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From: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	ronnie sahlberg <ronniesahlberg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:32:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E7FC87.1040207@kamp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51E7F9CB.7050304@redhat.com>

On 18.07.2013 16:20, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 18/07/2013 16:09, Peter Lieven ha scritto:
>> On 18.07.2013 15:52, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> Il 18/07/2013 15:29, Peter Lieven ha scritto:
>>>>>> If the driver would have a better method of writing zeroes than
>>>>>> discard it simply should not set bdi->write_zeroes_w_discard = 1.
>>>>> If the driver had a better method of writing zeroes than discard, it
>>>>> simply should ignore the BDRV_MAY_UNMAP (or BDRV_MAY_DISCARD) flag in
>>>>> its bdrv_write_zeros implementation.
>>>> ok, but this would require an individual patch in every driver, wouldn't
>>>> it.  i am ok with that.
>>> Yes (making the drivers return the flag in the BDI would also require
>>> per-driver patches).
>> we still might need a hint for qemu-img convert that the driver does
>> support
>> writing zeroes by unmap because using write_zeroes in the main loop
>> might result in unaligned requests that the target is not able to unmap.
>> and to avoid writing several blocks twice by first writing all zeroes
>> to the target and then writing all data blocks again I would need to
>> keep the loop
>> at the beginning of qemu-img convert to write zeroes with correct
>> alignment and granularity if the driver supports write_zeroes_w_discard.
> (Mis)alignment and granularity can be handled later.  We can ignore them
> for now.  Later, if we decide the best way to support them is a flag,
> we'll add it.  Let's not put the cart before the horse.
>
> BTW, I expect alignment!=0 to be really, really rare.
To explain my concerns:

I know that my target has internal page size of 15MB. I will check what happens
if I deallocate this 15MB in chunks of lets say 1MB. If the page gets unprovisioned
after the last chunk is unmapped it would be fine :-)

Peter

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-18 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-15 10:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: add discard_zeroes and max_unmap to BlockDriverInfo Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] iscsi: add .bdrv_get_info Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] block/raw: " Peter Lieven
2013-07-19  5:12   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert Peter Lieven
2013-07-17  8:46   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17  9:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:21       ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:27         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 10:31           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:47           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:19             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:45         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:21           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:26             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:25       ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 15:54         ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-17 16:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 16:31             ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-17 17:02               ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:04                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 17:48                   ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 20:00                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18  9:23                     ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-18 10:24                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 10:42                         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-18 10:44                         ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 10:56                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 11:04                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 12:31                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 13:29                                 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 13:52                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 14:09                                     ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 14:20                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 14:32                                         ` Peter Lieven [this message]
2013-07-18 14:35                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 18:43                                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 18:54                                               ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 19:28                                                 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19  5:58                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-19  6:08                                                     ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 13:25                                                       ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-19 13:49                                                         ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 14:00                                                           ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-19 14:02                                                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 13:58                                               ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 13:55                                   ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 14:14                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-12  8:52                                       ` Peter Lieven
2013-09-12  8:55                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-12  9:03                                           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:09                 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18  9:21           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 10:22     ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 10:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16 11:18   ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 11:27     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16 11:40       ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 11:55         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:23           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:28             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:40               ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:50                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:18                   ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:26                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:46                       ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:53                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 15:12                           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 16:53                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:01                           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19  5:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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