* DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com)
@ 2013-07-09 13:11 Devyn Collier Johnson
2013-07-09 13:42 ` Mateusz Viste
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From: Devyn Collier Johnson @ 2013-07-09 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-msdos
Aloha DOSEMU Users!
I want to info everyone that DOSEMU has been released and is no longer
abandonware. Feel free to contribute to the new DOSEMU team and help
DOSEMU compete with DOSbox.
https://launchpad.net/dosemu-reborn
Mahalo,
Devyn Collier Johnson
DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com
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* Re: DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com)
2013-07-09 13:11 DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com) Devyn Collier Johnson
@ 2013-07-09 13:42 ` Mateusz Viste
2013-07-09 20:25 ` Stas Sergeev
2013-07-09 16:30 ` Frantisek Hanzlik
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From: Mateusz Viste @ 2013-07-09 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-msdos
Hi,
What makes yoou believe that DOSemu is 'abandonware' ?
Looking at the code repository I see a pretty intense activity.
http://sourceforge.net/p/dosemu/code/ci/8a7cad79ae6797ef4f36abea728903a4bc5a4cca/log/?path=
Sure, there was no public release for quite a while, but it's only a
matter of packaging I guess.
Do you have any reasons to believe that forking a new branch of DOSemu
would be more beneficial to the project than contributing to the already
existing code base?
cheers,
Mateusz
On 07/09/2013 03:11 PM, Devyn Collier Johnson wrote:
> Aloha DOSEMU Users!
>
> I want to info everyone that DOSEMU has been released and is no longer
> abandonware. Feel free to contribute to the new DOSEMU team and help
> DOSEMU compete with DOSbox.
>
> https://launchpad.net/dosemu-reborn
>
> Mahalo,
>
> Devyn Collier Johnson
> DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com
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* Re: DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com)
2013-07-09 13:11 DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com) Devyn Collier Johnson
2013-07-09 13:42 ` Mateusz Viste
@ 2013-07-09 16:30 ` Frantisek Hanzlik
2013-07-09 20:14 ` Stas Sergeev
2013-07-10 2:13 ` Bart Oldeman
3 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Frantisek Hanzlik @ 2013-07-09 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devyn Collier Johnson, linux-msdos
Devyn Collier Johnson wrote:
> Aloha DOSEMU Users!
>
> I want to info everyone that DOSEMU has been released and is no longer
> abandonware. Feel free to contribute to the new DOSEMU team and help
> DOSEMU compete with DOSbox.
>
> https://launchpad.net/dosemu-reborn
>
> Mahalo,
>
> Devyn Collier Johnson
> DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com
DOSEMU isn't abandonware, You are perhaps not inform and not keep
track with it. DOSEMU evolves and bugs are solved - You can see
bug tracer. If You want help to further improve it, You can and IMO
will be welcome in its developer team - there is no need and perhaps
no reason fork it.
I remember case of wodim - unfortunate fork of cdrecord. Although
some distros was accepted this fork, wodim *was* (and maybe is still)
abandonware, moreover with lot of bugs and degraded functionality
contrary to original (well maintained) cdrecord. Thus I think, most
of forks are foolish and inefficient dissipation of energy and time.
--
My two cents, cheers,
Franta Hanzlik
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* Re: DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com)
2013-07-09 13:11 DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com) Devyn Collier Johnson
2013-07-09 13:42 ` Mateusz Viste
2013-07-09 16:30 ` Frantisek Hanzlik
@ 2013-07-09 20:14 ` Stas Sergeev
2013-07-10 2:13 ` Bart Oldeman
3 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Stas Sergeev @ 2013-07-09 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devyn Collier Johnson; +Cc: linux-msdos
09.07.2013 17:11, Devyn Collier Johnson пишет:
> Aloha DOSEMU Users!
>
> I want to info everyone that DOSEMU has been released and is no longer
> abandonware. Feel free to contribute to the new DOSEMU team and help
> DOSEMU compete with DOSbox.
>
> https://launchpad.net/dosemu-reborn
Have you had a look into this already?
https://launchpad.net/debian/sid/+source/dosemu/
If you create a fork, you should probably package it
as dosemu-reborn-2.0.tar.gz and not dosemu-2.0.tar.gz
to not create an unnecessary confusion.
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* Re: DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com)
2013-07-09 13:42 ` Mateusz Viste
@ 2013-07-09 20:25 ` Stas Sergeev
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Stas Sergeev @ 2013-07-09 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mateusz Viste; +Cc: linux-msdos
09.07.2013 17:42, Mateusz Viste пишет:
> Hi,
>
> What makes yoou believe that DOSemu is 'abandonware' ?
Wikipedia. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosemu
Well, this mostly is true, because the releases
were not made (enough to call it abandonware),
but there were the unofficial releases to mitigate
the problem; both fedora and debian packages
do exist on the net.
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* Re: DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com)
2013-07-09 13:11 DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com) Devyn Collier Johnson
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2013-07-09 20:14 ` Stas Sergeev
@ 2013-07-10 2:13 ` Bart Oldeman
2013-07-10 6:50 ` Stas Sergeev
2013-07-10 10:16 ` Devyn Collier Johnson
3 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Bart Oldeman @ 2013-07-10 2:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devyn Collier Johnson; +Cc: dosemu
Hi,
I feel I should clear up the confusion a bit, as official DOSEMU maintainer.
Yes, it is true that life has changed quite a bit for me since 2007
and I am now chasing two small children after work which does not
leave as much energy or time to work on DOSEMU. There has however been
some activity, after 1.4.0 in SVN, the 1.4.0.1 patch release in 2008,
and quite a bit of development in git since Stas returned last year.
The distributions now release based on git that we tried to keep in a
stable state (the devel branch in git is allowed to change more).
So, if somebody skilled with more time than me puts in all the effort
to release a new version of DOSEMU I should welcome that.
However, this is not the case here:
1. "dosemu-reborn" is practically the same as dosemu 1.4.0 but with
licensing changes, some formatting changes and adds "#DOSEMU was
reborn by Devyn Collier Johnson" at various places. A "2.0" should be
instead (IMHO) based on git, be heavily tested, and come with a proper
list of user-visible changes (and not a deleted NEWS file).
2. The license was changed from GPLv2-only to GPLv3-only. Sorry, you
cannot do that in a fork. While I personally have no problem with
GPLv3, you would have to ask all copyright holders to make such a
change, or replace all code by those copyright holders (the dosemu
files that say "GPLv2 or later" are the exceptions). (Quite similarly
you cannot fork the Linux kernel under GPLv3 either).
So while I have no problems with people forking, in the way it is done
here I stronly object, and will only confuse people. But I will gladly
pass maintainership to somebody who can release a "DOSEMU 2.0" that
truly deserves that title.
Regards,
Bart Oldeman
On 9 July 2013 09:11, Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Aloha DOSEMU Users!
>
> I want to info everyone that DOSEMU has been released and is no longer
> abandonware. Feel free to contribute to the new DOSEMU team and help DOSEMU
> compete with DOSbox.
>
> https://launchpad.net/dosemu-reborn
>
> Mahalo,
>
> Devyn Collier Johnson
> DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com
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* Re: DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com)
2013-07-10 2:13 ` Bart Oldeman
@ 2013-07-10 6:50 ` Stas Sergeev
2013-07-10 10:16 ` Devyn Collier Johnson
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Stas Sergeev @ 2013-07-10 6:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bart Oldeman; +Cc: dosemu
10.07.2013 06:13, Bart Oldeman пишет:
> The distributions now release based on git that we tried to keep in a
> stable state (the devel branch in git is allowed to change more).
But not the case right now.
"master" appeared to have the nasty regressions (like the
insufficient HLT handlers and more), a nasty bugs (like broken
shift in wolf3d and some other games) and a license-incompatible
code like mame's opl3 ("devel" gets most of that covered already).
I mean, not good for even an unofficial release, but the guys
who do the unofficial releases, likely do not know about that.
If this can't be urgently resolved, dosemu is abandonware. :))
> A "2.0" should be
> instead (IMHO) based on git, be heavily tested, and come with a proper
> list of user-visible changes (and not a deleted NEWS file).
This was supposed to be true, but, for the reasons mentioned
above, I think this is not sufficient for a 2.0.
Do you have any plans to bring "master" in a state where at
least an unofficial (and eventually 2.0) releases are possible?
Otherwise debian or fedora guys will soon import it, if not yet.
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* Re: DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com)
2013-07-10 2:13 ` Bart Oldeman
2013-07-10 6:50 ` Stas Sergeev
@ 2013-07-10 10:16 ` Devyn Collier Johnson
2013-07-10 10:30 ` Stas Sergeev
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Devyn Collier Johnson @ 2013-07-10 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bart Oldeman; +Cc: linux-msdos
I will delete the project.
On 07/09/2013 10:13 PM, Bart Oldeman wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I feel I should clear up the confusion a bit, as official DOSEMU maintainer.
>
> Yes, it is true that life has changed quite a bit for me since 2007
> and I am now chasing two small children after work which does not
> leave as much energy or time to work on DOSEMU. There has however been
> some activity, after 1.4.0 in SVN, the 1.4.0.1 patch release in 2008,
> and quite a bit of development in git since Stas returned last year.
> The distributions now release based on git that we tried to keep in a
> stable state (the devel branch in git is allowed to change more).
>
> So, if somebody skilled with more time than me puts in all the effort
> to release a new version of DOSEMU I should welcome that.
>
> However, this is not the case here:
> 1. "dosemu-reborn" is practically the same as dosemu 1.4.0 but with
> licensing changes, some formatting changes and adds "#DOSEMU was
> reborn by Devyn Collier Johnson" at various places. A "2.0" should be
> instead (IMHO) based on git, be heavily tested, and come with a proper
> list of user-visible changes (and not a deleted NEWS file).
> 2. The license was changed from GPLv2-only to GPLv3-only. Sorry, you
> cannot do that in a fork. While I personally have no problem with
> GPLv3, you would have to ask all copyright holders to make such a
> change, or replace all code by those copyright holders (the dosemu
> files that say "GPLv2 or later" are the exceptions). (Quite similarly
> you cannot fork the Linux kernel under GPLv3 either).
>
> So while I have no problems with people forking, in the way it is done
> here I stronly object, and will only confuse people. But I will gladly
> pass maintainership to somebody who can release a "DOSEMU 2.0" that
> truly deserves that title.
>
> Regards,
> Bart Oldeman
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9 July 2013 09:11, Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Aloha DOSEMU Users!
>>
>> I want to info everyone that DOSEMU has been released and is no longer
>> abandonware. Feel free to contribute to the new DOSEMU team and help DOSEMU
>> compete with DOSbox.
>>
>> https://launchpad.net/dosemu-reborn
>>
>> Mahalo,
>>
>> Devyn Collier Johnson
>> DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com
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* Re: DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com)
2013-07-10 10:16 ` Devyn Collier Johnson
@ 2013-07-10 10:30 ` Stas Sergeev
2013-07-10 11:52 ` DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released Ivan Baldo
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From: Stas Sergeev @ 2013-07-10 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devyn Collier Johnson; +Cc: Bart Oldeman, linux-msdos
10.07.2013 14:16, Devyn Collier Johnson пишет:
> I will delete the project.
You are always welcome to help bringing dosemu
out of the "abandonware" state by the different means
though. No one says that it is in a good shape right now
so there are many ways of doing that.
There are trackers and mail lists to discuss a new
things, post patches.
I guess the only thing people do not like to discuss is a
forks. :)
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* Re: DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released
2013-07-10 10:30 ` Stas Sergeev
@ 2013-07-10 11:52 ` Ivan Baldo
2013-07-11 13:44 ` Resurrect DOSEMU Devyn Collier Johnson
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From: Ivan Baldo @ 2013-07-10 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stas Sergeev; +Cc: Devyn Collier Johnson, Bart Oldeman, linux-msdos
El 10/07/13 07:30, Stas Sergeev escribió:
> 10.07.2013 14:16, Devyn Collier Johnson пишет:
>> I will delete the project.
> You are always welcome to help bringing dosemu
> out of the "abandonware" state by the different means
> though. No one says that it is in a good shape right now
> so there are many ways of doing that.
> There are trackers and mail lists to discuss a new
> things, post patches.
> I guess the only thing people do not like to discuss is a
> forks. :)
>
That's right! Don't throw the towel Devyn! Bart and Stas are cool
guys (together with many others in this mailing list) and they will help
you out getting around knowing the code, guiding you to implement the
improvements you may have in mind.
You may just start by telling what would you think would be good to
implement, etc.
A new stable 1.4.x tarball would be a nice thing though, if
somebody could help with that...
Thanks for not forking it and I hope to see you around!!!
Happy coding!
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* Resurrect DOSEMU
2013-07-10 11:52 ` DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released Ivan Baldo
@ 2013-07-11 13:44 ` Devyn Collier Johnson
2013-07-11 13:56 ` Paul Crawford
2013-07-11 13:58 ` Mateusz Viste
0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Devyn Collier Johnson @ 2013-07-11 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-msdos
DOSEMU Fans:
I removed the package from the DOSEMU_Reborn project. I asked
Launchpad how to delete the whole project, so that project will be
closed sometime soon. I convinced the Wikipedia users to change the
abandonware status to active, so the DOSEMU Wikipedia page now shows
that DOSEMU is active.
I would like to help DOSEMU in some way. I do not know C/C++/C# very
well, so I cannot do too much programming. I was hoping to attract
programmers to my project that could do some programming.
I have some ideas that can help DOSEMU:
1. We should probably try to gather up some programmers to help.
2. I noticed that the SourceForge pages for DOSEMU are old. DOSEMU has
not received any updates in years. Maybe if some of these areas got
updates, that would help.
3. What is we spoke with the DOSbox developers about merging the two
projects? Why have two DOS emulators for Linux? Why have to separate
communities when we can have one large one? Open-source software is
based off of collaboration, so we should merge the to groups and have
collaboration. Competition will not help either of us; it seems to be
killing DOSEMU. Plus, DOSEMU will not last long in my opinion. If we can
convince the DOSbox developers to merge the projects then both emulators
will do better and last longer. If this idea is successful, we should
probably come up with a new name for the merged program/project. I would
suggest PhoenixDOS - two projects disappear and one newer and better one
forms.
Mahalo,
Devyn Collier Johnson
DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com
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* Re: Resurrect DOSEMU
2013-07-11 13:44 ` Resurrect DOSEMU Devyn Collier Johnson
@ 2013-07-11 13:56 ` Paul Crawford
2013-07-11 14:31 ` Frederic Herman
2013-07-11 13:58 ` Mateusz Viste
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Paul Crawford @ 2013-07-11 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devyn Collier Johnson; +Cc: linux-msdos
Dear Devyn,
> 3. What is we spoke with the DOSbox developers about merging the two
> projects? Why have two DOS emulators for Linux? Why have to separate
I am not very sure about how DOSbox is implemented, but I think they
have rather different approaches to the issue of running DOS
applications under alternative operating systems. There is also the
option of booting MS-DOS, etc, in a VMware virtual machine, etc, to add
to the list of options for DOS software.
However, in our case the attraction of dosemu for Linux comes down to
two points:
1) The option for direct hardware access, thus allowing old software to
communicate with old hardware, but under the management of a secure
networked system (e.g. access to NFS drives, remote log-in via SSH, time
keeping accurate using NTP, etc).
2) Good emulation of file system access, so DOS applications can work
with Linux file systems and see them in a reasonably sensible manner
(e.g. all file names mapped to lower case on the Linux side, upper on
DOS side, etc). VMware's shared folders do not work very well in this
aspect (though using Samba you can get something reasonable, but then
with Windows networking, so not really a DOS solution).
These are not generally requirements for running an old DOS game, but
they are exceedingly useful for keeping tried & trusted hardware &
software going where the alternative of a new system involving a
complete re-write may be either impossible (no source code, etc) or
simply impractical.
Regards,
Paul
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* Re: Resurrect DOSEMU
2013-07-11 13:44 ` Resurrect DOSEMU Devyn Collier Johnson
2013-07-11 13:56 ` Paul Crawford
@ 2013-07-11 13:58 ` Mateusz Viste
2013-07-15 10:50 ` Stas Sergeev
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mateusz Viste @ 2013-07-11 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Devyn Collier Johnson; +Cc: linux-msdos
On 07/11/2013 03:44 PM, Devyn Collier Johnson wrote:
> I removed the package from the DOSEMU_Reborn project.
That's cool - it will avoid any further confusion among the (already
sparse) user base.
> I convinced the Wikipedia users to change the
> abandonware status to active, so the DOSEMU Wikipedia page now shows
> that DOSEMU is active.
That's cool too! :)
> I would like to help DOSEMU in some way. I do not know C/C++/C# very
> well, so I cannot do too much programming.
You could test - see the DOSemu bug tracker. It's a tool to report bugs,
propose features.. Feedback is important for development, and testing is
the best way to provide feedback.
> I have some ideas that can help DOSEMU:
> 1. We should probably try to gather up some programmers to help.
good luck with that :)
I don't think programmers can be 'attracted' like, say, bees.
programmers are vicious animals that usually like to do whatever they
like most - if it's coding DOS emulation layers, then I believe they
will find DOSEMU by themselves.
> 3. What is we spoke with the DOSbox developers about merging the two
> projects? Why have two DOS emulators for Linux?
This is probably not such a good idea like it could sound like. DOSBox
and DOSEMU are quite different. DOSBox is targeted to be multiplatform,
while DOSEmu is specific to Linux (and that's one of the reason it's SO
much faster than dosbox). There are probably some areas where both could
meet (like sound emulation, vga stuff maybe?) but the cores are quite
different, so I don't think a merge is possible.
Mateusz
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* Re: Resurrect DOSEMU
2013-07-11 13:56 ` Paul Crawford
@ 2013-07-11 14:31 ` Frederic Herman
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Frederic Herman @ 2013-07-11 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paul Crawford; +Cc: Devyn Collier Johnson, linux-msdos
I am hoping that whatever is decided, that the result is an emulator
that works properly in a 64 bit, particularly AMD, environment. I have
an old reliable accounting package which I rely on, that crashes with op
code errors under the 64 bit environment.
I have given up sometime ago with running it under x86_64,and have
resorted to using another machine with 32 bit hardware and OS just so I
can run the accounting package via a remote ssh session. I have been
using Fedora Linus, but recently tried a Ubuntu linux (64 bit) and have
the same problem.
I think I tried DOSbox, but I remember a show-stopper, maybe lack of
printer support.
DOS emulation is not just for running games. There are legacy business
packages such as the one I use, that require a good emulator. These
packages were typically written in assembly language. In my case,
switching to a modern accounting package is not a just a matter of the
cost of software. The greater cost is the huge amount of time I would
need to spend to manually convert about 10 business general ledgers to a
new accounting package.
Fred
On 07/11/2013 07:56 AM, Paul Crawford wrote:
> Dear Devyn,
>> 3. What is we spoke with the DOSbox developers about merging the two
>> projects? Why have two DOS emulators for Linux? Why have to separate
>
> I am not very sure about how DOSbox is implemented, but I think they
> have rather different approaches to the issue of running DOS
> applications under alternative operating systems. There is also the
> option of booting MS-DOS, etc, in a VMware virtual machine, etc, to add
> to the list of options for DOS software.
>
> However, in our case the attraction of dosemu for Linux comes down to
> two points:
>
> 1) The option for direct hardware access, thus allowing old software to
> communicate with old hardware, but under the management of a secure
> networked system (e.g. access to NFS drives, remote log-in via SSH, time
> keeping accurate using NTP, etc).
>
> 2) Good emulation of file system access, so DOS applications can work
> with Linux file systems and see them in a reasonably sensible manner
> (e.g. all file names mapped to lower case on the Linux side, upper on
> DOS side, etc). VMware's shared folders do not work very well in this
> aspect (though using Samba you can get something reasonable, but then
> with Windows networking, so not really a DOS solution).
>
> These are not generally requirements for running an old DOS game, but
> they are exceedingly useful for keeping tried & trusted hardware &
> software going where the alternative of a new system involving a
> complete re-write may be either impossible (no source code, etc) or
> simply impractical.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
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* Re: Resurrect DOSEMU
2013-07-11 13:58 ` Mateusz Viste
@ 2013-07-15 10:50 ` Stas Sergeev
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Stas Sergeev @ 2013-07-15 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mateusz Viste; +Cc: linux-msdos
11.07.2013 17:58, Mateusz Viste пишет:
>> I convinced the Wikipedia users to change the
>> abandonware status to active, so the DOSEMU Wikipedia page now shows
>> that DOSEMU is active.
> That's cool too! :)
IMHO wiki was fine, and whoever did the release (if ever),
could update it with all the necessary info.
Doesn't matter now though.
>> I have some ideas that can help DOSEMU:
>> 1. We should probably try to gather up some programmers to help.
> good luck with that :)
> I don't think programmers can be 'attracted' like, say, bees.
You can - with money for instance, but there are the other
ways too.
There is probably no good howto about contributing ideas,
wishes and the management, but it is all possible, and not only
with the money.
In any case, I wonder if this guy is even subscribed to this list.
See here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DOSEMU&action=edit§ion=5
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2013-07-09 13:11 DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released (DevynCJohnson@Gmail.com) Devyn Collier Johnson
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2013-07-10 11:52 ` DOSEMU Version 2 has been Released Ivan Baldo
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