> 
> And some drivers use it like this still, with no connection to
> physical registers, i.MX come to mind.
> 
> But I do seem to recall some endless discussions about this,
> I think we need to agree to disagree.

But the whole point of a subsystem is to provide clear common semantics
across all the different drivers that comprise it. IMHO, it's a great
failing of pinctrl that it doesn't clearly define its data model at all,
and just leaves individual driver authors to use groups in whatever
random fashion they want. We really should have different entries in the
pinctrl data model for these different concepts (real HW groups, and
logical/virtual/SW groups) since they're entirely different things with
different semantics.

Perhaps it's simplest if I just step out of pinctrl and let it exist as
it is.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-25 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 200+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-10 15:45 [PATCH 1/2] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Christian Ruppert
2013-04-10 15:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-04-17 15:13   ` Linus Walleij
2013-04-17 15:13     ` Linus Walleij
2013-04-17 18:37   ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-17 14:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Linus Walleij
2013-04-17 14:48   ` Linus Walleij
2013-04-17 18:32 ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-18  9:03   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-04-26  7:47     ` Linus Walleij
2013-04-26  7:47       ` Linus Walleij
2013-04-29 16:17       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-04-29 16:17         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-02 18:49         ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-02 18:49           ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-03 18:03           ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-03 18:03             ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-08 16:41             ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-08 16:41               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-08 20:01               ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-08 20:01                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-10  8:25                 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-10  8:25                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-14 12:29                   ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-14 12:29                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-15  9:41                     ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-15  9:41                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-20  8:03                       ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-20  8:03                         ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-22  9:49                         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-22  9:49                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-12 16:44                           ` [RFC] Allow GPIO ranges based on pinctl pin groups Christian Ruppert
2013-06-13  9:00                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13  9:00                               ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 12:55                               ` [PATCH 1/2] Add pin list based GPIO ranges Christian Ruppert
2013-06-13 18:30                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 18:30                                   ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-14  7:17                                 ` Patrice CHOTARD
2013-06-14  7:17                                   ` Patrice CHOTARD
2013-06-14  8:24                                   ` [PATCH] Fix comment on pinctrl_gpio_range.pin_base Christian Ruppert
2013-06-16 10:19                                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 10:19                                       ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 12:55                               ` [PATCH 2/2] Make non-linear GPIO ranges accesible from gpiolib Christian Ruppert
2013-06-13 18:36                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 18:36                                   ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 21:38                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-14  9:12                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 18:10                                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-19 18:27                                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-20 11:57                                         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-21 21:17                                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 11:59                                             ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-25 15:59                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 14:27                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 14:27                                               ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:19                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 15:19                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 14:32                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 14:32                                               ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:22                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 15:22                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 14:56                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 14:56                                               ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:31                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 15:31                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 15:47                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:47                                                   ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:28                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:28                                               ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:39                                               ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-06-25 15:39                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 15:53                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:53                                                   ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-17 16:03                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04                                     ` [PATCH 1/4] " Christian Ruppert
2013-06-18  8:09                                       ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-18  8:09                                         ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-18  9:25                                         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-18  9:25                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-18  9:29                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 12:03                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-19 12:03                                               ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-19 18:15                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-19 18:15                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-26 11:42                                                 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-26 11:42                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-26 17:33                                                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-26 17:33                                                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-19 22:27                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-26 11:46                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-26 17:34                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-18  9:29                                           ` [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 22:35                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-26 11:50                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-26 17:40                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-05  9:49                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-05 18:40                                                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-08 13:02                                                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-10 19:27                                                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-16  8:47                                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-16 16:04                                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-18 16:07                                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-18 19:54                                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-26  9:42                                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-26 16:05                                                                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-29 22:35                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-08-05 11:51                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-08-05 11:51                                                 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-08-14 16:53                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-08-21 15:57                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-08-22 20:10                                                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-28 14:47                                                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-08 12:21                                                         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-08 12:25                                                           ` [PATCH 01/03] Make non-linear GPIO ranges accesible from gpiolib Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 11:58                                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-09 13:28                                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 14:01                                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-10 20:49                                                                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-11  7:53                                                                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-15 13:36                                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-15 13:37                                                                     ` [PATCH V2] " Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 11:19                                                                       ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-16 12:56                                                                         ` [PATCH] Add a short note on pinctrl_get_group_pins to pinctrl.txt Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 13:36                                                                           ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-10 20:47                                                               ` [PATCH 01/03] Make non-linear GPIO ranges accesible from gpiolib Stephen Warren
2013-10-08 12:25                                                           ` [PATCH 02/03] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 12:30                                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-15 13:39                                                               ` [PATCH V2] " Christian Ruppert
2013-10-15 13:39                                                                 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 11:25                                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-08 12:25                                                           ` [PATCH 03/03] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 12:19                                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-15 13:45                                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 11:29                                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-16 12:58                                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-24 16:23                                                                     ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-25 21:44                                                                       ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-25  3:27                                                             ` Kumar Gala
2013-08-28 18:49                                                     ` [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Linus Walleij
2013-08-29  7:35                                                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-08-29  8:24                                                         ` Linus Walleij
2013-08-30  8:19                                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-18  9:29                                           ` [PATCH 3/4] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 22:37                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-18  9:29                                           ` [PATCH 4/4] Add Abilis Systems Sarl to device tree vendor prefixes Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04                                     ` [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04                                     ` [PATCH 3/4] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04                                     ` [PATCH 4/4] Add Abilis Systems Sarl to device tree vendor prefixes Christian Ruppert
2013-05-16  0:12                   ` [PATCH 1/2] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Stephen Warren
2013-05-16  0:12                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-20  8:10                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-20  8:10                       ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-22 14:28                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-22 14:28                         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-23  7:43                         ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-05-23  7:43                           ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-05-24 11:50                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-24 11:50                             ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-26 15:49                             ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-05-26 15:49                               ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-03 12:30                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-03 12:30                                 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-05  1:44                                 ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-05  1:44                                   ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-06 14:11                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-06 14:11                                     ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-06 14:32                                     ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-06 14:32                                       ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-06 15:30                                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-06 15:30                                         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07  0:00                                         ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-07  0:00                                           ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-07 11:32                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07 11:32                                             ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07 14:57                                             ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-07 14:57                                               ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-07 19:18                                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-07 19:18                                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-08  8:31                                           ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-08  8:31                                             ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-09  2:47                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-09  2:47                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-11  7:27                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-11  7:27                                             ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-16 11:11                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-16 11:11                                               ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-29 12:21                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-29 12:21                               ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-03  9:42                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-03  9:42                                 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07 11:36                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-07 11:36                                   ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-07 13:34                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07 13:34                                     ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-24  9:20                         ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-24  9:20                           ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-24 12:03                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-24 12:03                             ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-02 18:52     ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-02 18:52       ` Stephen Warren

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