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From: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"ronniesahlberg@gmail.com" <ronniesahlberg@gmail.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:21:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84B3CB1E-5D00-49D4-9AAF-DB8E8A5EDB7E@kamp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51E675E6.7050101@redhat.com>



Am 17.07.2013 um 12:45 schrieb Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>:

> Il 17/07/2013 12:21, Peter Lieven ha scritto:
>>>> BTW, Peter and Ronnie: we were assuming that UNMAP with LBPRZ=1 always
>>>> zeroes blocks, but is that true for unaligned operations?
>> Good question, I will pass it to ronnie. My guess is that the command will fail with
>> a check condition if it failed to unmap the data. From what Ronnie sent earlier
>> it should be guaranteed that the blocks are at least zero after the unmap command.
> 
> I'm not so sure about that, SBC says explicitly that a misaligned unmap
> request "may result in unmap operations on fewer LBAs than requested".
> 
> Perhaps it's better to do this:
> 
> - if LBPWS=1, use WRITE SAME(16).  For WRITE SAME it is explicit that
> "if the device server does not deallocate or anchor the LBA, then the
> device server shall perform the specified write operation".  Expose the
> value of LBPRZ in the "discard zeroes" field of BlockDriverInfo.
> 
> - if LBPWS=0, you can still support discard iff LBPU=1 and use UNMAP.
> But if LBPRZ=1 and LBPWS=0, you should not expose the "discard zeroes"
> field of BlockDriverInfo.
> 
>> As for the qemu-img patch this shouldn't matter. It uses always blocks of bdi->max_unmap
>> which should be a multiple of the alignment.
> 
> Also, the remainder itself (which SBC calls "UNMAP GRANULARITY
> ALIGNMENT") may not be 0.  I think the above trick (only exposing LBPRZ
> if you'll use WRITE SAME) will sidestep the problem.  It may also remove
> the need to fall back to has_zero_init=1.

You mean has_zero_init = 0?

What is if the max write same size and max unmap differ?

Peter

> 
> Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-17 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-15 10:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: add discard_zeroes and max_unmap to BlockDriverInfo Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] iscsi: add .bdrv_get_info Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] block/raw: " Peter Lieven
2013-07-19  5:12   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert Peter Lieven
2013-07-17  8:46   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17  9:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:21       ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:27         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 10:31           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:47           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:19             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:45         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:21           ` Peter Lieven [this message]
2013-07-17 14:26             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:25       ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 15:54         ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-17 16:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 16:31             ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-17 17:02               ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:04                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 17:48                   ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 20:00                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18  9:23                     ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-18 10:24                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 10:42                         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-18 10:44                         ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 10:56                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 11:04                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 12:31                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 13:29                                 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 13:52                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 14:09                                     ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 14:20                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 14:32                                         ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 14:35                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 18:43                                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 18:54                                               ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 19:28                                                 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19  5:58                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-19  6:08                                                     ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 13:25                                                       ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-19 13:49                                                         ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 14:00                                                           ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-19 14:02                                                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 13:58                                               ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 13:55                                   ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 14:14                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-12  8:52                                       ` Peter Lieven
2013-09-12  8:55                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-12  9:03                                           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:09                 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18  9:21           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 10:22     ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 10:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16 11:18   ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 11:27     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16 11:40       ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 11:55         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:23           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:28             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:40               ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:50                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:18                   ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:26                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:46                       ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:53                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 15:12                           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 16:53                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:01                           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19  5:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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