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From: Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu, hpa@zytor.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, trenn@suse.de, yinghai@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/21] page_alloc, mem-hotplug: Improve movablecore to {en|dis}able using SRAT.
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:50:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F0A074.403@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130723211119.GW21100@mtj.dyndns.org>

On 07/24/2013 05:11 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 05:04:35PM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 03:59:30PM +0800, Tang Chen wrote:
>> ...
>>> Users can specify "movablecore=acpi" in kernel commandline to enable this
>>> functionality. For those who don't use memory hotplug or who don't want
>>> to lose their NUMA performance, just don't specify anything. The kernel
>>> will work as before.
>>
>> The param name is pretty obscure and why would the user care where
>
> I mean, having movable zone is required for having any decent chance
> of memory hotplug and movable zone implies worse affinity for kernel
> data structures, so there's no point in distinguishing memory hotplug
> enable/disable and this, right?
>

Sorry, I don't quite get this.

By movable zone, do you mean movable node (which has ZONE_MOVABLE only) ?


movablecore boot option was used to specify the size of ZONE_MOVABLE. And
this patch-set aims to arrange ZONE_MOVABLE with SRAT info. So my original
thinking is to reuse movablecore.

Since you said above, I think we have two problems here:
1. Should not let users care about where the hotplug info comes from.
2. Should not distinguish movable node and memory hotplug, since for now,
    to use memory hotplug is to use movable node.

So how about something like "movablenode", just like "quiet" boot option.
If users specify "movablenode", then memblock will reserve hotpluggable
memory, and create movable nodes if any. If users specify nothing, then
the kernel acts as before.

Thanks.

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From: Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu, hpa@zytor.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, trenn@suse.de, yinghai@kernel.org,
	jiang.liu@huawei.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com,
	mgorman@suse.de, minchan@kernel.org, mina86@mina86.com,
	gong.chen@linux.intel.com, vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com,
	lwoodman@redhat.com, riel@redhat.com, jweiner@redhat.com,
	prarit@redhat.com, zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com,
	yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com, x86@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/21] page_alloc, mem-hotplug: Improve movablecore to {en|dis}able using SRAT.
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:50:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F0A074.403@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130723211119.GW21100@mtj.dyndns.org>

On 07/24/2013 05:11 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 05:04:35PM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 03:59:30PM +0800, Tang Chen wrote:
>> ...
>>> Users can specify "movablecore=acpi" in kernel commandline to enable this
>>> functionality. For those who don't use memory hotplug or who don't want
>>> to lose their NUMA performance, just don't specify anything. The kernel
>>> will work as before.
>>
>> The param name is pretty obscure and why would the user care where
>
> I mean, having movable zone is required for having any decent chance
> of memory hotplug and movable zone implies worse affinity for kernel
> data structures, so there's no point in distinguishing memory hotplug
> enable/disable and this, right?
>

Sorry, I don't quite get this.

By movable zone, do you mean movable node (which has ZONE_MOVABLE only) ?


movablecore boot option was used to specify the size of ZONE_MOVABLE. And
this patch-set aims to arrange ZONE_MOVABLE with SRAT info. So my original
thinking is to reuse movablecore.

Since you said above, I think we have two problems here:
1. Should not let users care about where the hotplug info comes from.
2. Should not distinguish movable node and memory hotplug, since for now,
    to use memory hotplug is to use movable node.

So how about something like "movablenode", just like "quiet" boot option.
If users specify "movablenode", then memblock will reserve hotpluggable
memory, and create movable nodes if any. If users specify nothing, then
the kernel acts as before.

Thanks.

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Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-19  7:59 [PATCH 00/21] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 01/21] acpi: Print Hot-Pluggable Field in SRAT Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 18:48   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 18:48     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 19:15     ` Joe Perches
2013-07-23 19:15       ` Joe Perches
2013-07-23 19:20       ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 19:20         ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 19:26         ` Joe Perches
2013-07-23 19:26           ` Joe Perches
2013-07-24  1:46     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24  1:46       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 02/21] memblock, numa: Introduce flag into memblock Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 19:09   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 19:09     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-24  2:53     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24  2:53       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24 15:54       ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-24 15:54         ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25  6:42         ` Tang Chen
2013-07-25  6:42           ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 03/21] x86, acpi, numa, mem-hotplug: Introduce MEMBLK_HOTPLUGGABLE to reserve hotpluggable memory Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 19:19   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 19:19     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-24  2:55     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24  2:55       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 04/21] acpi: Remove "continue" in macro INVALID_TABLE() Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 19:15   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 19:15     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 05/21] acpi: Introduce acpi_invalid_table() to check if a table is invalid Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 06/21] x86, acpi: Split acpi_boot_table_init() into two parts Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 07/21] x86, acpi: Initialize ACPI root table list earlier Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 08/21] x86, acpi: Also initialize signature and length when parsing root table Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 19:45   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 19:45     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25  6:50     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-25  6:50       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 09/21] x86: Make get_ramdisk_{image|size}() global Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 19:56   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 19:56     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-24  3:12     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24  3:12       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 10/21] earlycpio.c: Fix the confusing comment of find_cpio_data() Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 20:02   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 20:02     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-24  3:20     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24  3:20       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 11/21] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 20:09   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 20:09     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-24  3:52     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24  3:52       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24 16:03       ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-24 16:03         ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 12/21] x86, acpi: Try to find if SRAT is overrided earlier Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 20:27   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 20:27     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-24  6:57     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24  6:57       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 13/21] x86, acpi: Try to find SRAT in firmware earlier Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 20:49   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 20:49     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-24 10:12     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24 10:12       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24 15:55       ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-24 15:55         ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 23:26   ` Cody P Schafer
2013-07-23 23:26     ` Cody P Schafer
2013-07-24 10:16     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-24 10:16       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 14/21] x86, acpi, numa: Reserve hotpluggable memory at early time Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 20:55   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 20:55     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 21:32     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 21:32       ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25  2:13       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-25  2:13         ` Tang Chen
2013-07-25 15:17         ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25 15:17           ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-26  3:45           ` Tang Chen
2013-07-26  3:45             ` Tang Chen
2013-07-26 10:26             ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-26 10:26               ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-26 10:27               ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-26 10:27                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-29  2:12               ` Tang Chen
2013-07-29  2:12                 ` Tang Chen
2013-07-29 17:10                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-29 17:10                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 15/21] x86, acpi, numa: Don't reserve memory on nodes the kernel resides in Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 20:59   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 20:59     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25  2:34     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-25  2:34       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 16/21] x86, memblock, mem-hotplug: Free hotpluggable memory reserved by memblock Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 21:00   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 21:00     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25  2:35     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-25  2:35       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 17/21] page_alloc, mem-hotplug: Improve movablecore to {en|dis}able using SRAT Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 21:04   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 21:04     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 21:11     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 21:11       ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25  3:50       ` Tang Chen [this message]
2013-07-25  3:50         ` Tang Chen
2013-07-25 15:09         ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25 15:09           ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-26  3:58           ` Tang Chen
2013-07-26  3:58             ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 18/21] x86, numa: Synchronize nid info in memblock.reserve with numa_meminfo Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 21:25   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 21:25     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25  4:09     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-25  4:09       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-25 15:05       ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25 15:05         ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-26  4:00         ` Tang Chen
2013-07-26  4:00           ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 19/21] x86, numa: Save nid when reserve memory into memblock.reserved[] Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 20/21] x86, numa, acpi, memory-hotplug: Make movablecore=acpi have higher priority Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 21:21   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 21:21     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-19  7:59 ` [PATCH 21/21] doc, page_alloc, acpi, mem-hotplug: Add doc for movablecore=acpi boot option Tang Chen
2013-07-19  7:59   ` Tang Chen
2013-07-23 21:21   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-23 21:21     ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-25  3:53     ` Tang Chen
2013-07-25  3:53       ` Tang Chen
2013-07-22  2:48 ` [PATCH 00/21] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Tang Chen
2013-07-22  2:48   ` Tang Chen

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